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The Dublin Coach Experience

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  • #1022
    devnull
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 11,582 Mod ✭✭✭✭devnull


    punisher5112 wrote: »
    They have since been getting a number of new ones and putting them on the Belfast run as they are in a huge war with the first group Aircoach.

    Indeed, they put brand new Tourismos on the Belfast route in 2017 when they launched against Aircoach and then replaced them with newer ones in 2018 and there is already talk of replacements soon.

    The kind of timetable and competition they are running against Aircoach, 5 minutes behind them from Belfast from the same stop, the same time from Dublin City, would not be allowed on a domestic Irish route.


  • #1023
    devnull
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 11,582 Mod ✭✭✭✭devnull


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    I was talking to a local bus operator last year through work, he bought a few King Longs a few years ago and has mostly good stuff to say about them, he wouldn’t be nearly as demanding on buses with his line of work as Dublin Coach, but apart from some issues with exterior lights he said they’d been fine.

    The ones I have been on, have been shocking from a passenger point of view.

    Seats clearly designed with short Chinese people in mind with terrible seat pitch, lots of tacky looking lights and leds that just look naff.


  • #1024
    punisher5112
    Registered Users Posts: 24,647 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    I was talking to a local bus operator last year through work, he bought a few King Longs a few years ago and has mostly good stuff to say about them, he wouldn’t be nearly as demanding on buses with his line of work as Dublin Coach, but apart from some issues with exterior lights he said they’d been fine.
    The one DC has is in bits.


  • #1025
    Stephen15
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,907 ✭✭✭Stephen15


    punisher5112 wrote: »
    The 1st batch were used for city tours and this brought a huge tax break with using them this way.

    They were fairly quickly taken off their tour work and replaced with 03 open tops. So much for "Luxury Sightseeing"


  • #1026
    punisher5112
    Registered Users Posts: 24,647 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    Stephen15 wrote: »
    They were fairly quickly taken off their tour work and replaced with 03 open tops. So much for "Luxury Sightseeing"

    After 12 months this was the tax break I mentioned.

    He was able to get them on the cheap then of course.

    They ran empty most of the time.


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  • #1027
    Kamili
    Registered Users Posts: 2,479 ✭✭✭Kamili


    Was this these guys?

    https://www.dublinlive.ie/live-updates-bus-bursts-huge-15723947?fbclid=IwAR2pwG96ULBF9c2j0M83nNnQkHTRgu-ckL7NPdt9HWbwFvRjBvG5vqFYeno
    Emergency services have rushed to the scene just outside the Halfway House pub a video shows huge flames engulfing the bus.

    The bus is reported to be a coach and not a Dublin Bus or Go-Ahead vehicle.


  • #1028
    punisher5112
    Registered Users Posts: 24,647 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    It was a swords express coach.


  • #1029
    BlackandGreen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 310 ✭✭BlackandGreen


    spotted another one broken down on the m9 hard shoulder the other day.
    Never travelled with them but this thread has convinced me to not consider them an option ever.


  • #1030
    finnharpsboy
    Registered Users Posts: 8,975 ✭✭✭finnharpsboy


    Another day another breakdown.... Nangor Road, just yards from the base


  • #1031
    Old diesel
    Registered Users Posts: 5,786 ✭✭✭Old diesel


    BlackandGreen wrote: »
    spotted another one broken down on the m9 hard shoulder the other day.
    Never travelled with them but this thread has convinced me to not consider them an option ever.

    THIS.....

    Someone whose only experience of private operator public transport is this crowd and a clapped out 2004 Setra will likely be anti privatisation of public bus/coach travel.

    They are unlikely to buy into the idea that a different company like Callinan, or Bernard Kavanagh could deliver quality transport options.

    Edit - going forward the challenge for public transport is showing it can be an attractive travel option for the people currently travelling in their cars.

    In this regard - Dublin Coach are not really delivering


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  • #1032
    WishUWereHere
    Registered Users Posts: 2,271 ✭✭✭WishUWereHere


    finnharpsboy wrote: »
    Another day another breakdown.... Nangor Road, just yards from the base

    Appears this breakdown is outside Diaggio, am I right? If so, litwerally on their own doorstep.

    DC are both a joke and an embarassment to public transport in Ireland.


  • #1033
    patrickc
    Registered Users Posts: 7,872 ✭✭✭patrickc


    This was on their facebook page earlier, has anyone an idea what was going on?

    Dear customers

    Due a serious incident at Red Cow, all our services are being delayed at the moment.
    Apologies for any inconvenience caused.


