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UFC 189 - McGregor v Mendes *READ MOD WARNING IN 1st POST*

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  • #92
    That_Guy
    Registered Users Posts: 51,342 ✭✭✭✭That_Guy


    Glade87 wrote: »
    Interim title??? Really? I feel they should have made the Diaz fight... Mendes is a boring fighter and he has clearly stated his intentions... Put McGregor on his back (which he will succeed in doing) and keep him there... FOR 5 ROUNDS.

    Diaz had his chance to be on this card against Matt Brown and bailed on it. Why should he suddenly be given Conor at lightweight?

    The interim title is a bit of a nonsense but they have to appease travelling fans who were scheduled to see a 5 round fight.

    As someone travelling over, I'm happy that it's a potential 5 rounder. I do think it's a bit mental having an interim title headline over an actual title being contested at welterweight.

    But that's the UFC. It's their job to sell fights/fighters. Conor's done most of the leg work in promoting the previous fight. They've got lucky in that there was the makings of a beef in the undercurrent with Mendes so we go again with the thrash talking etc.

    As for Mendes being a boring fighter, I can't honestly see why you're saying that. He was involved in an absolute dog fight with Aldo in their second fight and blitzed Lamas in April.

    I don't think it's as exciting as Aldo/McGregor but it will hopefully silence the doubters who say he hasn't fought a wrestler.

    The build up is hard to get into right now but come fight night, I'll be yelling my lungs out.


  • #93
    Gabriel Young Bassoon
    Posts: 0 ✭ Gabriel Young Bassoon


    Is Mcgregor fight still happening after Lawler v Macdonald surely the real title fight in a heavier division should go last?


  • #94
    Zero-Cool
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    The majority of people watching this will be to either watch Conor win or lose. He's the main draw so gets the main slot. UFC rewards those that makes them money and rightfully so.

    That cryo chamber thing Chad went into in latest Embedded looked crazy. Was that top help with the weight cut?


  • #95
    Beersmith
    Registered Users Posts: 1,391 ✭✭✭Beersmith


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Is Mcgregor fight still happening after Lawler v Macdonald surely the real title fight in a heavier division should go last?

    Why should a heavier one go last? Its usually the case but that because fans are generally more interested in the heavier fighters, not so in this case


  • #96
    CatFromHue
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,134 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatFromHue


    sheehy83 wrote: »
    That cryo chamber thing Chad went into in latest Embedded looked crazy. Was that top help with the weight cut?

    Don't think so.

    As far as i know it helps you in post workout recovery, it's just an extreme ice bath after a workout.

    The Irish rugby team used to do it and the Welsh team still do it now.


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  • #97
    Depp
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    Yeah its just for recovery, when youre in it all the blood rushes to your internal organs and then when you return to normal temperature all the blood rushes to your extremities, supposed to work wonders for recovery of small injuries.


  • #98
    Gabriel Young Bassoon
    Posts: 0 ✭ Gabriel Young Bassoon


    Beersmith wrote: »
    Why should a heavier one go last? Its usually the case but that because fans are generally more interested in the heavier fighters, not so in this case

    Cause its for a real belt and not an interm?


  • #99
    cletus
    Registered Users Posts: 7,858 ✭✭✭cletus


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Cause its for a real belt and not an interm?

    A good chunk of the reason for the interim belt is to keep macgregor in a title fight and therefor headlining


  • #100
    moneyman
    Registered Users Posts: 1,337 ✭✭✭moneyman


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Cause its for a real belt and not an interm?

    Fair enough but you shouldn't have specified "heavier" in that case.

    I agree btw that 99% the heavier weight classes get top billing, but as pointed out, it's because there's usually more interest. Not in this case. Conor/Mendes is the main event.

    Aldo is still obviously the champion, I don't think anyone will really argue that bar Conor/Chad, and the winner will have to face him next anyway. Not a big deal.


  • #101
    Gabriel Young Bassoon
    Posts: 0 ✭ Gabriel Young Bassoon


    moneyman wrote: »
    Fair enough but you shouldn't have specified "heavier" in that case.

