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  • 04-09-2015 8:58pm
    #1
    tomieen jones
    Registered Users Posts: 269 ✭✭


    Any tricks to stop yearlings turning in a crush? Had 23 in to castrate and everyone of them turned to face the wrong way
    would stok bord up three feet stop them with restricted head space? Don't really want to be pulling in pallets and messing! Looking for a permanent fix


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  • #2
    Willfarman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,239 ✭✭✭Willfarman


    Are you on your own at it?


  • #3
    tomieen jones
    Registered Users Posts: 269 ✭✭tomieen jones


    Willfarman wrote: »
    Are you on your own at it?
    Not for castration but other jobs yes I'm usually alone and it's very frustrating! Id like a permanent solution if there is one


  • #4
    Willfarman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,239 ✭✭✭Willfarman


    Always keep animal in front of one your working on. When castrating start at back of crush. Get helper in beside weanling. Hold tail up with one hand. Stone down with other. You work burdizzos. Change side for other stone.


  • #5
    raypallas
    Registered Users Posts: 285 ✭✭raypallas


    Willfarman wrote:
    Always keep animal in front of one your working on. When castrating start at back of crush. Get helper in beside weanling. Hold tail up with one hand. Stone down with other. You work burdizzos. Change side for other stone.


    Would you not lock the weanling in the locking gate? I wouldn't dream of getting in behind a lad to squeeze him without having him locked in.


  • #6
    tomieen jones
    Registered Users Posts: 269 ✭✭tomieen jones


    raypallas wrote: »
    Would you not lock the weanling in the locking gate? I wouldn't dream of getting in behind a lad to squeeze him without having him locked in.
    Yes I prefer to lock them in the head gate also! My problem is getting them to the gate facing the right way! Castrating them is not the problem here it's stopping them turning


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  • #7
    Limestone Cowboy
    Registered Users Posts: 3,516 ✭✭✭Limestone Cowboy


    Willfarman wrote: »
    Always keep animal in front of one your working on. When castrating start at back of crush. Get helper in beside weanling. Hold tail up with one hand. Stone down with other. You work burdizzos. Change side for other stone.

    Aul fella does the same with me tailing them, said anytime he got a right kick doing it was from the one at the front of the crush so usually stick a cow up the front.


  • #8
    Willfarman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,239 ✭✭✭Willfarman


    Never bother with locking gate unless it's a cracked animal. They are always going to push forward rather than back and wedge in beside animal in front. If they kick then they are angle toward wall or crush and not straight back at Poor aul willy! Even then a head halter is quicker. Done 128of castle islands finest exports in one day in around 2001. Never forget it.


  • #9
    Capercaillie
    Registered Users Posts: 1,732 ✭✭✭Capercaillie


    I would never castrate unless there is a beast in front of the animal I'm castrating. They are less likely to kick behind another animal.

    I would always castrate with somebody in the crush with me. They can push the animal to side, also they will deflect any kicks.


  • #10
    Willfarman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,239 ✭✭✭Willfarman


    Capercaillie wrote: »
    I would never castrate unless there is a beast in front of the animal I'm castrating. They are less likely to kick behind another animal.

    I would always castrate with somebody in the crush with me. They can push the animal to side, also they will deflect any kicks.

    Exactly.


  • #11
    Good loser
    Registered Users Posts: 3,167 ✭✭✭Good loser


    Not that much trouble to put pallets in, I find.

    If they all turn work from the opposite end.


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  • #12
    Farrell
    Registered Users Posts: 2,262 ✭✭✭Farrell


    Was there not an adjustable sides for working with calves in crushes a few year ago.
    Works telescopic like tractor back window, leave down for larger animals & pull out for smaller.
    Have the same problem dosing smaller stock too


  • #13
    tomieen jones
    Registered Users Posts: 269 ✭✭tomieen jones


    Farrell wrote: »
    Was there not an adjustable sides for working with calves in crushes a few year ago.
    Works telescopic like tractor back window, leave down for larger animals & pull out for smaller.
    Have the same problem dosing smaller stock too

    Thinking of a rail bar welded on inside of up rights about 3 feet up making it narrower for weanlings yet the bar would be too low to affect bigger cows !if you can picture what I'm trying to explain


  • #14
    Willfarman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,239 ✭✭✭Willfarman


    tomieen jones wrote: »
    Thinking of a rail bar welded on inside of up rights about 3 feet up making it narrower for weanlings yet the bar would be too low to affect bigger cows !if you can picture what I'm trying to explain

    You'd want to be able to remove it. If a big animal goes down in the crush it'd be wedged in it.


  • #15
    yellow50HX
    Registered Users Posts: 1,828 ✭✭✭yellow50HX


    Yeah I put pallets inside the crush to reduce the area for moving.

    As for the castrating I run a sling around the back of their legs and tighten it. It stops them from lashing back.


  • #16
    CloughCasey1
    Registered Users Posts: 2,741 ✭✭✭CloughCasey1


    We fill in the crush tight so they can't budge then work from the back and bit of spray marker if there is more in pin and reverse back into pen. Then move onto next.


  • #17
    Capercaillie
    Registered Users Posts: 1,732 ✭✭✭Capercaillie


    The local vet uses a sedative on all the cattle he castrates. Would be great to get some of that stuff. Don't know if they can give it out though.


  • #18
    greysides
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 8,971 Mod ✭✭✭✭greysides


    Capercaillie wrote: »
    The local vet uses a sedative on all the cattle he castrates. Would be great to get some of that stuff. Don't know if they can give it out though.

    Can't.

    The aim of argument, or of discussion, should not be victory, but progress. Joseph Joubert

    The ultimate purpose of debate is not to produce consensus. It's to promote critical thinking.

    Adam Grant



  • #19
    FarmerDougal
    Registered Users Posts: 359 ✭✭FarmerDougal


    A yearling shouldn't be able to turn in crush. Crush too wide.

    For castrating, fill crush, tie long rope to back leg and tighten forward to next available pillar. Nudge cattle back on calf being castrated to take power out of leg. Castrate from outside of crush through the bars. Less risk


  • #20
    Bullocks
    Registered Users Posts: 5,890 ✭✭✭Bullocks


    FarmerDougal wrote: »
    A yearling shouldn't be able to turn in crush. Crush too wide.

    For castrating, fill crush, tie long rope to back leg and tighten forward to next available pillar. Nudge cattle back on calf being castrated to take power out of leg. Castrate from outside of crush through the bars. Less risk

    It would be tricky to use the burdizzo through the crush bars , i agree they shouldn't be turning in the crush at a year old either


  • #21
    FarmerDougal
    Registered Users Posts: 359 ✭✭FarmerDougal


    Bullocks wrote: »
    It would be tricky to use the burdizzo through the crush bars , i agree they shouldn't be turning in the crush at a year old either

    An odd time they'll go down so just let go of squeezers.
    Done 40 in half an hour with this method. Fast and safe when you get used to it


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