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  • 21-10-2008 9:26pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 39,478 ✭✭✭✭KevIRL


    Any new DJ's or producers feel free to post here for help or advice....


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  • Registered Users Posts: 911 ✭✭✭engrish?


    How do you find new music? This forum has been great so far but I am craving more and more. Sifting through youtube can give great rewards sometimes as can buying random cd's but is there any obvious ways that I am missing?

    Also, how do you organise your music? If you buy and album, how do you remember the tracks you loved and the tracks there were just worthless album filler?

    Take Mario Piccatto - Now And Then, this album is mostly filler but the remix of Ibiza Angel is excellent. I listen to music mostly during my commute and in the gym. I might listen to an entire album and find one song I adore. I look at the title and then when I go back to listen to it the next morning I have forgotten it, of course you have to listen to the first 90 seconds if it has a long intro!

    Thanks!


  • Subscribers Posts: 8,322 ✭✭✭Scubadevils


    I find new music through a combination of a handful of sites really. These are mainly the following -

    www.boomkat.com

    www.discogs.com

    www.warpmart.com

    www.last.fm

    www.amazon.co.uk (an obvious one but a regular for me too)

    I would usually start on the first above; boomkat and check their new releases, recommended etc and have a listen to the clips of the tracks. From there then I might check Discogs to see if I can find out more about the artist, what other releases they might have, reviews from other Discogs users etc.

    http://www.boomkat.com/cd/

    http://www.boomkat.com/recommended/index.cfm?recommend=albums&only=cd

    Lets say I was starting from scratch and visited boomkat for the first time and looked up 'Murcof' for example. This is what I would get on Boomkat search results -

    http://www.boomkat.com/search.cfm?q=murcof&commit=Search

    You can see then on that search all of the CD, vinyl and digital releases available from that artist and if you select one, you then get the following -

    http://www.boomkat.com/item.cfm?id=7320

    So along with a generally quite detailed review, you also get other releases from the same artist, same label and details of albums bought by other people who also bought this same release. You can also listen to decent length previews of some tracks on the release.

    Then I might check discogs for some further detail, and when you search for 'Murcof' on Discogs you get the following -

    http://www.discogs.com/artist/Murcof

    From there I can look at other releases, labels he has been on, mixes he may feature on, production work etc etc. Then obviously to look at the album info that you had already looked at on Boomkat originally -

    http://www.discogs.com/release/40681

    Having read users ratings of this release on Discogs, positive reviews and also some detail on Boomkat, I may then check what price the same release is on Amazon or possibly Warpmart before making my purchase!

    Next then is a never-ending quest for more music because quite literally, once you start this process it never ends :) Why? - I get this album in the post a few days later and love it. I then buy more of his albums and love them too so decide to look further into the label he is on, Leaf and when I search Discogs for the label, I find the following -

    http://www.discogs.com/label/Leaf

    I look through all of the listings, check out the labels homepage or any other links that might be there and end up reading more on say Susumu Yokota, may have been a random choice but thats the pleasure of it all!

    http://www.discogs.com/artist/Susumu+Yokota

    I look through his releases and find a 'Best Of' that sounds interesting so I go search on Boomkat for Susumu Yokota -

    http://www.boomkat.com/search.cfm?q=susumu+yokota

    And then find the release I saw on Discogs -

    http://www.boomkat.com/item.cfm?id=53366

    The above example doesn't have clips but you do get a review and again more detail for related albums, artists, labels and what other people bought that also bought that album.

    In addition to all of the above, I would also frequently check out www.last.fm and look up different artists, have a listen to tracks if they are there and also see who else is listening to them and what other music they like. So using the Susumu Yokota example again -

    http://www.last.fm/search?m=all&q=susumu+yokota

    The first result is the one I want, so when you click that, you get the following -

    http://www.last.fm/music/Susumu+Yokota

    And again here you get to read up on various releases, his profile, listen to some songs, read about similar artists, youtube links etc etc.

    I reckon you get my drift at this stage! - In doing this you really do educate yourself to music and find some really amazing gems that you may have never discovered otherwise. It is seriously addictive & expensive, but also seriously rewarding and to my mind the best way to spend free time on the world-wide-web :pac:

    In terms of organizing, I have my CD's arranged by genre and then a separate section for recent purchases, say the last month or so worth which I may listen to more frequently until the next month. I chose then every night the selection for the car the next day which tends to end up being about 10 albums ranging from ambient to techno to allow for various moods which traffic can play a huge part in! I would then pick a few when I get home for evening listens and finally an ambient album to fall asleep to... all very structured and anorak like but what can you do :D

    I'm not even going to start on vinyl now as that has had me near bankrupt, divorced and homeless too many times now but a similar system exists!

