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Would you buy a house near a halting site?

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    #62
    fg1406
    Registered Users Posts: 433 ✭✭fg1406


    Not a hope. I rented near one a few years ago. There are new houses being built near it now. Council houses at that. The travellers from the halting site have burnt out the houses that are being built. They’ve had their horses seized and caused a 2 day riot. Their kids are feral too.


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    #63
    Corruptedmorals
    Registered Users Posts: 4,194 ✭✭✭Corruptedmorals


    I wouldn't, I'd find it very intimidating even if they largely kept themselves to themselves.

    One of the newer estates in Maynooth, Carton Wood I think, when it was being advertised with a stylised map they stuck the logo over the halting site across the road from the estate. Very unfair thing to do although it does appear to be fairly quiet and it's not immediately obvious when driving by.


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    #64
    MSVforever
    Registered Users Posts: 590 ✭✭✭MSVforever


    Nope. It's enough to see when passing by one of their sites. No regard for their own environment.


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    #65
    Heres Johnny
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,738 ✭✭✭Heres Johnny


    Thread doesn't need a poll


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    #66
    katiek102010
    Registered Users Posts: 1,105 ✭✭✭katiek102010


    Tbh it wouldn't bother me. Lived about 200 yards from one in UK and had 2 lots of travellers living 6 and 8 doors up from me.

    No one came near the estate. Honestly I think if anyone tried they would have got a hiding. The travellers knew they would get blamed


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    #67
    joeguevara
    Registered Users Posts: 7,993 ✭✭✭joeguevara


    Question is a bit vague..

    Firstly how near are we taking about? Directly opposite or half a mile away?

    Also is it an illegal site with burned out cars, sulky racing or a well kept group of chalets.

    Are you considering it or is it a hypothetical? If the latter why care? If the former then go with your gut.


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    #68
    freshpopcorn
    Registered Users Posts: 30,183 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    Question is kind of hard to answer.
    It would depend on how near!
    Take for instance in most regional towns in my experience you are only a few minutes away from one really.
    Also, what do you consider a halting site. A traditional one with lots of Caravans or where travellers are housed sometimes very closely together.


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    Anjunadeep
    Registered Users Posts: 221 ✭✭Anjunadeep


    If by near you mean like 10 miles away, I would consider it assuming of course the house was given to me for free and surrounded by a moat


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    FrankPoll.
    Closed Accounts Posts: 57 ✭✭FrankPoll.


    Anjunadeep wrote: »
    If by near you mean like 10 miles away, I would consider it assuming of course the house was given to me for free and surrounded by a moat

    I'm sure they'd tolerate you living closer

    You can't be that bad


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    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    Anjunadeep wrote: »
    If by near you mean like 10 miles away, I would consider it assuming of course the house was given to me for free and surrounded by a moat

    Why are they afraid of water?


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    #72
    pol12
    Registered Users Posts: 26 ✭pol12


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Travellers used to work for farmers and make items out of tin for sale, hence the term "tinker", which wasn't a pejorative term originally. Back in the day and were a respected part of rural Ireland. Then the dole came in and they went from being valued to valueless with nothing to. Do except sit round, drink, make babies and get up to no good.

    Some sort of education or work for long term welfare would be a much better alternative for travellers, or indeed all long term unemployed. Coupled with actual law enforcement.

    We also need to give decent travellers a chance at employment and being full members of society.

    If everyone followed the traveller principles it would make our life's easier.
    Most of the population in Ireland are originally from a farming background, maybe some would have to go back a few generations but that's where our culture mostly lies. So farming doesn't support multiple people but let's all sit around the farm all day and get the government to pay for our culture.


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    #73
    starbaby2003
    Registered Users Posts: 664 ✭✭✭starbaby2003


    JizzBeans wrote: »
    I frequently hear that estate agents find it difficult to sell houses close to halting site, within a 1-2km that is. Re sale value is non virtually existent. If something better comes along after say five years, one should expect to loose money I suppose
    I call bull**** on that. Probe Square houses are selling for close to a million. St Louises Park Blackrock is about 400m from it.


