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The wondrous adventures of Sinn Fein (part 3) Mod Notes and Threadbanned List in OP

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  • Registered Users Posts: 27,038 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    They chose to appoint somebody with relevant qualifications.

    So basically you have no reason to suspect cronyism...have no issue with ay of the parties here bar SF and are just having another cheap rant.



    It is blatant cronyism, sneaked in at Christmas when people had other thoughts. You are one of the posters that rants about cronyism all the time.............except when it is SF.

    Why couldn't SF have asked Stateboards.ie to help with the nomination process? Instead, they just did the crony thing and appointed one of their own. She is not qualified to hold any public position.

    As least down here, there is a process to follow.


  • Registered Users Posts: 27,038 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    ffg appointed an ex-loobist for nagp to the ethics watchdog to investigate leaks of confidential documents from ffg to nagp

    Say what?

    Can you give some detail.


  • Registered Users Posts: 66,308 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    blanch152 wrote: »
    It is blatant cronyism, sneaked in at Christmas when people had other thoughts. You are one of the posters that rants about cronyism all the time.............except when it is SF.

    Why couldn't SF have asked Stateboards.ie to help with the nomination process? Instead, they just did the crony thing and appointed one of their own. She is not qualified to hold any public position.

    As least down here, there is a process to follow.

    You never did explain the 'sneaked' in bit. Was it just because you didn't hear about it?

    And explain why she isn't qualified to hold 'any' public position? And while you are at it, explain which part of the 'process' wasn't followed here, other than seeking your approval and keeping you specifically up to speed on appointments. I am assuming the SDLP and DUP let you know who they were appointing.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    blanch152 wrote: »
    Say what?

    Can you give some detail.

    here


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 844 ✭✭✭CrazyFather1


    blanch152 wrote: »
    It is blatant cronyism, sneaked in at Christmas when people had other thoughts. You are one of the posters that rants about cronyism all the time.............except when it is SF.

    Why couldn't SF have asked Stateboards.ie to help with the nomination process? Instead, they just did the crony thing and appointed one of their own. She is not qualified to hold any public position.

    As least down here, there is a process to follow.

    We seem to have two clear group's of rules & regulations for political parties
    1. Rules and regulations Sinn Fein adhere to
    2. Rules and regulations every other party in Ireland(North & South) adhere to

    It would be easier if the relevant posters could share both sets because at this stage category 1 seems to change like the wind.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 66,308 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    We seem to have two clear group's of rules & regulations for political parties
    1. Rules and regulations Sinn Fein adhere to
    2. Rules and regulations every other party in Ireland(North & South) adhere to

    It would be easier if the relevant posters could share both sets because at this stage category 1 seems to change like the wind.

    What rules did SF, SDLP and the DUP break here?


  • Registered Users Posts: 27,038 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    We seem to have two clear group's of rules & regulations for political parties
    1. Rules and regulations Sinn Fein adhere to
    2. Rules and regulations every other party in Ireland(North & South) adhere to

    It would be easier if the relevant posters could share both sets because at this stage category 1 seems to change like the wind.

    Definitely so. Here is one gem:

    https://www.sinnfein.ie/contents/42557

    "Sinn Féin is clear on what appointments to state boards should look like.

    "Multiple directorships should be limited, appointments should be transparent, directors' salaries should be fair, gender quotas should be implemented, and timely provision of accounts should be provided"

    Not followed in this case, where is the transparent appointment process allowing anyone to apply?

    https://www.publicjobs.ie/restapi/documents/StateBoardsActivity2020.pdf

    This is the type of thing that should be done. Well done to FG for bringing transparency to the appointments process. A pity that SF could not live up to their platitudes, but did anyone expect them to?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 844 ✭✭✭CrazyFather1


    What rules did SF, SDLP and the DUP break here?

    I have no idea, as I said you guys seems to have a set which I am not privy to. If you could share that would be brill. Thanks


  • Registered Users Posts: 66,308 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    I have no idea, as I said you guys seems to have a set which I am not privy to. If you could share that would be brill. Thanks

    Perhaps talk to the poster who flagged this as being 'sneaked in' and as the appointment of somebody 'not fit for any public office'


  • Registered Users Posts: 66,308 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    blanch152 wrote: »
    Definitely so. Here is one gem:

    https://www.sinnfein.ie/contents/42557

    "Sinn Féin is clear on what appointments to state boards should look like.