    Wow, thats one of my longer posts :pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 668 ✭✭✭FLYNN-DOG


    I find this helpful - Go to beatport.com and search for an artist you love.ie. Mauro Picotto and search for his chart - it will give you his top 10 tunes from the last month (or so) so youll prob get stuff like daniele papini, adam beyer, paco osuna etc - basically stuff similiar to MP


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭HouseHippo


    Any good, cheap Vinyl shops wiuth indie, electro rock stuff. Need to widen my collection


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 48 HFXOC


    Need a bit of advice lads- nephew into mixes etc and was hoping to get him some equip - twin cd and mixer- any advice

    cheers


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭HouseHippo


    Try Thomann.de, much cheaper than sounds around etc. Pioneer is the best bet for both mixers and CD-J's I find technics are good for Vinyl.

    I'm not sure about Dual cd decks I think you are better of buying 2 seperate, it's better for mixes in the long run also some sowftware like Traktor is quite useful.Make sure you get a mixer with 4 or more inputs for both phono and line.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4 endawaldron


    Hi All..

    I've been playing for quite a while now... mainly parties and private functions (30th's etc..) but am looking to get a regular gig in central Dub.

    I don't necessarily have to play the same night every week or the same venue for that matter.

    I'm using Traktor with my macbook with the Vestax VCI 100 so its pretty portable and can pretty much play anywhere.

    I prefer to play House / Tech House but can play decent chart / indie / hip-hop depending on the venue / crowd etc...

    Does anyone have any idea how to go about approaching bars / clubs? I have a couple of mixes burnt that I can also upload...


  • Registered Users Posts: 8 markoconnor


    hi guys not sure if i'm in the right place maybe you can help me. i was wondering how and what do i need to plug my ipod into my mixing desk. i play the guitar and sing in pubs and clubs and before i start or when i'm taking a break i would like to have some music on, someone had told me that its possible to do it with an ipod.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 382 ✭✭acman


    hi guys not sure if i'm in the right place maybe you can help me. i was wondering how and what do i need to plug my ipod into my mixing desk. i play the guitar and sing in pubs and clubs and before i start or when i'm taking a break i would like to have some music on, someone had told me that its possible to do it with an ipod.

    Hi there!
    You need something like this mate (An IPOD to RCA cable):

    http://www.thenerds.net/index.php?page=imageviewer&id=551

    IPOD connector goes to your ipod and the two RCA's go to the back of your mixer.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3 jack80


    Hi, I am thinking of getting into DJ-ing for 21sts, 30ths, weddings etc. Just wondering if you have any advice on where to get equipment, which equipment is best etc. I was looking at the following set
    http://cgi.ebay.ie/DJ-Equipment-Disco-1200W-Package-Speakers-Amps-Numark_W0QQitemZ160260369126QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Mixers?hash=item160260369126&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1300%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318
    just wondering if this seems good price, quality etc
    Cheers


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,111 ✭✭✭joker77


    Howdy - I'm new enough to the digital aspect of mixing, and have recently been using Traktor.

    Can anyone recommend a hardward controller to go with it?

    Cheers


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭HouseHippo


    hi guys not sure if i'm in the right place maybe you can help me. i was wondering how and what do i need to plug my ipod into my mixing desk. i play the guitar and sing in pubs and clubs and before i start or when i'm taking a break i would like to have some music on, someone had told me that its possible to do it with an ipod.
    Hey.Yes you can definitely connect any MP3 to a mixing desk as long as you have the right lead, which any sound engineer nworth their salt would have. Just tell the engineer you ahve music you would like him to play, he should be fine with it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,960 ✭✭✭DarkJager


    Well lads, was wondering if someone would have a listen to some of my mixes (they're in the link in my sig) and give a bit of feedback? :) I'm not sure what I'd class them as, I was aiming for trance ;), but any thoughts good or bad are welcome.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8 markoconnor


    thanks lads got the leads will try them out this evening


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4 endawaldron


    Can anyone recommend a hardward controller to go with it?

    I would defo recommend a Vestax VC100 midi controller... EXCELLENT.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,111 ✭✭✭joker77


    Can anyone recommend a hardward controller to go with it?

    I would defo recommend a Vestax VC100 midi controller... EXCELLENT.
    Cheers - do you use this on it's own or with software? (I'd be looking to use it with Traktor)

    It looks the biz to be fair - not cheap though @ 345 Sterling on hard to find .com


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,825 ✭✭✭Mikeyt086


    Hows it goin lads, im a bit of a noob when it comes to DJing, but i would like to get started out, first things first, i need help buying my equipment.

    I just want a little station where i can mix and scratch CD's, really basic, nothing too fancy, and not too expensive either, in the €250 range. Are there specialised shops or can i get kit in Argos, Harvey Norman etc.

