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Dark side of the ring

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  • #122
    Itssoeasy
    Registered Users Posts: 39,409 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    It just kind of put everything in one place and the detective came across shady as ****, and vince doesn't come out smelling of roses but that's because snuka mentioned him being at a meeting at the time which considering there is no record of what was said in that meeting raises more questions than answers.


  • #123
    The White Wolf
    Registered Users Posts: 5,123 ✭✭✭The White Wolf


    Yeah this episode was the most disappointing so far, either there was nothing new unearthed or they were limited in what could be claimed without ramifications.

    Doesn't give me confidence in the upcoming Owen Hart episode.


  • #124
    PTH2009
    Registered Users Posts: 37,711 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Can see this whole WWE Covid saga (PC shows, releases, Vince's ego etc.) been a future episode


  • #125
    HanFiredFirst
    Closed Accounts Posts: 88 ✭✭HanFiredFirst


    There was noting new in the Snuka episode if you are a wrestling fan but if you are a casual viewer watching this they may find it quiet shocking.


  • #126
    The White Wolf
    Registered Users Posts: 5,123 ✭✭✭The White Wolf


    Hogan is the first thing I remember about wrestling, while Snuka was always a wrestler I knew of and liked. The only thing I'll give this episode is they got across just how big a star Snuka was for a time. I actually had no idea how popular he was in spite of the WWE PR machine always bigging him up.


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  • #127
    764dak
    Registered Users Posts: 1,847 ✭✭✭764dak


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    Can see this whole WWE Covid saga (PC shows, releases, Vince's ego etc.) been a future episode

    No


  • #128
    ThePott
    Registered Users Posts: 3,041 ✭✭✭ThePott


    Yeah just watched it. Pretty lacklustre episode unfortunately. Seemed like they didn't have much to really fill the episode and there was certainly no sense of closure or relevation to the whole thing. Which is the sad reality of the whole thing but doesn't make for a great episode as a result.


  • #129
    Blanco100
    Registered Users Posts: 1,933 ✭✭✭Blanco100


    Love to see an in depth look at the actual relationship between Andy Kaufmann and Jerry Lawler from their interactions back in the 80s. I know it was a work, but when they used him for the movie with Jim Carrey as Kaufmann, its apparent that Carrey took the kayfabe a little too far with Lawler and seemingly played the gimmick of Kaufmann even more seriously than Kaufmann himself.

    Apparently it caused serious tensions with Lawler so would love to see this explored


  • #130
    ThePott
    Registered Users Posts: 3,041 ✭✭✭ThePott


    You see a good chunk of that in the Jim Carrey documentary, Jim & Andy on Netflix.
    Decent doc but if you're a Carrey fan it might ruin him a bit for you he comes off as such a pretentious asshat.


  • #131
    Agent Coulson
    Registered Users Posts: 60,270 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    The Dino Bravo episode was really interesting and some great talking heads in the Mountie and Jimmy Hart.


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  • #132
    Agent Coulson
    Registered Users Posts: 60,270 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Vice Eyes More ‘Dark Side Of The Ring’ & Plans To Expand Franchise Into New Worlds
    Dark Side of the Ring has become one of Vice TV’s biggest ever series. The youth-skewing cable network is now looking to double-down on the wrestling docuseries as well as expand the franchise into new areas.

    Morgan Hertzan, EVP & General Manager, Vice TV told Deadline that the show has become a “mega-hit” for the network.

    “We are eagerly looking forward to explore more ways to do more episodes of Dark Side of the Ring and Dark Side of other strands,” he said. “We also are looking at all of our audience data and what people love about that show is, and are using it to inform other shows that we’re greenlighting. The audience is telling us they love this kind of storytelling so we want to keep delivering on that over and over again.”

    https://deadline.com/2020/04/vice-dark-side-of-the-ring-expand-franchise-1202912188/


  • #133
    montyrebel
    Registered Users Posts: 1,426 ✭✭✭montyrebel


    what other episodes could they film?

    vince steroid trial?
    probably an episode with trumps time in wwf

    ???


  • #134
    CastorTroy
    Registered Users Posts: 28,785 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Brian Pillman? Dynamite Kid?


  • #135
    764dak
    Registered Users Posts: 1,847 ✭✭✭764dak


    montyrebel wrote: »
    what other episodes could they film?

    vince steroid trial?
    probably an episode with trumps time in wwf

    ???

    What about this woman?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juana_Barraza


  • #136
    The Nal
    Registered Users Posts: 12,415 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    montyrebel wrote: »
    what other episodes could they film?

    vince steroid trial?
    probably an episode with trumps time in wwf

    ???

    Pretty much any wrestler who has died of an OD or drugs related death. Davey Boy, Rick Rude, Mr Perfect, Test et al.

    Owen Hart

    The Vince Russo/Hulk Hogan thing with Jeff Jarrett.

    Jake the Snake.


  • #137
    Blanco100
    Registered Users Posts: 1,933 ✭✭✭Blanco100


    Definately the Vince steroid trial.

    The need to also take an indepth look at why a certain generation of wrestlers are no longer around anymore, alot of guys dropping dead in their late 30s/early 40s due to years of (alleged) steroid abuse.

    Chyna also, the life and times. Even detailing her relationship with HHH


  • #138
    Agent Coulson
    Registered Users Posts: 60,270 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Richard Belzer suing Hogan for $5m would be an interesting one to do.


