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Aritech CS350 Alarm - Low Battery

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  • #32
    altor
    Registered Users Posts: 11,637 ✭✭✭✭altor


    Eglinton wrote: »
    What I would like to know is:
    1) Why is there a battery in the first place when I presume it's also mainsconnected? Back-up?

    The back up battery is there to keep the alarm powered in the event the mains is off.
    Eglinton wrote: »
    2) How long will the battery last from when the low battery message appears?

    The battery is no good any more once this appears. If the electricity was off and this appeared then you would need a good 12 hours charge on the battery for the fault to disappear.

    Eglinton wrote: »
    3) Will the alarm go off when the battery eventually dies?

    In your case if the light has being on a few days then the battery is already dead. If you where to have a power cut while you have this fault on the alarm, then the electricity comes back on the alarm will activate.
    Eglinton wrote: »
    I know nothing about alarms and actually really hate the things but I don't want to have to call the landlord sometime in the middle of the night and be driving my neighbours nuts sometime in the future if it goes off.

    Thanks.

    If the power does go the external bell outside will activate till it runs out of power as the back up battery in the alarm will hold off the bell ringing in the event of a power cut. You need to get your landlord to get the battery replaced to prevent this from happening.

    Hope this helps..

    www.altor.ie



  • #33
    KoolKid
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    +1 to everything Altor said above.
    Another important point to note is this: Leaving a low battery in the panel will eventually bring the panel down. The battery will draw more & more power from the panel. This results in a voltage drop to the powered devices & may result in an activation & the keypad becoming unresponsive.


  • #34
    meercat
    Registered Users Posts: 4,725 ✭✭✭meercat


    agree with altor and koolkid
    make sure battery is replaced asap,the panel will go blank and sounders will activate ,probably at the most inconvenient time and you will be unable to stop them ringing as you have no code and the panel will be blank.get your landlord to call alarm company out and re commission your system as its no use the way it is


  • #35
    Eglinton
    Closed Accounts Posts: 992 ✭✭✭Eglinton


    altor wrote: »
    The back up battery is there to keep the alarm powered in the event the mains is off.



    The battery is no good any more once this appears. If the electricity was off and this appeared then you would need a good 12 hours charge on the battery for the fault to disappear.




    In your case if the light has being on a few days then the battery is already dead. If you where to have a power cut while you have this fault on the alarm, then the electricity comes back on the alarm will activate.



    If the power does go the external bell outside will activate till it runs out of power as the back up battery in the alarm will hold off the bell ringing in the event of a power cut. You need to get your landlord to get the battery replaced to prevent this from happening.

    Hope this helps..
    koolkid wrote: »
    +1 to everything Altor said above.
    Another important point to note is this: Leaving a low battery in the panel will eventually bring the panel down. The battery will draw more & more power from the panel. This results in a voltage drop to the powered devices & may result in an activation & the keypad becoming unresponsive.
    meercat wrote: »
    agree with altor and koolkid
    make sure battery is replaced asap,the panel will go blank and sounders will activate ,probably at the most inconvenient time and you will be unable to stop them ringing as you have no code and the panel will be blank.get your landlord to call alarm company out and re commission your system as its no use the way it is


    Thanks guys. Plenty of great advice. Battery has been replaced and code sorted.


  • #36
    dinefwr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8 ✭dinefwr


    The manual can be downloaded online from http://ukpanels.com


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  • #37
    branners69
    Registered Users Posts: 2,695 ✭✭✭branners69


    Eglinton wrote: »
    Thanks guys. Plenty of great advice. Battery has been replaced and code sorted.

    I have the same message, any idea how much it cost to replace?

    Is it an easy job that I could do myself?


  • #38
    KoolKid
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    A battery will cost between €10- €20 from any wholesalers.
    Going to retailers expect to pay upto €40
    Alarms company's will charge anywhere between €60 - €120 for a call out & service.
    Replaceing the battery is eay enough, but only procede if you are comfortable doing it.

    To Replace Aritech CS350 Battery
    • Turn off the mains power from the fuseboard.
    • Remove the lid of the main control panel by removing the 2 screws located at the left & right hand side.
    • Disconnect the 2 leads from the battery.
    • Connect the leads to the new battery observing to polarity. Red > Red (+) Black to Black or Blue (-)
    • Replace the lid & screw closed.
    • Reapply the mains power at the fuse board.