  • #1034
    punisher5112
    Registered Users Posts: 24,647 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    patrickc wrote: »
    This was on their facebook page earlier, has anyone an idea what was going on?

    Dear customers

    Due a serious incident at Red Cow, all our services are being delayed at the moment.
    Apologies for any inconvenience caused.
    There was a truck that lost its load which was scaffolding poles.

    Them there were crashes in places too.


  • #1035
    dhaughton99
    Registered Users Posts: 1,695 ✭✭✭dhaughton99


    patrickc wrote: »
    This was on their facebook page earlier, has anyone an idea what was going on?

    Dear customers

    Due a serious incident at Red Cow, all our services are being delayed at the moment.
    Apologies for any inconvenience caused.

    What time was that at? I walked past their depot at 10 and the Luas depot at 10:30 pm and didn’t notice anything.


  • #1036
    punisher5112
    Registered Users Posts: 24,647 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    dhaughton99 wrote: »
    What time was that at? I walked past their depot at 10 and the Luas depot at 10:30 pm and didn’t notice anything.

    See my post above, traffic was absolutely nuts, lanes closed etc..... This time it wasn't one of their buses on fire.


  • #1037
    TheQuietFella
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,857 ✭✭✭TheQuietFella


    punisher5112 wrote: »
    There was a truck that lost its load which was scaffolding poles.

    Them there were crashes in places too.


    These guys should be severely fined for this!


  • #1038
    soundman45
    Registered Users Posts: 310 ✭✭soundman45


    Talking to drivers that have worked for them it seems as a driver for Dublin Coach if you have an accident they will charge the driver €1000 to cover for damage. How on earth they get drivers to work for them I have no idea.


  • #1039
    WishUWereHere
    Registered Users Posts: 2,271 ✭✭✭WishUWereHere


    soundman45 wrote: »
    Talking to drivers that have worked for them it seems as a driver for Dublin Coach if you have an accident they will charge the driver €1000 to cover for damage. How on earth they get drivers to work for them I have no idea.

    IF the 'company' does fine their drivers a grand ( & I have no reason to doubt You OP ), this makes me wonder how the 'drivers' drive the way they do with this '€1,000 umbrella' hanging over their heads.


  • #1040
    ...__...
    Registered Users Posts: 507 ✭✭✭...__...


    141 KE King long arrived Friday all in clean white.
    Just waiting for the cans of spray paint to come through ebay before they strip it down and paint it on the road :)


  • #1041
    dhaughton99
    Registered Users Posts: 1,695 ✭✭✭dhaughton99


    ...__... wrote: »
    141 KE King long arrived Friday all in clean white.
    Just waiting for the cans of spray paint to come through ebay before they strip it down and paint it on the road :)

    They seem to have two of these white ones. There’s one sitting outside the depot with it’s panels all open for the past week and another is doing the rounds from outside the Luas station. Also have a navy one doing the rounds. Not sure if they have it hired from someone.


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  • #1042
    Joegriffin2019
    Registered Users Posts: 44 ✭Joegriffin2019


    Competition from JJ Kavanagh on the way, all be it from Naas to Dublin.... hopefully this will force Dublin Coach to up their game.

    https://www.kildarenow.com/news/new-24-hour-bus-service-go-head-head-naas-green-bus/267192?fbclid=IwAR2UGJWeAdV0NCLWMxbqR6QZzhe9IttcnJSaR9BndMtnBKufhyS2CIlWlfY

    Timetable below, on the hour with coaches every half hour during peak periods, 10 euro one way Naas-Airport and 5 Euro Naas to Dublin City.

    https://ticketbooking.jjkavanagh.ie/PromoPDF/Naas.pdf


  • #1043
    devnull
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 11,582 Mod ✭✭✭✭devnull


    Joegriffin2019 wrote: »
    Competition from JJ Kavanagh on the way, all be it from Naas to Dublin.... hopefully this will force Dublin Coach to up their game.

    https://www.kildarenow.com/news/new-24-hour-bus-service-go-head-head-naas-green-bus/267192?fbclid=IwAR2UGJWeAdV0NCLWMxbqR6QZzhe9IttcnJSaR9BndMtnBKufhyS2CIlWlfY

    Timetable below, on the hour with coaches every half hour during peak periods, 10 euro one way Naas-Airport and 5 Euro Naas to Dublin City.

    https://ticketbooking.jjkavanagh.ie/PromoPDF/Naas.pdf

    You will most likely see them throw resources at the route now, special offers and suchlike, and also newer vehicles, which they haven't done in years.