  • #139
    Itssoeasy
    Registered Users Posts: 39,409 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Agent Coulson wrote: »
    Richard Belzer suing Hogan for $5m would be an interesting one to do.

    I can't believe I'm going to defend hogan on this but if you watch the footage hogan doesn't tighten the hold that much. It was the fact he dropped like a sack of spuds onto a studio floor that did the damage.


  • #140
    gerrybbadd
    Registered Users Posts: 10,301 ✭✭✭✭gerrybbadd


    The Nal wrote: »
    Pretty much any wrestler who has died of an OD or drugs related death. Davey Boy, Rick Rude, Mr Perfect, Test et al.

    Owen Hart

    The Vince Russo/Hulk Hogan thing with Jeff Jarrett.

    Jake the Snake.

    The last episode of this current series is about Owen


  • #141
    Agent Coulson
    Registered Users Posts: 60,270 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Agent Coulson wrote: »
    Richard Belzer suing Hogan for $5m would be an interesting one to do.

    Discussed this week as part of the David Schultz episode.


    This weeks episode was a really interesting one.

    Schultz is a really interesting guy.


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  • #142
    PTH2009
    Registered Users Posts: 37,711 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Enjoying the series so far and its something positive in these challenging times

    Pity the season will be over in a few weeks


  • #143
    OneEightSeven
    Registered Users Posts: 1,333 ✭✭✭OneEightSeven


    I'm enjoying this series, but I'm struggling to see what's so "dark" about the Brawl For All and David Schultz.

    In regards to other stories they can document. They can cover steroids and sex abuse scandals involving Terry Garvin, Pat Patterson, and Mel Phillips. The steroids stuff would have to be at least a two-parter and they should include footage of Vince trying to intimidate the interviewers. Here's one such example:



    I think there's another one where he gets in Bob Costas' face and comes across as such a deranged weirdo, but the WWE blocked it from YouTube:

    https://www.si.com/extra-mustard/2017/05/10/bob-costas-vince-mcmahon-pro-wrestling-xfl

    Rob Feinstein getting caught in a child predator sting operation is another story they could cover:

    https://www.facebook.com/AvoidRFVideo/videos/vb.799819180036558/1038217486196725/?type=2&theater


  • #144
    JamieHP
    Registered Users Posts: 130 ✭✭JamieHP


    Would like to see an episode on the 1992 Ringboy Sex Scandal. Really enjoying the last 2 seasons


  • #145
    The White Wolf
    Registered Users Posts: 5,123 ✭✭✭The White Wolf


    The show is starting to lose a bit its shine me, it's main strength now being that it can both sides in front of one camera so to speak.

    And what an arsehole John Stossel is "the pain went away eventually.....once I got paid."


  • #146
    briany
    Registered Users Posts: 13,506 ✭✭✭✭briany


    The White Wolf wrote: »
    And what an arsehole John Stossel is "the pain went away eventually.....once I got paid."

    I even wanted to slap him in the head by the end of the programme.

    Incidentally, a good simple way to get heat would be for a weaselly heel to claim assault when attacked outside of a match. And he would be technically correct as well. It's been done before, but not lately on a big stage.


  • #147
    The White Wolf
    Registered Users Posts: 5,123 ✭✭✭The White Wolf


    briany wrote: »
    I even wanted to slap him in the head by the end of the programme.

    Incidentally, a good simple way to get heat would be for a weaselly heel to claim assault when attacked outside of a match. And he would be technically correct as well. It's been done before, but not lately on a big stage.
    It actually crossed my mind when he said that because the line was so over the top. I wonder if he's trying to work himself into another pay day assuming any promotion would be stupid enough to indulge.


  • #148
    Agent Coulson
    Registered Users Posts: 60,270 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    This weeks episode will be on Herb Abrams owner of The UWF (The TNA of it's day) not someone I know a huge amount about other than he died in police custody


  • #149
    sky88
    Registered Users Posts: 8,689 ✭✭✭sky88


    Agent Coulson wrote: »
    This weeks episode will be on Herb Abrams owner of The UWF (The TNA of it's day) not someone I know a huge amount about other than he died in police custody

    Know the name and that’s it looking forward to learning about the story


  • #150
    B.A._Baracus
    Registered Users Posts: 11,170 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    Agent Coulson wrote: »
    Richard Belzer suing Hogan for $5m would be an interesting one to do.

    Would be an interesting episode but it wouldnt end with a decent answer I think.

    I know what it feels like to take a front chancery / guillotine and it Fu*ing sucks. You feeling like tapping the second it's fully on. But to sink that in you have to wrench back and up (standing on your tippy toes helps)

    So on one hand there's no way Hogan would sink it in on live TV. Ahead of the biggest match that's gonna make him a megastar.

    Then, and I just paused typing and watched it again and you see Hogan "wrench up" - I honestly have no idea what happened.

    Did Hogan set it in?
    Was Belzer just selling along and hit his head THEN sued?
    Was Belzer, dare I say it, a bitch and passed out?


    Hard to say.


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  • #151
    Itssoeasy
    Registered Users Posts: 39,409 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Agent Coulson wrote: »
    This weeks episode will be on Herb Abrams owner of The UWF (The TNA of it's day) not someone I know a huge amount about other than he died in police custody

    This will be an amazing episode because the story of his last days is just so pro wrestling it's amazing.

    He did die in police custody but it was nothing linked to the police. He died of a heart attack.


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