    "Multiple directorships should be limited, appointments should be transparent, directors' salaries should be fair, gender quotas should be implemented, and timely provision of accounts should be provided"

    Not followed in this case, where is the transparent appointment process allowing anyone to apply?

    https://www.publicjobs.ie/restapi/documents/StateBoardsActivity2020.pdf

    This is the type of thing that should be done. Well done to FG for bringing transparency to the appointments process. A pity that SF could not live up to their platitudes, but did anyone expect them to?

    Again:

    What was 'sneaked in' about this appointment.
    Why was this specific appointment one of 'somebody not fit for any public office'.
    And how was it outside of the criteria for appointments to this body?

    When you are ready, maybe we can discuss.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 27,038 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    Perhaps talk to the poster who flagged this as being 'sneaked in' and as the appointment of somebody 'not fit for any public office'

    Of course it was sneaked in, no transparency, no advertisement, no chance to apply, it happens all the time with SF.

    http://www.stateboards.ie/stateboards/campaignAdverts.htm

    Here, you could even apply for one under FG. Let us know how you get on.


  • Registered Users Posts: 27,038 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    Again:

    What was 'sneaked in' about this appointment.
    Why was this specific appointment one of 'somebody not fit for any public office'.
    And how was it outside of the criteria for appointments to this body?

    When you are ready, maybe we can discuss.

    That is the whole point. The appointments are controlled by the corrupt Stormont government, of which SF are a large part. They carve up appointments as a form of cronyism, more akin to favours bestowed by a monarch. Not a single thing republican about it.

    Do you think that appointments to Foras Na Gaeilge are made in the correct way by the Stormont government?

    As for Liadh, she is completely unsuitable for public office.


  • Registered Users Posts: 66,308 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    blanch152 wrote: »
    Of course it was sneaked in, no transparency, no advertisement, no chance to apply, it happens all the time with SF.

    http://www.stateboards.ie/stateboards/campaignAdverts.htm

    Here, you could even apply for one under FG. Let us know how you get on.

    You flagged this by posting a newspaper article about it from the time the appointment was made 'Transparency' rant blown out of the window.

    Where in the process for this body is the requirement to advertise for the position - can you post advertisements from others (i.e. SDLP - DUP)


  • Registered Users Posts: 66,308 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    blanch152 wrote: »
    That is the whole point. The appointments are controlled by the corrupt Stormont government, of which SF are a large part. They carve up appointments as a form of cronyism, more akin to favours bestowed by a monarch. Not a single thing republican about it.

    Do you think that appointments to Foras Na Gaeilge are made in the correct way by the Stormont government?

    As for Liadh, she is completely unsuitable for public office.

    Can yu show how the SDLP, SF and The DUP and who ever else made appointments broke the rules here. The rules set down by the GFA which was an agreement between the UK and Irish Government.

    Why is she completely unsuitable for public office?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 10,650 ✭✭✭✭maccored



    i love how blanch just ignores the stuff he gets called out on


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 504 ✭✭✭a very cool kid


    maccored wrote: »
    i love how blanch just ignores the stuff he gets called out on

    Well that's a political appointment which is fine. Why were SF complaining when they clearly understand how a political appointment works?


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭smurgen


    maccored wrote: »
    i love how blanch just ignores the stuff he gets called out on

    Better off blocking man. Not an honest poster. Waste of time.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,015 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    Well that's a political appointment which is fine. Why were SF complaining when they clearly understand how a political appointment works?

    Conflict of interest?


  • Registered Users Posts: 27,038 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    You flagged this by posting a newspaper article about it from the time the appointment was made 'Transparency' rant blown out of the window.

    Where in the process for this body is the requirement to advertise for the position - can you post advertisements from others (i.e. SDLP - DUP)

    You are missing the point completely.

    Appointments made by FF/FG/Green government: transparency through state boards .ie

    Appointments made by SF under the Stormont government: cronyism

    Simple as that.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,015 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    blanch152 wrote: »
    You are missing the point completely.

    Appointments made by FF/FG/Green government: transparency through state boards .ie

    Appointments made by SF under the Stormont government: cronyism

    Simple as that.

    This makes absolutely no sense.
    You were looking for dirt and there wasn't any. DUP and SDLP are doing same because that's how these positions are filled.
    Embarrassing.


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,937 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    I see Stanno piping up again on funerals.

    The usual whataboutery waffle.

    Didn’t take him long to come back out from under the slate.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,650 ✭✭✭✭maccored


    smurgen wrote: »
    Better off blocking man. Not an honest poster. Waste of time.

    far too entertaining


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,650 ✭✭✭✭maccored


    I see Stanno piping up again on funerals.

