Spider-Man: Far From Home [** SPOILERS FROM POST 240 **]

kerplun k wrote: »

But not just Peter and Ned, MJ, Flash, Betty and Liz were all snapped too. I’ll say it again, that’s some coincidence.

Same coincidence as the OG Avengers surviving the snap. I can live with it. Besides, the multiverse implies that any and all outcomes are possible, just so happens we're watching the one where all the friends got snapped.

pixelburp wrote: »

I'll make another 90% confidence claim that we'll get lip service and that's it. There's no way the brain trust thought hard enough about this five year bump; the more you think and dig, the less sense it makes, and the darker and more harrowing it becomes. I haven't seen narrative hand waving this blatant outside of stuff like the CW Flash show.

Oh, I think it would it be a huge cop out to do something like that and then not have a plan, even worse if they tried to just sweep the whole thing under the rug.

The upcoming sequels have somewhat covered themselves with most of the GOTG getting snapped. You don’t need to do a whole lot with Rocket, Gamora and Nebula to show an age difference, same with Black Panther, it’s not that much of an effort to show Okoye as 5 years older,

But in regards to any new installments I’d expect the events of Endgame to be woven into the narrative, I mean, having half the population disappear, and come back 5 years later with the same age as they left is a pretty big fricken deal, so much so, I’d lose ALL credibility for the MCU if they didn’t address it, and actually tried to ignore something like that.

I guess we’ll get a flavor of what direction they plan on going with FFH.

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

exactly it should but it doesn't IMO. So even if they all got snapped, unlikely, but anyway, everyone can jet set off to Europe like no snap ever happened and everywhere is all good these days only a short period after the events of endgame? Said it in Endgame thread and will say it here, what about food production, being able to cope with both the disappearance and the reversal etc. There is no way everything in Europe is just hunky-dory like it is today and in that trailer.

The 5 year gap is such a massive mistake in the MCU as they can never hope to even remotely get the consequences to be meaningful.

1. Dealing fully with the consequences would be boring as f.
2. It's two weeks. No movie has come out yet. You've seen nothing. Your criticism is based purely on speculation.

A massive mistake. Based on nothing.

While I do agree that it is a bit of a cop out that so many of his peers were snapped: As well as his classmates also Aunt May, Happy etc. I would miss them had they been written out/changed. I enjoyed them immensely in the first one.

had Sony been in on the ground floor about what was gonna happen in Infinity then I bet they would have written in a couple of characters that you liked/didn't like that could have been not-snapped in this one.

However given the secrecy level (Especially as this is a total other studio) I would imagine that they were just out of the loop intentionally.

I am really looking forward to this though. The first was fun and this looks so too (For some reason yer man getting punched in the crotch makes me laugh. Every. Time.

johnny_ultimate wrote: »

Well going by the trailer the film heavily references and builds on major developments from Endgame, so I’m sure they’re very much on the ground floor (and these films are made with Marvel Studios and considered mainline MCU entries) While it remains to be seen how the consequences and aftermath of the snap will be more widely handled, it’s the assumption - that this trailer supports - that the darker and more complex repercussions are likely to be glossed over. But that’s the Marvel films for you.

No, what I meant was when they were planning Spiderman Homecoming. They could have fleshed out some secondary characters that would be interesting but not critical. Say, another bully or sidekick of Flash's. All of a sudden he's five years older and outgrown them. No longer the bully but just happy to see his old friends/not-friends back. Why not have Gwen in the background of Homecoming. Have people go: Oh, Gwen AND MJ...... and then have Gwen appear as an adult looking at her ex-crush who is now a kid to her.

As you say, the new trailer leans heavily on the whole post Endgame fallout. I think Sony would have done something like this had they known in early days of scripting Homecoming.

Having said that. Given how Marvel mess around with trailers to throw people off track (Hulk in Age of Ultron scene where they are all running at the screen; Thor Ragnarok with both eyes etc.), who's to say that Aunt May and Happy aren't actually 5 years older.


Plus: Multiverse now, huh? Can you imagine how much people would lose their sh*t if Miles Morales suddenly popped up.....(You saw it here first: Post Credit sequence) Wonder would he be covered by Sony's Spiderman rights: Peter Parker for Sony and Miles Morales for Marvel Pictures...

johnny_ultimate wrote: »

Anyway, I have little investment in this - all about Spiderverse 2 instead

I'm waiting on the sequel to the Insomniac PlayStation game.

kerplun k wrote: »

Yep and because Spiderman is a Sony / Marvel partnership, I’m willing to give some leeway on the gloss, I mean, if FFH wants to say the core cast avoided the snap, that’s fine, also, you want to have a functional world within days of Endgame, that’s also fine, but I think if they are going to gloss over it, which it looks like they are, they really should at least acknowledge it.

Thor is a good example of how this should be handled. They didn’t just ignore the devastation caused in ragnarok. Thor is a mess, and you see the impact it had on the people. FFH should at least try to do something similar and show some impact of endgame.

The Russos really opened a can of worms here.

It's clear from the trailer though that Stark's death and its impact on Peter are going to play a huge part in his arc.

Seen a short clip of Peter meeting Mysterio, and that clip also that canonizes the MCU as and Mysterio being from and Peter when Mysterio mentions

An interview with director about the trailer, some good info here but you still can't take it as 100% truth as he might want to throw a curve ball. He confirms the multiverse exists because of the snap and Mysterio and the Elementals came from the other earth. Fury is putting a new team together starting with spider-man and Mysterio.

Still reeks of bull**** to me (Mysterio being a good guy from alternate earth)

https://www.fandango.com/movie-news/exclusive-interview-spider-man-far-from-home-director-jon-watts-breaks-down-that-wild-new-trailer-753743

Which snap caused the tear that allowed Mysterio through though, Thanos's original one when Thor should've gone for the head in Infinity War, Thanos's 2nd snap one when he destroyed the Stones at the beginning of Endgame, Smart Hulk snapping everyone back, or Tony's sacrificial snap towards the end of Endgame?

Rob2D wrote: »

Spoliers I guess:

https://i.redd.it/36c634sqizw21.jpg

What's the source on this?
I do expect Osborne to be introduced for and the Sinister Six but that reeks of speculation and fan theory. Not that I can't see some truth in it.