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  • #452
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users Posts: 66,820 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    cgcsb wrote: »
    But the main reason Catholics aren't joining is because of poor pay and conditions and their better educational attainment allows them to get twice or three times the wages in working in Dublin.

    Who would want to join and stand powerlessly by and watch the selective policing at this time of year?

    A long way to go has the PSNI.


  • #453
    munsterlegend
    Registered Users Posts: 6,143 ✭✭✭munsterlegend


    https://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/crime/irish-tricolour-is-hoisted-above-rural-orange-lodge-1-8997517

    Talk about lads getting hysterical over nothing! A hate crime?! What planet do these people actually live in?!


  • #454
    cgcsb
    Registered Users Posts: 9,271 ✭✭✭cgcsb


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    Who would want to join and stand powerlessly by and watch the selective policing at this time of year?

    A long way to go has the PSNI.

    That too


  • #455
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users Posts: 66,820 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    cgcsb wrote: »
    It depends on the particular belief. Were Irish Catholics ever into biblical literalism or anti gay sentiment, I don't think so, but try to talk about low key funerals or cremations to 90% of Irish Catholics, lapsed into atheism or not you'll get your head snapped off

    In my experience (a committed atheist) I would say that is a generalistion. Cremation is more or less accepted as an option now.

    My point is that once the tide turns, or the shackles come off, the power of a church dissipates very quickly. The RC church has all but zero power socially here in a few short years.


  • #456
    Strumms
    Registered Users Posts: 24,800 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    The RC church has all but zero power socially here in a few short years.

    True, but that didn’t happen overnight and I think one of the main catalysts for that as well as a more educated and enlightened Ireland was the churches reaction and covering up of child sex abuse scandals... that really made ‘believers’ and ‘non believers’ sit up, take note and form a more astute opinion of the organization and the very premise of religion and it’s negative impact and influences on society.


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  • #457
    Atoms for Peace
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,888 ✭✭✭Atoms for Peace


    Great, the highlights are on BBC NI at 10:40.


  • #458
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users Posts: 66,820 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    What the various apologists/ PRO's that have popped up on Boards.ie today proclaiming 'fun family days out' don't want to acknowledge or address...not to mention their political masters or the PSNI.


    https://scontent.fdub4-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/64408313_2621801447853354_2827955013425299456_n.jpg?_nc_cat=102&_nc_oc=AQm0SMqOYR99ipQBdHgGJ3oNFgPDe3Pu30DVglgPfP-vAN3BhRAqVjlZBz1FxeXx5-c&_nc_ht=scontent.fdub4-1.fna&oh=68c7e6b9012a0839c9add9774e9bc899&oe=5DC18EDA


  • #459
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users Posts: 66,820 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Strumms wrote: »
    True, but that didn’t happen overnight and I think one of the main catalysts for that as well as a more educated and enlightened Ireland was the churches reaction and covering up of child sex abuse scandals... that really made ‘believers’ and ‘non believers’ sit up, take note and form a more astute opinion of the organization and the very premise of religion and it’s negative impact and influences on society.

    Well it happened within a few short years of my life Strumms. Ireland of today is totally different to Ireland in the 70's and 80's.

    Once undermined as you correctly point out, (I personally think it started with Bishop Casey) things changed very quickly.


  • #460
    Mad_maxx
    Registered Users Posts: 13,505 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    cgcsb wrote: »
    Well that's true but religious background has an influence on culture long after the population has turned to atheism.

    Very true, despite being post religious secular states, no one could deny the obvious influence that Lutheranism has had on the nordic countries or Presbyterianism has had on new Zealand


  • #461
    Mad_maxx
    Registered Users Posts: 13,505 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    NIMAN wrote: »
    A lot of unionists are very insular, and don't like folk moving into their areas.

    There are many cases of immigrants homes being attacked.

    Many folk in rural Ireland don't like people from two parishes over moving in, we are little different


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  • #462
    Beechwoodspark
    Registered Users Posts: 15,281 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    Im disgusted with the bonfires

    Don’t mind the marching but the co2 released by the bonfires is unreal


  • #463
    munsterlegend
    Registered Users Posts: 6,143 ✭✭✭munsterlegend


    Atoms for Peace wrote: »
    Great, the highlights are on BBC NI at 10:40.