    The usual whataboutery waffle.

    Didn’t take him long to come back out from under the slate.

    so what whataboutery are you accusing 'Stanno' of 'piping up' about? He makes valid points and he was answering a question that was put to him:
    Speaking to reporters this morning, Stanley was asked about last week’s funeral in Derry of well-known republican Eamon McCourt at which the PSNI said “a significant” number of people gathered for the cortege.

    The Laois-Offaly TD said the individual “was obviously held in high esteem in the community” and that although people needed to abide by the rules it is difficult to stop people turning out.

    “I haven’t seen the footage, and lots of people turned out, we can’t stop people from turning onto the sidewalk to pay their respects to a funeral cortege that is passing by, but the rules are the rules,” he said.


    “there have been a lot of large funerals on this island, we had the unfortunate situation last year of the Detective Garda losing his life and there was some footage of that funeral as well that did show hundreds of hundreds of people as well in the cortege behind it.That’s because the person who died is held in high-esteem, the garda that was killed in that incident in Castlerea, so you understand that people want to pay their respects, that’s important. But it’s also important that we uphold the rules. “

    If you are just going to make post to try and rile people up - make better posts.


  • Registered Users Posts: 66,308 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    blanch152 wrote: »
    You are missing the point completely.

    Appointments made by FF/FG/Green government: transparency through state boards .ie

    Appointments made by SF under the Stormont government: cronyism

    Simple as that.

    A few questions you STILL haven't answered:


    Can you show how the SDLP, SF and The DUP and who ever else made appointments broke the rules here. The rules set down by the GFA which was an agreement between the UK and Irish Government.

    Why is she completely unsuitable for public office?


  • Registered Users Posts: 66,308 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    maccored wrote: »
    so what whataboutery are you accusing 'Stanno' of 'piping up' about? He makes valid points and he was answering a question that was put to him:



    If you are just going to make post to try and rile people up - make better posts.

    The Great Silence:

    A sample of what is being openly encouraged on funeral notices all over the country:

    The community of neighbours and friends are welcome to pay their final tribute to xxxxxx by lining the route in a socially distanced manner as her remains are brought from her residence at xxxxxxxx House to xxxxxxx Church, xxxxxxxx for 11.00am Requiem mass on Thursday, 4th February 2021.

    Seems it's ok to line the route and follow the hearse as long as you aren't a Shinner.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 504 ✭✭✭a very cool kid


    The Great Silence:

    A sample of what is being openly encouraged on funeral notices all over the country:

    The community of neighbours and friends are welcome to pay their final tribute to xxxxxx by lining the route in a socially distanced manner as her remains are brought from her residence at xxxxxxxx House to xxxxxxx Church, xxxxxxxx for 11.00am Requiem mass on Thursday, 4th February 2021.

    Seems it's ok to line the route and follow the hearse as long as you aren't a Shinner.

    Where does it say follow the hearse there? You're allowed stand at the side of the road spaced out from everyone else.


  • Registered Users Posts: 66,308 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Where does it say follow the hearse there? You're allowed stand at the side of the road spaced out from everyone else.

    Where is it said in the restrictions on funerals that you 'are allowed to line the route' you aren't, but yet it is happening all over the country as is walking behind the hearse. But only of concern when it is suspected the dastardly Shinners do it.


    LEVEL 5 restrictions
    The inclement weather we have at this time of year can result in those lining funeral routes at times congregating in doorways of churches and other areas along the route to seek shelter. Every contact increases the risk of transmission of this highly contagious virus. Those wishing to express their condolence should do so through social media, online websites, text or card.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,308 ✭✭✭nigeldaniel


    The Stormont assembly [Now named The Northern Ireland assembly to keep the Stormont word out for it as to keep Sf happy] was set up to placify and stroke egos. The fact that Sf threw a wobbler at the idea of the largest party in government in the first place and got what we now have, a mish-mash of unworkable joint government is hardly anything but cronyism on a grand scale, for both sides I'd admit. Claiming paychecks and expenses on a grand scale while not really caring much for getting things done is all I see when I look north.

    Dan.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 18,937 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Where is it said in the restrictions on funerals that you 'are allowed to line the route' you aren't, but yet it is happening all over the country as is walking behind the hearse. But only of concern when it is suspected the dastardly Shinners do it.


    LEVEL 5 restrictions

    https://www.independent.ie/news/sinn-feins-stanley-compares-covid-breaches-at-republican-funerals-to-hundreds-in-cortege-of-slain-garda-40042117.html


    The black and whites are back!


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