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Victory for electoral fraud

  • 23-05-2015 11:34am
    #1
    stefanovich
    Registered Users Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭


    What this referendum has highlighted even more clearly is the lack of security in our electoral system, how broken and open to abuse it is.

    66,000 non-residents return to vote yes. Enda is overjoyed.

    Non-Irish registered and voting and proud.


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  • #2
    anncoates
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,925 ✭✭✭✭anncoates


    How's those lemons?


  • #3
    Wang King
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,169 ✭✭✭Wang King


    I only wish more had returned


  • #4
    aaakev
    Registered Users Posts: 3,088 ✭✭✭aaakev


    stefanovich wrote: »
    What this referendum has highlighted even more clearly is the lack of security in our electoral system, how broken and open to abuse it is.

    66,000 non-residents return to vote yes. Enda is overjoyed.

    Non-Irish registered and voting and proud.
    they are citizens of this country and entitled to vote just like in any other democracy


  • #5
    Mozzeltoff
    Registered Users Posts: 8,614 ✭✭✭Mozzeltoff


    Alls fair in love and equality.


  • #6
    namloc1980
    Registered Users Posts: 18,064 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Well as the majority is likely to be 500,000 plus it's not a factor in the result.


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  • #7
    gman127
    Registered Users Posts: 630 ✭✭✭gman127


    People came home to vote.

    Could still vote how they wanted, it wasn't only the Yes voters being allowed through the airport


  • #8
    Sheldons Brain
    Registered Users Posts: 1,394 ✭✭✭Sheldons Brain


    aaakev wrote: »
    they are citizens of this country and entitled to vote just like in any other democracy

    They are not entitled to break the law. It seems that in this case anything can be justified by the yes side.


  • #9
    pablomakaveli
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,752 ✭✭✭pablomakaveli


    Not completely sure but i believe theres a time of like 18 months (could be more i'm not sure) in which an emigrant is still entitled to vote so no rules being broken.


  • #10
    cloud493
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,835 ✭✭✭✭cloud493


    Fair bit of salt in the OP there.


  • #11
    stefanovich
    Registered Users Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich


    aaakev wrote: »
    they are citizens of this country and entitled to vote just like in any other democracy
    That is in fact incorrect. If they are out of the country more than 18 months they are breaking the law if they vote.

    If you are not Irish and you voted yesterday you are also breaking the law.


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  • #12
    Rabbo
    Registered Users Posts: 637 ✭✭✭Rabbo


    I'm pretty sure the Yes vote carried because the majority of Irish people believe in equality and didn't believe the sky would fall in if we allowed gay people to marry. Not because a few thousand Irish people travelled home to vote


  • #13
    The Backwards Man
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    Fair play to them for using their vote, whatever way they vote. I know a lot of people, my own brother included, that was born here, schooled here, employed here, pay thousands of euro in tax here every year, and they have no say in the running of the country because they don't actually live here. I, for one, think that is wrong.


  • #14
    stefanovich
    Registered Users Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich


    Rabbo wrote: »
    I'm pretty sure the Yes vote carried because the majority of Irish people believe in equality and didn't believe the sky would fall in if we allowed gay people to marry. Not because a few thousand Irish people travelled home to vote
    Am I saying that?? All I am saying is that the system is insecure and broken.


  • #15
    Mr. CooL ICE
    Registered Users Posts: 17,496 ✭✭✭✭Mr. CooL ICE


    stefanovich wrote: »
    That is in fact incorrect. If they are out of the country more than 18 months they are breaking the law if they vote.

    If you are not Irish and you voted yesterday you are also breaking the law.

    How do you know they all voted yes? Perhaps Iona paid them all to come home and vote no?


  • #16
    Benny_Cake
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,205 ✭✭✭Benny_Cake


    stefanovich wrote: »
    If you are not Irish and you voted yesterday you are also breaking the law.

    Any evidence that people who aren't Irish were voting? That's a pretty serious allegation.


  • #17
    _Tombstone_
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,006 ✭✭✭_Tombstone_


    Is coming home to vote a Facebook thing?


  • #18
    stefanovich
    Registered Users Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich


    The Backwards Man wrote: »
    Fair play to them for using their vote, whatever way they vote. I know a lot of people. people, my own brother included, that was born here, schooled here, employed here, pay thousands of euro in tax here every year, and they have no say in the running of the country because they don't actually live here. I, for one, think that is wrong.
    Oh sorry, I didn't realise you disagreed with the law. I apologise. How wrong could I be for wishing people followed the rules!


  • #19
    aaakev
    Registered Users Posts: 3,088 ✭✭✭aaakev


    Sheldons Brain wrote: »
    They are not entitled to break the law. It seems that in this case anything can be justified by the yes side.

    Explain exactly how they are breaking the law?

    Sore looser much?


  • #20
    pablomakaveli
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,752 ✭✭✭pablomakaveli


    Rabbo wrote: »
    I'm pretty sure the Yes vote carried because the majority of Irish people believe in equality and didn't believe the sky would fall in if we allowed gay people to marry. Not because a few thousand Irish people travelled home to vote

    I knew when i saw the story about returning emigrants that the No side would latch onto it if they lost.


  • #21
    Harry Palmr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    stefanovich would you have given a **** if the NO vote had won by any chance?


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  • #22
    The Backwards Man
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    stefanovich wrote: »
    Oh sorry, I didn't realise you disagreed with the law. I apologise. How wrong could I be for wishing people followed the rules!

    What rule did they break, they are on the register and are eligible to vote. If you know otherwise you should contact the Gardai.


  • #23
    stefanovich
    Registered Users Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich


    Benny_Cake wrote: »
    Any evidence that people who aren't Irish were voting? That's a pretty serious allegation.
    Lots of third hand information.


  • #24
    wil
    Registered Users Posts: 4,188 ✭✭✭wil


    The Gathering 2013 Home for the craic
    The Gathering 2015 Home to vote
    What'll they call the next episode?


  • #25
    pablomakaveli
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,752 ✭✭✭pablomakaveli


    stefanovich wrote: »
    Lots of third hand information.

    Conjecture won't stand in court.


  • #26
    retro:electro
    Registered Users Posts: 21,039 ✭✭✭✭retro:electro


    Didn't take long for the excuses to start coming did it..
    Would you still be as outraged OP if it was a no majority?


  • #27
    stefanovich
    Registered Users Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich


    The Backwards Man wrote: »
    What rule did they break, they are on the register and are eligible to vote. If you know otherwise you should contact the Gardai.
    If you are out of the country more than 18 months then you are not resident. If you are not resident then you are not eligible to vote even if you didn't bother to take yourself off the register.


  • #28
    Not a NSA agent
    Closed Accounts Posts: 781 ✭✭✭Not a NSA agent


    Lots of claims, little proof.


  • #29
    The Backwards Man
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    pablomakaveli wrote: »
    Conjecture won't stand in court.

    Even Lionel Hutz wouldn't touch that.


  • #30
    stefanovich
    Registered Users Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich


    Not a NSA agent wrote: »
    Lots of claims, little proof.
    Hmm, 66,000 people travel back to vote. I wonder what percentage were out of the country more than 18 months?? Australia is a long way away.


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  • #31
    pablomakaveli
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,752 ✭✭✭pablomakaveli


    stefanovich wrote: »
    If you are out of the country more than 18 months then you are not resident. If you are not resident then you are not eligible to vote even if you didn't bother to take yourself off the register.

    How do you know that those people were out more than 18 months? And more importantly how do you know that their votes would have changed the outcome of the vote?


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