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    #74
    REFLINE1
    Registered Users Posts: 375 ✭✭REFLINE1


    hasnt stopped new estates in carrickmines and rathfarnham selling recently


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    #75
    MichaelR
    Registered Users Posts: 801 ✭✭✭MichaelR


    I live across a hurling field from an estate that has many settled Traveller families.

    Their reputation is very much not great but so far (4 years) we only had a few problems with the kids, even those seem to have stopped. (Worst was a money theft but we let the kid in; also a small kids bike was stolen, it was unlocked at the front of the house, and the reason we treated it so carelessly is that it was not worth much anymore). There was some unpleasant stuff about their kids and mine, nothing huge and now they just seem to ignore each other. (Caveat: my kids don't go to the local school, for reasons unrelated, as they were already settled in a school before we moved here. I hear bad rumours about some behaviour in the local school).

    Never had any grief from the adults so far, and we're even immigrants (though white). I hear one of them might have a gun, but as it was never pulled in my presence, I would not know.

    Then again I have not seen any fancy new cars etc around their estate, so maybe they're just not "that kind". There were horses on a grass field all right. Lovely horses, I really enjoyed the sight. The people also used to ride around in carts and sulkies, but seemed, as far as I could see, to treat the horses fairly. The horses disappeared one day, then a few months later a building site came up - so I guess they were tipped off about the building plans.

    I do know some others do not treat horses well. I saw a group of kids in Limerick City ride a pony cart on the road and they were harsh to the pony and made it gallop. Poor pony, and they were risking their own lives too with a semi-uncontrollable cart on the road with cars, not to mention breaking the law (you have to be 16 to control a horse on the road unaccompanied).


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    Grolschevik
    Registered Users Posts: 3,472 ✭✭✭Grolschevik


    I grew up (ten plus years) near a site, maybe 300 yards away. Backed onto a field that their site (mobiles and chalets) was in the corner of. No crime or antisocial behaviour to speak of, and any that there was could not be unequivocally attributed to the Travellers rather than one of the estates nearby. South county Dublin.


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    Markcheese
    Registered Users Posts: 8,428 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    I suppose its like anything else, would you buy next to a dodgy estate, or would you buy a house next to dodgy neighbours? In an estate or stand alone / rural?
    I know of people who really don't get on with their neighbouring farmers...
    If there's a halting site next to where you're looking to buy, and you barely notice it, then it's probably not causing a problem...

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



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    AndrewJRenko
    Registered Users Posts: 28,364 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    I've lived less than a kilometre by road from a small halting site in south Dublin, less than 500m as the crow flies, for more than twenty years. I'd regularly pass within 100m of the site entrance. I've noticed one incident of mild anti-social behaviour by teenagers who appeared to be travellers in that time. I've heard some of the neighbours to the site had issues with littering. It doesn't seem to have any effect of the boomy house/apartment prices in the area.


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    Eric Cartman
    Registered Users Posts: 26,283 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    2km from one minimum. It or a council estate nearby would be the biggest things to avoid.


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    starbaby2003
    Registered Users Posts: 664 ✭✭✭starbaby2003


    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    2km from one minimum. It or a council estate nearby would be the biggest things to avoid.
    I see you are never buying a house in Dublin City then ...


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    Eric Cartman
    Registered Users Posts: 26,283 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    starbaby2003 wrote: »
    I see you are never buying a house in Dublin City then ...

    yeah, wouldnt be for me, a nice one off in an acre or 3 and nowhere near any of those types.


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    AndrewJRenko
    Registered Users Posts: 28,364 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    2km from one minimum. It or a council estate nearby would be the biggest things to avoid.
    Yeah, funnily enough, there is a small Council development, maybe 15 houses between me and the halting site - no issues from that either.


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    the_syco
    Registered Users Posts: 37,295 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    starbaby2003 wrote: »
    I see you are never buying a house in Dublin City then ...
    Preferably, no. And heck, if the travellers take a liking to your land, they'll camp on your land. Not much you can say about it if you don't want your house burnt to the ground.


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    #84
    AndrewJRenko
    Registered Users Posts: 28,364 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    the_syco wrote: »
    Preferably, no. And heck, if the travellers take a liking to your land, they'll camp on your land. Not much you can say about it if you don't want your house burnt to the ground.

    Does that happen much - that travellers burn down people's houses after taking over their land?


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