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@emmamav - welcome to boards
You sound like a responsible person and it is fine to leave dogs, even puppies, on their own for a few hours. Dogs will just sleep for most of that, they sleep for at least several hours more per day than humans.
Go home for lunch yourself on those 4 longer days and plan to have someone (yourself / neighbour / dog sitter) come in for a few minutes every morning mid morning, at least for a few months and take it from there
Pity you didn't decide a few months ago when you got off school because of COVID. Your puppy would have been nearly adult by the time you are back in work!0 -
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Just wanted to say I’m glad the breeder came back and said no ... sounds like a responsible breeder who cares and wants the best life for the pups .. but that’s just me!
Yes, that's why I want to get a dog from a breeder that cares. I was just very disappointed initially. I have never had a dog and read that they shouldn't be left alone for more than 4 hours, so I felt that coming home during the day would have been enough, but clearly not.@emmamav - welcome to boards
You sound like a responsible person and it is fine to leave dogs, even puppies, on their own for a few hours. Dogs will just sleep for most of that, they sleep for at least several hours more per day than humans.
Go home for lunch yourself on those 4 longer days and plan to have someone (yourself / neighbour / dog sitter) come in for a few minutes every morning mid morning, at least for a few months and take it from there
Pity you didn't decide a few months ago when you got off school because of COVID. Your puppy would have been nearly adult by the time you are back in work!
I know, it would have been good as I had been working from home for so long but I think any good breeder has a waiting list of 1+ years anyway!deadlybuzzman wrote: »I've worked much longer hours and just used doggy day care. It solved 2 problems in 1 go, the dog got both exercised and more importantly socialised.
Thank you and to the others that suggested dog daycare. I didn't think there was any near me, but one opened last year!0 -
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I wouldn't fall out with you over your working hours op
Especially if you could nip home for a little while on the longer days, and if you could possibly time the arrival of pup at the start of the summer hols... I see no reason why it's not entirely do-able. Is the breed you're looking for one of the rarer ones that it's hard to find a reputable breeder? I hope not
One thing I will say, and I may be shot down in flames for this, but I am not a fan of big doggy daycares. I think that most dogs in the bigger daycares are experiencing some level of stress while they're there. It takes a certain kind of dog to actively enjoy the atmosphere, and I feel that dogs can learn quite bad habits in them too.
Give me either a small daycare, or a dog walker any day of the week!0 -
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Having 2 dogs is, in many respects, easier than one. But, there are disadvantages to it too. You need twice the stuff, at least twice the training effort, you need twice the moolah for walkers, daycare, routine vet fees, food, toys, equipment etc. Depending on their size, you may need a bigger car. Realistically it is harder to get two minded if you're going away. Twice the hair if they're moulters, twice the muddy footprints and tail wall art. As already stated, if the suggestion is to get a pair of littermates, unless you've a lot of training and dog-management experience, can go quite wrong on you... although there is a bit of leeway depending on breed and individual temperament too.
Sorry to take this off-topic a little, but I found your answer interesting DBB, and wanted to comment further.
We had a Shih Tzu which we sadly lost at the start of lockdown. I've commented on threads on here many times before under my old username ABajaninCork. We're planning to get 2 Shih Tzu and are on wait lists with IKC breeders here, but do not plan to get littermates as they would be much harder to train. I'm WFH for the foreseeable, so hopefully, we will be able to train the new friends at home. I have a doggy day care lined up, and training sorted. My plan is once they are toilet and puppy trained, then send them to the day care once a week to get them used to it if I have to return to the office.
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Nice to know you're still about!:)
On the not getting littermates thing, and maybe I'm picking you up wrong, but if you want to avoid so-called "littermate syndrome", then you need to avoid getting any two pups at the same time, even if they're not related. A bit of an age gap, or time one spends with you before the second pup arrives, is what to aim for. Perhaps this is what you meant?
As for daycare, I'm not a fan of places that have lots of dogs. I think they're quite stressful for many dogs, and I feel that there's a large subset of dogs that, no matter how much socialising you do with them, just don't enjoy being in big crowds of other dogs, particularly if their owner isn't with them. It's a temperament thing, and we can't do much to change that. It's perfectly understandable really, there are lots of humans the same!
No matter how careful they are, big daycares are noisy and distracting. I'm not a fan of how "down time" is practised in them (I don't feel it's really quality "down time" for most dogs at all), and I've just seen too many dogs pick up too many bad habits from having too many inappropriate interactions or experiences in the larger daycare setting. Some daycares are careful to do this already, but any that allow small dogs (and puppies) to mix freely and in a free-for-all way with big dogs are, in my opinion, an absolute non-runner.
I would prefer, if possible, to get pups into good puppy socialisation classes, graduating on to basic obedience classes, as these are great opportunities for controlled and safe access to other dogs.
In the absence of a smaller daycare, I would opt for a good dog walker who brings small groups of dogs out for group walks in safe places for days I'm not going to be homeMissShihTzu wrote: »Sorry to take this off-topic a little, but I found your answer interesting DBB, and wanted to comment further.
We had a Shih Tzu which we sadly lost at the start of lockdown. I've commented on threads on here many times before under my old username ABajaninCork. We're planning to get 2 Shih Tzu and are on wait lists with IKC breeders here, but do not plan to get littermates as they would be much harder to train. I'm WFH for the foreseeable, so hopefully, we will be able to train the new friends at home. I have a doggy day care lined up, and training sorted. My plan is once they are toilet and puppy trained, then send them to the day care once a week to get them used to it if I have to return to the office.
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Nice to know you're still about!:)
On the not getting littermates thing, and maybe I'm picking you up wrong, but if you want to avoid so-called "littermate syndrome", then you need to avoid getting any two pups at the same time, even if they're not related. A bit of an age gap, or time one spends with you before the second pup arrives, is what to aim for. Perhaps this is what you meant?
Yes - that's exactly what we're aiming for
Yes - the daycare our boy went to before is small and very reliable. We've been burned a few times by flaky dog-walkers and one well-known company in particular that just took our money and did nothing for it. The daycare owner also boards and was also very good with our boy. He has indicated he would be more than happy to take on our friends when we get them, and we're very comfortable with him.As for daycare, I'm not a fan of places that have lots of dogs. I think they're quite stressful for many dogs, and I feel that there's a large subset of dogs that, no matter how much socialising you do with them, just don't enjoy being in big crowds of other dogs, particularly if their owner isn't with them. It's a temperament thing, and we can't do much to change that. It's perfectly understandable really, there are lots of humans the same!
No matter how careful they are, big daycares are noisy and distracting. I'm not a fan of how "down time" is practised in them (I don't feel it's really quality "down time" for most dogs at all), and I've just seen too many dogs pick up too many bad habits from having too many inappropriate interactions or experiences in the larger daycare setting. Some daycares are careful to do this already, but any that allow small dogs (and puppies) to mix freely and in a free-for-all way with big dogs are, in my opinion, an absolute non-runner.I would prefer, if possible, to get pups into good puppy socialisation classes, graduating on to basic obedience classes, as these are great opportunities for controlled and safe access to other dogs.
In the absence of a smaller daycare, I would opt for a good dog walker who brings small groups of dogs out for group walks in safe places for days I'm not going to be home
I agree, and don't really like the 'training classes' as such. We much prefer the socialisation and training through play approach which worked well for our boy, and wanted the same for the new ones. Creedon's in Cork offer this as well as 4Paws in Douglas, so will go with either one of those when the time comes.
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