    Note when you remove the mains power & battery the external siren will sound. After you reapply the power disarming with your code will silence all bells.


  • #39
    branners69
    Registered Users Posts: 2,695 ✭✭✭branners69


    Thanks koolkid for the detailed reply.

    I might have a go at it during the week!


  • #40
    KoolKid
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    Your welcome.
    Any problems give me a shout.


  • #41
    altor
    Registered Users Posts: 11,637 ✭✭✭✭altor


    branners69 wrote: »
    Thanks koolkid for the detailed reply.

    I might have a go at it during the week!

    + 1 to what koolkid said, just to add the replacement battery needed for the CS350 is a 12 volt 2.8 Ah battery. It will take a couple of minutes for the low battery message to go once you install the new one.

    Any problems, let us know.

    www.altor.ie



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  • #42
    Raphfrk
    Registered Users Posts: 3 ✭Raphfrk


    altor wrote: »
    Hi BostonB,
    If the panel is eng locked, it can be unlocked by replacing the chip in the panel. What this does is bring the panel back to factory settings allowing a new customer and eng code to be set up on the system plus it allows the reprogramming of the system.
    Hope this helps..

    How does that work? Do you order a new chip online?

    I tried resetting the alarm by removing JP1 but it didn't seem to reset. I guess it is engineering locked. I only left it off for a few seconds with the battery removed as the main alarm went off, due to no power. Do you need to leave it off for 20-30 seconds?

    Btw, I assume that alarm companies don't give out the engineering code over the phone? Is there any way to get them to give you the code without having to pay for a call-out. Also, if I did pay for a call out, do they provide the code then?


  • #43
    altor
    Registered Users Posts: 11,637 ✭✭✭✭altor


    Raphfrk wrote: »
    How does that work? Do you order a new chip online?

    I tried resetting the alarm by removing JP1 but it didn't seem to reset. I guess it is engineering locked. I only left it off for a few seconds with the battery removed as the main alarm went off, due to no power. Do you need to leave it off for 20-30 seconds?

    Btw, I assume that alarm companies don't give out the engineering code over the phone? Is there any way to get them to give you the code without having to pay for a call-out. Also, if I did pay for a call out, do they provide the code then?

    Hi Raphfrk.

    If you tried defaulting the alarm using the JP1 and that did not work then the alarm is engineer locked. You could ring the company and ask for the code. If they do have to come out you could get them to enter a code that suits you.

    www.altor.ie



  • #44
    clacks
    Registered Users Posts: 203 ✭✭clacks


    Hi. I have an Aritech cs350 alarm with a low battery warning. I never use the alarm and actually don't want to use it. The alarm has gone off intermittently over the last few months. Never at a good time. Not that there is one I suppose.
    I would love to have it totally disabled. i have the code but the panel never seems to register it when it does go off. I am really not technically minded for this kind of stuff. So the question is how easy is it to totally disable the whole thing, and also if I was to get somebody to call out to do it, how much do you reckon it may cost?

    Thanks in advance...


  • #45
    KoolKid
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    Why someone would have an alarm & rather disable it these days, I will never understand.
    If you want to disable it procede as follows.
    • Isloate the mains power at the fuse board
    • Open the main control panel by removing the 2 screws , centre left & right.
    • Remove the main fuse located at the top left where the mains is wired in.
    • The battery is located at the bottom of the panel , remove the red & black cables from the battery terminals.
    When you do this the keypad display will be blank & the out side bill will sound. Close up the panel & turn on the trip switch again. The outside bell will stop after 20-30 minutes.

    If you were to get this repaired a service & battery will cost between €90-€120 + maybe €25 for any sensors or contacts that may need to be replaced.


  • #46
    meercat
    Registered Users Posts: 4,725 ✭✭✭meercat


    Koolkid is spot on but my advice is not to disable alarm as this might invalidate your insurance if their is ever a claim. You should get it fixed as koolkid says


  • #47
    clacks
    Registered Users Posts: 203 ✭✭clacks


    koolkid wrote: »
    Why someone would have an alarm & rather disable it these days, I will never understand.
    If you want to disable it procede as follows.
    • Isloate the mains power at the fuse board
    • Open the main control panel by removing the 2 screws , centre left & right.
    • Remove the main fuse located at the top left where the mains is wired in.
    • The battery is located at the bottom of the panel , remove the red & black cables from the battery terminals.
    When you do this the keypad display will be blank & the out side bill will sound. Close up the panel & turn on the trip switch again. The outside bell will stop after 20-30 minutes.