    Sorry if my q's are rediculous but i really dont know much. Im not looking to play any huge gigs, just love the idea of mixing and **** in my room.

    Cheers for any help.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7 DeusEx


    Hi all. I'm new to DJing and was thinking of getting a controller for use with Virtual DJ or Trakor software and a laptop. I was wondering what is a good controller to start off with (within the 200-300 range).

    I was looking at the Behringer BCD3000 - has anybody used this? If so how does it perform?


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,672 ✭✭✭seannash


    DeusEx wrote: »
    Hi all. I'm new to DJing and was thinking of getting a controller for use with Virtual DJ or Trakor software and a laptop. I was wondering what is a good controller to start off with (within the 200-300 range).

    I was looking at the Behringer BCD3000 - has anybody used this? If so how does it perform?

    http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/UC33e

    alot of people use this one


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7 DeusEx


    seannash wrote: »

    Thank you I will look into it. I have a M-Audio MIDI Keyboard which has served me well. The Behringer BCD 3000 looks good for the price (2 decks, ability to scratch etc.) but from what I read online I'm apprehensive about it's reliability.

    Is a laptop and a controller the way to go? Or should I be looking at Decks and something like a Kaoss Pad?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,672 ✭✭✭seannash


    DeusEx wrote: »
    Thank you I will look into it. I have a M-Audio MIDI Keyboard which has served me well. The Behringer BCD 3000 looks good for the price (2 decks, ability to scratch etc.) but from what I read online I'm apprehensive about it's reliability.

    Is a laptop and a controller the way to go? Or should I be looking at Decks and something like a Kaoss Pad?

    totally up to you mate,im cdjs myself,i didnt like doing it on a laptop when i tried it so i went back.but if you dont know what your missing how will you miss it,meaning if youve never used cdjs or vinyl and choose the digital route,that will be what djing is to you


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7 DeusEx


    seannash wrote: »
    totally up to you mate,im cdjs myself,i didnt like doing it on a laptop when i tried it so i went back.but if you dont know what your missing how will you miss it,meaning if youve never used cdjs or vinyl and choose the digital route,that will be what djing is to you

    Thanks for all the advice. I'll probably go the digital way as it's the most feasible and I have some experience with music software. I would be interesting in using the full works someday though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 28 djlor


    new to djin....workin with established guy, access to all music...just hopin for few suggestions of songs suitable for pubs??mainly chart or major hits from times gone by. audience has no interest in anythin techno-ish or house....thanks in advance:):D;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,339 ✭✭✭✭tman


    Does anybody have links to decent Ableton tutorials? (for DJing)
    Must've watched 10 of the damn things already and not one of them showed you how to actually start the second tune playing at a particular point.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,339 ✭✭✭✭tman


    Ignore the above post, amazed it took me so bloody long to figure it out:o


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,178 ✭✭✭thirtythirty


    engrish? wrote: »
    How do you find new music? This forum has been great so far but I am craving more and more. Sifting through youtube can give great rewards sometimes as can buying random cd's but is there any obvious ways that I am missing?

    http://www.bodytonicmusic.com/

    Or buy Mixmag.
    engrish? wrote: »
    Also, how do you organise your music? If you buy and album, how do you remember the tracks you loved and the tracks there were just worthless album filler?

    If you like something on your ipod - put a dash infront of the track name
    e.g.

    TrackName 1
    --TrackName 2
    TrackName 3
    TrackName 4
    --TrackName 4
    engrish? wrote: »
    Take Mario Piccatto - Now And Then, this album is mostly filler but the remix of Ibiza Angel is excellent. I listen to music mostly during my commute and in the gym. I might listen to an entire album and find one song I adore. I look at the title and then when I go back to listen to it the next morning I have forgotten it, of course you have to listen to the first 90 seconds if it has a long intro!

    I'm gonna put you're age at about 15 - 17....!?


  • Registered Users Posts: 17 leno1979


    Hi all, recently got a cracked version of logic pro8 for my mac but have virtually no experience in production but mad to get into it,at the moment though i cant really afford the thousand euro price tag many of the places in town are charging,(music centre in temple bar for 3 courses!!!!:confused:) so has anyone the knowledge to show me the basics while earning themselves a few quid for their time. I live in nth county dublin and can travel anywhere pretty much in the dublin region....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 176 ✭✭Noviceman


    Hi,

    Can anyone recommend some good free DJ software for a newby.

    Thanks.


  • Registered Users Posts: 300 ✭✭Tomas_S


    Hi anyone there with help to start playin music in clubs? Im lookin to start with warm ups etc. Anybody?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,456 ✭✭✭Jev/N


    Tomas_S wrote: »
    Hi anyone there with help to start playin music in clubs? Im lookin to start with warm ups etc. Anybody?

    Go to the nights you want to play, get to know the promoters, help out with anything you can and give them mixes


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