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16-04-2019, 01:26   #496
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Check the name of the speaker, google who he is and tell us something about him, what he might be famous for

I know who he is btw. Thanks ....
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16-04-2019, 01:31   #497
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Presume much?

I know who he is btw. Thanks ....
Sorry if I got you wrong, just a lot of agenda stuff tonight it's hard to tell
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A small Allahu Akbar gang knocked a bit of craic out of it anyway

Oh for god's sake this is an obvious hoax.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article...UYM6O19rOgvH1I

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30 million insurance payout and it was to go again

Tis strange Notre Dame burned the day no workers were there and all the copper statues were removed from the roof - works in mysterious ways n stuff
Conspiracy theories already?

I'm sure there were hundreds of other treasures in the cathedral that just went up in smoke.
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At least the first donations for rebuilding Notre-Dame are coming in.
Pinault, one of the richest men in France, already promised 100 million Euros.

The Fondation du patrimoine (French heritage foundation) set up an international donation account: https://twitter.com/fond_patrimoine
https://don.fondation-patrimoine.org...eDame/~mon-don

There will be European money, of course, it's after all not only a World Heritage Site but a European symbol like no other. There seems to be already talk in Germany to set up a fund.

I'm sure money won't be a problem to rebuilt this jewel eventually. And trust the French that they won't allow it to be an "investor's project".

I dare to dream that this disaster might bring a torn nation together again. Always the optimist....
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And that's not what I said...

You didn't say anything?
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You didn't say anything?
Exactly. Except to make an exclamation of the interview by Fox!

You seemed to interpret that as somehow voting for the interviewee!

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You seemed to interpret that as somehow voting for the interviewee!
Or I was referring to the fact he was being interviewed in the first place.
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Or I was referring to the fact he was being interviewed in the first place.
My point! Fox shut him down fairly quickly one way or the other!

I never knew Fox to be so discerning tbh.
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Conspiracy theories already?

I'm sure there were hundreds of other treasures in the cathedral that just went up in smoke.
It was in ribbons :


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An insight as to its disrepair.
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Conspiracy theories already?
With the following news stories we will have to excuse them tbh lol ...

4 days ago ...

https://www.thejournal.ie/france-jai...90216-Apr2019/

Today ...

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...w-9-11-attacks

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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At least the first donations for rebuilding Notre-Dame are coming in.
Pinault, one of the richest men in France, already promised 100 million Euros.

The Fondation du patrimoine (French heritage foundation) set up an international donation account: https://twitter.com/fond_patrimoine
https://don.fondation-patrimoine.org...eDame/~mon-don

There will be European money, of course, it's after all not only a World Heritage Site but a European symbol like no other. There seems to be already talk in Germany to set up a fund.

I'm sure money won't be a problem to rebuilt this jewel eventually. And trust the French that they won't allow it to be an "investor's project".

I dare to dream that this disaster might bring a torn nation together again. Always the optimist....
According to a few news reports, there also was a lot of American donations in the past to French heritage projects.
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Looks like they got off lucky.



The French don't seem to have any suitable helicopters, looking at the list of Securite Civile inventory. They have fixed wing bombers which are certainly inappropriate.

There is a medium in between the SC's Ecureils and EC-145s which have basically no firefighting ability at all, and their fixed-wing water-bomber fleet, examples include Los Angeles' vetical drop Firehawks or Tokyo Fire Dept's cannon-equipped EC-225s. SC doesn't have that medium.

So, yes, the SC are correct to not be using their water bomber fleet. But as a major city with a number of buildings which ladder trucks can't get to, are they correct not to be having the middle ground, or is it just a budget thing? The reason FDNY had their firefighter helicopter request denied was simple dollars, not because it was a bad idea.
Yes, I didn't understand why people jumped so fast to criticise Trump suggesting flying water tankers. He may have gotten the lingo incorrect but surely there is some kind of smaller airborne fire fighting tech that could have been used if they had it?
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Yes, I didn't understand why people jumped so fast to criticise Trump suggesting flying water tankers. He may have gotten the lingo incorrect but surely there is some kind of smaller airborne fire fighting tech that could have been used if they had it?
Correct me if I am wrong but surely a hovering helicopter would hugely fan the flames in a contained fire such as the one we saw?
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Sad to see such a beautiful and historic building destroyed. Who knows how many works of art of have been lost.

I was lucky enough to be able to visit Notre Dame when I was in Paris in my early twenties. It was truly spectacular. I climbed one of the bell towers and the view was breathtaking. One of my favorite photos I took is of a stone gargoyle looking out over the city.

One can only hope it was accidental and not deliberate or as the result of negligence.

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