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Garden Cabins as Holiday Home/AirBnB

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  • 27-01-2020 9:40pm
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    RichCRX
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    Hi All,

    Having worked in the tourism industry for a number of years now, I've always been intrigued by the whole B&B industry, or at least the idea of providing hospitality and being a host / point of information to tourists.

    We are not in a position financially to buy a house that can act as a B&B, but it got me thinking about how a lot of Garden Cabins are being used as AirBnB's these days and how people are doing this, as we would be interested in doing similar (i.e. 2-3 garden cabins at the very rear of the house).

    It's my understanding that getting planning permission on these types of structures is pretty much impossible due to a number of reasons like building regulations, not in fitting with local area etc... So that leaves me to wonder then how these people are managing to use garden cabins as AirBnB's. I assume by not having adequate planning permission in the first place, there is no chance of getting insurance for something like this (or if you do get insurance, in the event of any accident, zero likelihood of cover).

    So are these people essentially taking a risk when renting these or is there another way around planning when they are treated as holiday home (similar to glamping sites I guess).

    Be interested to hear some of yere thoughts.

    Thanks,
    Richie.
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    Gumbo
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    Yes, essentially they are breaking the law if they haven’t got proper planning fkr the structure and the use.


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    davindub
    Registered Users Posts: 1,447 ✭✭✭davindub


    RichCRX wrote: »
    Hi All,

    Having worked in the tourism industry for a number of years now, I've always been intrigued by the whole B&B industry, or at least the idea of providing hospitality and being a host / point of information to tourists.

    We are not in a position financially to buy a house that can act as a B&B, but it got me thinking about how a lot of Garden Cabins are being used as AirBnB's these days and how people are doing this, as we would be interested in doing similar (i.e. 2-3 garden cabins at the very rear of the house).

    It's my understanding that getting planning permission on these types of structures is pretty much impossible due to a number of reasons like building regulations, not in fitting with local area etc... So that leaves me to wonder then how these people are managing to use garden cabins as AirBnB's. I assume by not having adequate planning permission in the first place, there is no chance of getting insurance for something like this (or if you do get insurance, in the event of any accident, zero likelihood of cover).

    So are these people essentially taking a risk when renting these or is there another way around planning when they are treated as holiday home (similar to glamping sites I guess).

    Be interested to hear some of yere thoughts.

    Thanks,
    Richie.

    Might be more feasible to build an extension and /or attic conversion with planning permission and either do rent a room (up to 14k tax free) or b&b with less than 4 guest rooms (exempt from planning once the house continues to be used as a dwelling, i.e. full time residents)

    Rent a room is probably the most attractive given the 0 tax and less hassle meeting guests, cleaning between guests and having to pretend to like your guests for a good rating...


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    RichCRX
    Registered Users Posts: 205 ✭✭RichCRX


    Thanks for the replies folks. Unfortunately the attic conversion / extension are not really options that would work for us, which is a pity.

    @davindub you're right about the rent a room being easier in practice and more tax efficient, but I guess the issue with it too would be you take the risk on a tenant, who if turns out to be the wrong tenant, can be more difficult to evict. In addition, you don't get the same buzz of being able to help tourists have a great stay and trip.

    Anyway, I just said I'd pose the question about how other's get away with renting these garden cabins without planning or perhaps they are getting planning permission for them via some camping/glamping site application.

    I'd be interested to hear other peoples thoughts and feedback, so if anyone has got any further insights, feel free to share.


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    Gumbo
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 38,436 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    RichCRX wrote: »
    @davindub you're right about the rent a room being easier in practice and more tax efficient, but I guess the issue with it too would be you take the risk on a tenant, who if turns out to be the wrong tenant, can be more difficult to evict. In addition, you don't get the same buzz of being able to help tourists have a great stay and trip.

    Rent a room users are not tenants. They have no tenants rights. They are Licencee's and and such are afforded no rights. You can dump them out with an hours notice.


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    Idbatterim
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    Kceire, assuming the op could get such a structure as an extension to current home and let it out on airbnb etc?


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    Gumbo
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    Idbatterim wrote: »
    Kceire, assuming the op could get such a structure as an extension to current home and let it out on airbnb etc?

    The issue here is the junction of the existing house and the new timber log cabin.
    It will need an engineered solution and then the cabin itself requires to comply with building regulations for new build extensions.

    It would honestly be cheaper to do a traditional build and if it’s the log cabin look you like, use a timber external clad.


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    arctictree
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    What about one of those shepards huts? They look great and i assume dont need planning as they are mobile.


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    L1011
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    arctictree wrote: »
    What about one of those shepards huts? They look great and i assume dont need planning as they are mobile.

    If they're in use as a dwelling, they do.


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    sydthebeat
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    arctictree wrote: »
    What about one of those shepards huts? They look great and i assume dont need planning as they are mobile.

    Mobile???

    Even mobile homes require planning permission.

    There is no exemption for "temporary" structures, that is a myth.


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    arctictree
    Registered Users Posts: 4,284 ✭✭✭arctictree


    sydthebeat wrote: »
    Mobile???

    Even mobile homes require planning permission.

    There is no exemption for "temporary" structures, that is a myth.

    How do you get planning for something then that's mobile and if its moved around? We could potentially use this hut during lambing time and it would be moved from field to field.


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