    Although saying that it only goes head to head with them for some of the route so maybe they won't. Better stop locations in Dublin though.

    However wasn't the route 123 part of the Go-Ahead contract for Naas routes?


  • #1044
    Vic_08
    Registered Users Posts: 3,041 ✭✭✭Vic_08


    123 is the number used for the relatively infrequent BE service to Newbridge via Clane, Robertstown and Kilmeague. It should not be duplicated with another route, especially not one that will have pick-up stops on the same roads.

    The NTA really are a bunch of incompetent clowns.

    This route is going to primarily be abstractive to the BE 126 City-Naas route which is a PSO route, what possible justification is there in licencing it?


  • #1045
    devnull
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 11,582 Mod ✭✭✭✭devnull


    Vic_08 wrote: »
    123 is the number used for the relatively infrequent BE service to Newbridge via Clane, Robertstown and Kilmeague. It should not be duplicated with another route, especially not one that will have pick-up stops on the same roads.

    The NTA really are a bunch of incompetent clowns.

    This route is going to primarily be abstractive to the BE 126 City-Naas route which is a PSO route, what possible justification is there in licencing it?

    Interestingly the 123 is one of the routes that is supposed to be transferring to Go-Ahead as well and that is supposed to be a Dublin to Naas route under the proposals of what the tender involved, so that raises more questions.

    The idea of having two routes with the same numbers covering almost identical areas is a bit stupid though, but maybe there is something that we are missing here, I guess we will have to wait and see.

    In other news, Dublin Coach are set to start operating on a new route between Dublin Airport and Clongriffin according to what I have heard - although one has to wonder if they will cancel those plans now if they're about to get some competition on their Naas route.


  • #1046
    Odyssey 2005
    Registered Users Posts: 21,065 ✭✭✭✭Odyssey 2005


    Joegriffin2019 wrote: »
    Competition from JJ Kavanagh on the way, all be it from Naas to Dublin.... hopefully this will force Dublin Coach to up their game.

    https://www.kildarenow.com/news/new-24-hour-bus-service-go-head-head-naas-green-bus/267192?fbclid=IwAR2UGJWeAdV0NCLWMxbqR6QZzhe9IttcnJSaR9BndMtnBKufhyS2CIlWlfY

    Timetable below, on the hour with coaches every half hour during peak periods, 10 euro one way Naas-Airport and 5 Euro Naas to Dublin City.

    https://ticketbooking.jjkavanagh.ie/PromoPDF/Naas.pdf

    I travelling from outside kk to DAP tomorrow. JJ K are charging €18 from the village to DAP. New clean and on time coach. DC are charging €15 in a clapped out xmilliin miles 04 rattle box Setra ,and I have to change busses and wait in the red cow Lucas stop. Guess who I'm travelling with.


  • #1047
    Odyssey 2005
    Registered Users Posts: 21,065 ✭✭✭✭Odyssey 2005


    soundman45 wrote: »
    Talking to drivers that have worked for them it seems as a driver for Dublin Coach if you have an accident they will charge the driver €1000 to cover for damage. How on earth they get drivers to work for them I have no idea.

    That's bonkers. Who's work under those conditions ?. Travelling on a jjk coach right now. We ore in the 60kph zone on the m8 works. Dublin coach just passed everyone,he was doing at least 90.


  • #1048
    punisher5112
    Registered Users Posts: 24,647 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    A Dublin coach hit a 44 in Dundrum yesterday and destroyed the side including doors and windows.


  • #1049
    ...__...
    Registered Users Posts: 507 ✭✭✭...__...


    dhaughton99 wrote: »
    They seem to have two of these white ones. There’s one sitting outside the depot with it’s panels all open for the past week and another is doing the rounds from outside the Luas station. Also have a navy one doing the rounds. Not sure if they have it hired from someone.

    I had a closer look at this one really falling apart already and not even in service yet lights hanging off panels loose ya wouldnt waste the petrol to burn it out for insurance.


  • #1050
    Odyssey 2005
    Registered Users Posts: 21,065 ✭✭✭✭Odyssey 2005


    punisher5112 wrote: »
    A Dublin coach hit a 44 in Dundrum yesterday and destroyed the side including doors and windows.

    He will be driving for nothing for a while so ;)


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  • #1051
    testarossa40
    Registered Users Posts: 759 ✭✭✭testarossa40


    punisher5112 wrote: »
    A Dublin coach hit a 44 in Dundrum yesterday and destroyed the side including doors and windows.
    Any pics?


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