    I agree btw that 99% the heavier weight classes get top billing, but as pointed out, it's because there's usually more interest. Not in this case. Conor/Mendes is the main event.

    Aldo is still obviously the champion, I don't think anyone will really argue that bar Conor/Chad, and the winner will have to face him next anyway. Not a big deal.

    No I know the majority of people have more interest in the Conor fight but I thought it would be the second last fight now cause its now for the interm belt in a lighter division. Can't wait though 1 week from today :D


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  • #102
    Beersmith
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    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Cause its for a real belt and not an interm?

    Yeah id agree with you about the interim v real part but i was talking about the weight class not being a factor


  • #103
    moneyman
    Registered Users Posts: 1,337 ✭✭✭moneyman


    Deleted User wrote: »
    No I know the majority of people have more interest in the Conor fight but I thought it would be the second last fight now cause its now for the interm belt in a lighter division. Can't wait though 1 week from today :D

    Interim belt is just a way to make Conor main event because that's what 99% of fans want, everyone knows Aldo is the real champion though. Can't wait also, extremely nervous. Mendes is a beast, I'm back and fourth on who I think will win. I think Conor is too big and his striking too precise, I think he can hurt Mendes. And his belief is unshakeable. But I wouldn't be surprised with either outcome. Let's hope Conor does it! :)


  • #104
    Letree
    Registered Users Posts: 1,005 ✭✭✭Letree


    welchywelch wrote: »
    It's difficult to judge who has a harder punch unless you're on the receiving end of a few anyway. It's all about connection/accuracy. A fairly weak puch on the chin could put you asleep, a haymaker to the jaw might not budge you.

    Its deceptive when someones movement is very fluid and efficient. Consider a golf example. You will often hear amateurs telling other golfers to swing easy like Ernie Els. They only think Ernie swings easy. He actually swings the club very fast, up to 120mph but he is so efficient he looks like he is swinging very slow. I think conor is like that. Very efficient and fluid.


  • #105
    Dtp1979
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    Depp wrote: »
    Yeah its just for recovery, when youre in it all the blood rushes to your internal organs and then when you return to normal temperature all the blood rushes to your extremities, supposed to work wonders for recovery of small injuries.

    OH MY GOD CHAD MENDES IS INJURIED???? lol


  • #106
    Dtp1979
    Registered Users Posts: 12,716 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    I'd say mcgregor has worked on nothing but his wrestling defence and getting back to his feet since he heard also was out. 2 weeks of that will sharpen him up. Pity he hadn't a whole camp to prepare for it


  • #107
    EuskalHerria
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,273 ✭✭✭EuskalHerria


    For anyone who hasn't ordered 189, Setanta will have an offer of some sort between Monday and Thursday.


  • #108
    JustTheOne
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    Lads chill

    Conor has this

    Mini won't get near.


  • #109
    bur
    Registered Users Posts: 1,689 ✭✭✭bur


    JustTheOne wrote: »
    Lads chill

    Conor has this

    Mini won't get near.

    wow
    so analysis
    much insight


  • #110
    Gabriel Young Bassoon
    Posts: 0 ✭ Gabriel Young Bassoon


    bur wrote: »
    wow
    so analysis
    much insight

    Yeah I honestly thing anyone who says something like "Conor will do this easily" or "Mendes will run through him" are talking poo. Mendes is insanely talented and Conor has the potential maybe to be the champion but he is untested really at this level. He might come in against Mendes and knock him out or He might get submitted, no one really knows how good Conors takedown defense/ wrestling is at the minute and how it will fare against Mendes.

    I honestly think anyone who says one particular person in this fight will definitely win is wrong, this fight is wide open. Anyone can win imo


  • #111
    JustTheOne
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    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Yeah I honestly thing anyone who says something like "Conor will do this easily" or "Mendes will run through him" are talking poo. Mendes is insanely talented and Conor has the potential maybe to be the champion but he is untested really at this level. He might come in against Mendes and knock him out or He might get submitted, no one really knows how good Conors takedown defense/ wrestling is at the minute and how it will fare against Mendes.

