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riemann wrote: »

You can block posters you feel are talking bolx.

I've never blocked anyone, but I'd imagine that you'd still get the posts if someone quoted them

in for a long Christmas....
https://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/ifa-stages-sit-in-at-ag-house-over-carcass-trim-case/

Reggie. wrote: »

Got a call from work. Looking for a brief on the protest. Being a farmer in Dublin has its uses it seems

It's easier to get into those places than to get out,I'd always be inclined to hang back, at least if you were on the outside you could go home when you liked . It's probably the National Livestock Commitee

TITANIUM. wrote: »

You shouldn't have put on that red cap!

Oh but it means no ones likes me. The way I like it.

MeheeHohee wrote: »

3 bulls u16, 2 e-2= and 1 u+2-, made 3.99 and 3.87. Was expecting a bit more with bord bia 12 c

You were lucky as there wasn't enough flesh on them.

MeheeHohee wrote: »

What is the fat requirement for young bulls? 2=?
What's the best way of putting fat on muscular cattle?

2+ is the min. Hard to get fat cover on good muscled bulls under 16 months (Not that I ever tried it). Can even be hard on good under 24 month bulls. Meal with a high maize content is Your best bet I'd say.

MeheeHohee wrote: »

What is the fat requirement for young bulls? 2=?
What's the best way of putting fat on muscular cattle?

Idk if there is a way to put much fat on them. They are meant to be lean. Meal with added fat and maize meal. If they were on adlib concentrates it canbe hard to get the intakes with such a dry feed and molasses or sugar beet would help. But with only 3,concentrates are the only way

MeheeHohee wrote: »

3 bulls u16, 2 e-2= and 1 u+2-, made 3.99 and 3.87. Was expecting a bit more with bord bia 12 c

You were at the mercy of purcurment manager when you missed the grid.
Id have to take u24 price for the 2= and the 2- would eventually get u24 price but a bit of ballicking and told not to bring anything like that again

Reggie. wrote: »

You behave yourself.....

I do not know how that got in there but it looks good. It was ment to be on the ''E's''. But that sounds dodgy as well

charolais0153 wrote: »

It looks like he got 24c and 12c above base price rather than getting cut tbh

Base is 3.73 a U+ getting the 12c QA would gets 24c/kg for the 4 base grades improvements above R=/R- (which are the base grades). The E- would have been another 6c improvements That would have made his overall price would have been 4.11 for the U and 4.17 for the E- if they had been FS2+ minimum

However as they were lower FS he lost the 12c/kg QA and 12c/kg for the two FS on the U giving a price of 3.87/kg and 12c+6c/kg on the E's giving a final price of 3.99/kg. On bulls killing 400kgs that is 72/head on the E's and 92 euro on the U grade animal. It would have paid to keep feeding them and take a flat price after Christmass if they were over 16 months. More than likly Op was feeding a very high P ration when if he had added Barley to it he have reduced his feeding costs and came up on the FS's

Muckit wrote: »

Factories would school you!

Not really but this is where the bull about there only being 20ish cent between U and O grade cattle eminates. An O+ bullock with a FS of 3 would make 3.75/kg. He is not far behind those Bulls. But he is in spec and suitable for the UK prime market. Those bulls would go to a lower priced market because of there FS.

Factories would *fool* you!

Fixed that for ya boss.

K9 wrote: »

Bass Reeves wrote: »

Base is 3.73 a U+ getting the 12c QA would gets 24c/kg for the 4 base grades improvements above R=/R- (which are the base grades). The E- would have been another 6c improvements That would have made his overall price would have been 4.11 for the U and 4.17 for the E- if they had been FS2+ minimum

However as they were lower FS he lost the 12c/kg QA and 12c/kg for the two FS on the U giving a price of 3.87/kg and 12c+6c/kg on the E's giving a final price of 3.99/kg. On bulls killing 400kgs that is 72/head on the E's and 92 euro on the U grade animal. It would have paid to keep feeding them and take a flat price after Christmass if they were over 16 months. More than likly Op was feeding a very high P ration when if he had added Barley to it he have reduced his feeding costs and came up on the FS's

You won’t get 6c/kg more for grading E. Due to bulls grading better and killout higher than steers factories are offering less of base price for u16 bulls.
I know factory in Ennis give QA on 2= for bulls so that might be the case here. Any bull that I slaughtered that doesn’t meet the fat score it’s only the QA you don’t get. You don’t lose the 6c increases on the grades.
Hardly worth feeding on the bulls with overage U grade bulls quoted at 3.85
Fair going to get E carcase on u16 bulls

My pricing for the bulls works out exactly for a 3.75 base if they are treating them as young bulls. Yes factory try to buy off grid but in this case they have have paid as per grid and as per FS's.
Es U grade bulls are quoted at the moment at 3.85 bulls are the first to rise when prices rise. 4/kg may be attainable a in January. Those quality of bulls will put on more weight than it costs to put on them. It different if you are turning and replacing. If you are finishing your own production you need to maximize your profit. The real difference would have been on the U bulls

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Why 16 months with young bulls? Is there such a drop off in tenderness so quickly after the 16m. Is it the same Europe wide?

it is an arbritory age that suits retailers and processors. it targets these bulls a times of tight supply May/June and December/January because of time of birth. it also jeeps down carcasses weight however it causes an issue on FS. However processors do claim that as bulls get older there is more likely to be a store period that can effect carcass quality.

Bass Reeves wrote: »

My pricing for the bulls works out exactly for a 3.75 base if they are treating them as young bulls. Yes factory try to buy off grid but in this case they have have paid as per grid and as per FS's.
Es U grade bulls are quoted at the moment at 3.85 bulls are the first to rise when prices rise. 4/kg may be attainable a in January. Those quality of bulls will put on more weight than it costs to put on them. It different if you are turning and replacing. If you are finishing your own production you need to maximize your profit. The real difference would have been on the U bulls

As it is, it’s getting difficult to move overage bulls. Bulls already have 120 days of 10kg + of meal, always a risk of them becoming stale or getting injured. I’d be happy to have em gone.
Don’t see the point in supplying heavier carcasses to processors at lower prices