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Ajax wireless alarm system
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Not yet, they are promoting their own integrations at the moment, but I believe there will be Google Home support in the future. It would be good to integrate some lighting
Definitely would, its what most systems are missing but they have their own devices for home automation.
I use sonoff devices to control lights/heating. also as I get a text from the alarm I use it to trigger lights for alarm activations using IFTTT. Think I read if you use your own sim card on the Ajax you can get text messages from the system but dont quote me on that
If so you can do the same.
The thing I dont agree with from a security point of view is the geofencing, on/off or the arming and disarming the system using commands and codes spoken out.
I dont know much the Ajax system as it is new to the market and home secure have the rights to it here but can be brought in through other channels if needs be. One issue is if you have a zone open when trying to set the alarm is it beeps and you have to go around the house to see whats open, realistically they should have an LCD display so you can see whats open or even for voice prompts.0 -
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Yes Id agree and add them to the list, some fobs can be set for code unset which is a safer solution.
Yep, but you and I know it is rarely used as such. Doing so defeats the purpose of such fobs, which is convenience.Pins on alarm are safe once only users know them, speaking out your code to disarm you alarm would be a different scenario.
Sure, but in a normal residential setting, that isn't going to be much issue in reality, everyone will know the PIN anyway. If you are bringing a stranger home you can always use the keypad for that time, just make sure they don't shoulder surf you 
BTW Google Home actually has voice recognition, it can differentiate between me and my better half, playing from our individual Spotify accounts when we talk to it, etc. I don't think this is at a high enough level of reliability yet for security, but it is only a matter of time. AIB have actually started using voice recognition to identify customers when you call their help line!
I actually wonder when someone builds face ID type biometric tech into a security camera. Imagine a camera at your front door that scans the face of each person who enters and disarms the alarm when it sees you. It could also arm the system when it sees that everyone has left.
Netatmo already has something like this on it's cameras, but I don't think it has anything like face ID level of reliability yet.
It is definitely going to be an interesting space to watch develop over the next few years. Lots of interesting possibilities.Id agree also its not ideal and very backward if you have a system that you actually need to open an app to see whats open and closed.
LCD keypad or voice prompts would be a easy fix to this solution.
Well, you don't necessarily have to open an app. When it fails to arm, the system can just send you a notification of why it failed, you can read it by just glancing at your phone lock screen, much quicker then needing to open the app. I don't know if Ajax does this, but if it doesn't it should, it would make up for the lack of screen.
But I agree I'd prefer if it had a screen. My Yale system doesn't have a screen, I don't like that, but neither is it the end of the world, it is relatively seldom that I forget to lock a window, but it would be nicer if it had it. It isn't a big enough to be a deal breaker, just a minor annoyance/con.
Actually on that, I don't know why no one is using e-ink screens on their keypads. e-ink is great, always on screen and at a fraction of the power usage of a LED screen. My Netatmo Smart Thermostat has such a screen and it is great, works really well, years of battery life out of it. Would be perfect for use in alarm keypads like these.
Anyway always fun to chat and think about these things
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Yep, but you and I know it is rarely used as such. Doing so defeats the purpose of such fobs, which is convenience.
Yes Id agree with that bk, I would always recommend on fobs that would be used for the purpose of putting them on your keys.Sure, but in a normal residential setting, that isn't going to be much issue in reality, everyone will know the PIN anyway. If you are bringing a stranger home you can always use the keypad for that time, just make sure they don't shoulder surf you
Hahaha you just never know whos watching, plus if you look at older keypads its not rocket science to work out codes from dirty and clean buttonsBTW Google Home actually has voice recognition, it can differentiate between me and my better half, playing from our individual Spotify accounts when we talk to it, etc. I don't think this is at a high enough level of reliability yet for security, but it is only a matter of time. AIB have actually started using voice recognition to identify customers when you call their help line!
Yes they do but its more so the speaking of your user code than the voice recognition which can be used to disarm your alarm system I was thinking along the lines of.I actually wonder when someone builds face ID type biometric tech into a security camera. Imagine a camera at your front door that scans the face of each person who enters and disarms the alarm when it sees you. It could also arm the system when it sees that everyone has left.
Netatmo already has something like this on it's cameras, but I don't think it has anything like face ID level of reliability yet.
It is definitely going to be an interesting space to watch develop over the next few years. Lots of interesting possibilities.
It sure is, technology is moving so fast along that something done last year is superseded the next. Its good to be moving with the times, just need a few alarm companies to do the same re the home automation side of things and we will be all happy.Well, you don't necessarily have to open an app. When it fails to arm, the system can just send you a notification of why it failed, you can read it by just glancing at your phone lock screen, much quicker then needing to open the app. I don't know if Ajax does this, but if it doesn't it should, it would make up for the lack of screen.
But I agree I'd prefer if it had a screen. My Yale system doesn't have a screen, I don't like that, but neither is it the end of the world, it is relatively seldom that I forget to lock a window, but it would be nicer if it had it. It isn't a big enough to be a deal breaker, just a minor annoyance/con.
You do on the Ajax system. LCD screen or even a voice anounations of the open zones would be the ideal solution.Anyway always fun to chat and think about these things
Always good to have constructive banter re these system and what they should be bringing to the table to make end users life easier 0 -
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