    I honestly think anyone who says one particular person in this fight will definitely win is wrong, this fight is wide open. Anyone can win imo
    Yeah it was half tongue in cheek mate.

    It will be a great fight but just like I argued here last night with someone who quoted Mendes is the hardest hitter in the division although conor hits as hard, I no longer believe there is a serious discussion to be had.

    Roll on the fight.


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  • #112
    JustTheOne
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    bur wrote: »
    wow
    so analysis
    much insight

    Any insight yourself?


  • #113
    Gabriel Young Bassoon
    Posts: 0 ✭ Gabriel Young Bassoon


    I know this is slightly off topic but why didn't Paddy Holohan try get on this card? He came off a win in his last fight. Would have been class to have him or Duffy on it. I know Cathal got on the card but even that was a last minute thing.


  • #114
    welchywelch
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 37 ✭welchywelch


    JustTheOne wrote:
    It will be a great fight but just like I argued here last night with someone who quoted Mendes is the hardest hitter in the division although conor hits as hard, I no longer believe there is a serious discussion to be had.


    You didn't really discuss anything last night you just picked on an obvious typo!
    Tell us why you think Conor will win, How and when. I have Mendes backed to win by TKO. Hope Conor wins though.


  • #115
    John_D80
    Registered Users Posts: 3,539 ✭✭✭John_D80


    Deleted User wrote: »
    I know this is slightly off topic but why didn't Paddy Holohan try get on this card? He came off a win in his last fight. Would have been class to have him or Duffy on it. I know Cathal got on the card but even that was a last minute thing.

    He's fighting on the 18th in Glasgow. As is joe duffy


  • #116
    Gabriel Young Bassoon
    Posts: 0 ✭ Gabriel Young Bassoon


    John_D80 wrote: »
    He's fighting on the 18th in Glasgow. As is joe duffy

    Sweet, I didn't even look at that card yet. On here and Sherdog for the past month all anyone talks about is Conor :P


  • #117
    JustTheOne
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,681 ✭✭✭JustTheOne


    welchywelch wrote: »
    You didn't really discuss anything last night you just picked on an obvious typo!
    Tell us why you think Conor will win, How and when. I have Mendes backed to win by TKO. Hope Conor wins though.

    Yep fair enough

    I think 2nd round.

    Mendes won't make the distance and will gas

    Mendes will definitely take him to the ground though. But he will surprise people with his ground game

    I think it will be easier than a lot on here think.


  • #118
    bur
    Registered Users Posts: 1,689 ✭✭✭bur


    Watching a replay of Mendes/Aldo 2 on Fox, well it's more of a highlights package with footage from the camera that was on McGregor during that fight(really great video package btw). And i feel like it's the first time i've seen the real McGregor. None of the bull****, just a big kid totally entranced in a great fight.


  • #119
    Knex*
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    Man, Mendes is hard not to like.


  • #120
    JustTheOne
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    Knex. wrote: »
    Man, Mendes is hard not to like.

    Yeah I know what you mean but its not a popularity contest.


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  • #121
    welchywelch
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 37 ✭welchywelch


    JustTheOne wrote:
    Mendes won't make the distance and will gas

    JustTheOne wrote:
    Mendes will definitely take him to the ground though. But he will surprise people with his ground game


    Thats exactly what Conor said on embedded, that he would "gas". I can't see it happening, he didn't gas against Aldo in the 2nd fight, in fact Mendes was the one putting all the pressure on, it was Aldo that was looking for breathers.We have never seen Conor put under serious pressuse so whos to know he won't "gas"? think the only way it'll go to the ground is if Conor tries his big mad spinning back heel kicks. Mendes isnt the one dimensional wrestler people are making out. I think it'll be decided on weather Conor can keep him at length for the whole fight. It's going to be some battle, I can't see it being easy for either of them.


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