    If you were to get this repaired a service & battery will cost between €90-€120 + maybe €25 for any sensors or contacts that may need to be replaced.

    Thanks for the help Koolkid. I know I should get it repaired but I hate alarms with a passion. Probably an alarm related childhood trauma:). Anyway I really appreciate the help. Think I'll disable it myself (when the neighbours are out!). Will the alarm sound too as soon as I remove the panel?

    Thanks again.


  • #48
    KoolKid
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    yes


  • #49
    BTE72
    Registered Users Posts: 70 ✭✭BTE72


    koolkid wrote: »
    +1 to everything Altor said above.
    Another important point to note is this: Leaving a low battery in the panel will eventually bring the panel down. The battery will draw more & more power from the panel. This results in a voltage drop to the powered devices & may result in an activation & the keypad becoming unresponsive.

    Unfortunately this has happened to my alarm. The low battery alarm was on for a few days then I got an intermittent alarm. I have now disconnected the terminal from the battery but my display panel is also dead. If I replace the battery will the alarm system function normally?
    Thanks


  • #50
    altor
    Registered Users Posts: 11,637 ✭✭✭✭altor


    BTE72 wrote: »
    Unfortunately this has happened to my alarm. The low battery alarm was on for a few days then I got an intermittent alarm. I have now disconnected the terminal from the battery but my display panel is also dead. If I replace the battery will the alarm system function normally?
    Thanks

    When you say the display, do you mean the keypad is gone blank ?

    www.altor.ie



  • #51
    BTE72
    Registered Users Posts: 70 ✭✭BTE72


    altor wrote: »
    When you say the display, do you mean the keypad is gone blank ?

    Yes the display panel is blank.

    I disconnected the power to the panel as i couldn't stop the bell sounding.

    Tks,


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  • #52
    KoolKid
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    You need to check the mains fuse. Also check the output of the mains power supply. It should be around 18vac.


  • #53
    altor
    Registered Users Posts: 11,637 ✭✭✭✭altor


    BTE72 wrote: »
    Yes the display panel is blank.

    I disconnected the power to the panel as i couldn't stop the bell sounding.

    Tks,

    Yes, replacing the battery plus mains power will bring it back on. Just enter your code to disarm the bells ringing.

    www.altor.ie



  • #54
    Basil Faulty
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4 ✭Basil Faulty


    i have recently replaced my battery as it had gone dead. however, the keypad is still blank and when i remove the cover only 1 of the 5 green LEDS is illuminated.
    any ideas how this can be resolved?


  • #55
    KoolKid
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    What panel is it?


  • #56
    Basil Faulty
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4 ✭Basil Faulty


    sorry ,forgot to include that . its an Aritech cs350


  • #57
    KoolKid
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    Are you referring to the back light LEDs between the buttons?
    Is there anything displayed on the screen?
    I Would try powering the system down .Remove the mains power and the battery.
    Power up on mains only and see if the keypad comes on.If that works then connect the new battery.


  • #58
    Basil Faulty
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4 ✭Basil Faulty


    Perfect, worked a treat. Thanks alot.
    i was quoted €100 for a guy to come out to repair it.

    All it took was:

    1. Remove old battery
    2. Remove mains fuse
    3. Insert mains fuse
    4. Insert new battery
    5. Clear alarm by entering password


  • #59
    KoolKid
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    Glad you got sorted. If you need anything else you know where to come?:)


  • #60
    shaydy
    Registered Users Posts: 516 ✭✭✭shaydy


    Hi All

    I've ran into an issue with my Aritech alarm aswell. The house alarm keeps going off and showing 'Fuse' on the handset box. I'm not sure of the model but looking at the manuals the handset appears to match a CH3008 I think. I've no idea where the fuse would be, theres a box under the stairs, another box in the attic and the handset.........

    Any help appreciated


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  • #61
    KoolKid
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    The fuses are located in the main control panel.
    It looks like this.
    130953.jpg

    The diagram below shows the fuse, their locations & their ratings.


    130954.jpg

    You will need to remove the fuses 1 by 1 and check which one is blown.
    Replace with one of the same rating.
    If it blows a new fuse we will need to look deeper.


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