    Turned on for a few minutes. Everyone programmed to say ‘this is a family day out’.


  • #464
    filbert the fox
    Registered Users Posts: 809 ✭✭✭filbert the fox


    Beechwoodspark wrote: »
    Im disgusted with the bonfires

    Don’t mind the marching but the co2 released by the bonfires is unreal

    And the dioxins , the smoke particles, the rubber tyres emissions and whatever other stuff buried beneath?


  • #465
    Beechwoodspark
    Registered Users Posts: 15,281 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    filbert the fox wrote: »
    And the dioxins , the smoke particles, the rubber tyres emissions and whatever other stuff buried beneath?

    Agree.

    If it were in a green area they’d impose the full weight of their war machine to make sure bonfires weren’t lit.

    Hypocritical backstaards.


  • #466
    armaghlad
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,660 ✭✭✭armaghlad


    Beechwoodspark wrote: »
    Im disgusted with the bonfires

    Don’t mind the marching but the co2 released by the bonfires is unreal
    There is a bonfire in Belfast quite close to the Westlink coming into the city from the M1, passed it last night as it was burning and could feel the heat in the car!


  • #467
    armaghlad
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,660 ✭✭✭armaghlad


    munsterlegend wrote: »
    Turned on for a few minutes. Everyone programmed to say ‘this is a family day out’.
    I take it they didn’t cover any of the bands playing their sectarian songs? They never really like to cover that aspect of proceedings for some reason..


  • #468
    Beechwoodspark
    Registered Users Posts: 15,281 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    armaghlad wrote: »
    I take it they didn’t cover any of the bands playing their sectarian songs? They never really like to cover that aspect of proceedings for some reason..

    All the songs are ultra sectarian


  • #469
    citytillidie
    Registered Users Posts: 21,961 ✭✭✭✭citytillidie


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    You are getting at the nub of what still has to happen in northern Ireland NIMAN.

    I think that female police officer talked herself into a corner yesterday, it will be interesting to see if there are any repercussions with her 'We don't have the power' remarks. Because I think they would have plenty of 'powers' if they genuinely wanted to use them

    Shall see what happens next month as the hoods from the bogside try to build that bonfire

    ******



  • #470
    munsterlegend
    Registered Users Posts: 6,143 ✭✭✭munsterlegend


    armaghlad wrote: »
    I take it they didn’t cover any of the bands playing their sectarian songs? They never really like to cover that aspect of proceedings for some reason..

    No funnily enough. Have no idea what they are playing to be honest. No one spat at by a band member either yet.

    Feel sorry for the kids being indoctrinated into this crap. At least they have the internet now to find out things for themselves.


  • #471
    armaghlad
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,660 ✭✭✭armaghlad


    munsterlegend wrote: »
    No funnily enough. Have no idea what they are playing to be honest. No one spat at by a band member either yet.
    They play the tunes, the supporters sing the lyrics. Saw a few renditions of the billy boys, famine song, simply the best etc on social media. Family day out indeed lol


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  • #472
    Beechwoodspark
    Registered Users Posts: 15,281 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    Am I right in saying the nationalist side have a big event in a few weeks for a weekend


  • #473
    citytillidie
    Registered Users Posts: 21,961 ✭✭✭✭citytillidie


    _blaaz wrote: »
    Perhaps you could.outline what this rant has to do with your AMA on orange culture/july 12th experiences?

    Can’t answer anything unless they can fire it back on republicans for some whataboutary

    ******



  • #474
    citytillidie
    Registered Users Posts: 21,961 ✭✭✭✭citytillidie


    Beechwoodspark wrote: »
    Am I right in saying the nationalist side have a big event in a few weeks for a weekend

    Féile an Phobail instead of an official bonfire will be in West Belfast

    ******



  • #475
    Bobeagleburger
    Registered Users Posts: 45,260 ✭✭✭✭Bobeagleburger


    Weird culture it is.


  • #476
    timthumbni
    Registered Users Posts: 4,845 ✭✭✭timthumbni


    cgcsb wrote: »
    But the main reason Catholics aren't joining is because of poor pay and conditions and their better educational attainment

    Hmmm. No issue then. Nothing to do with fellow Catholics blowing their legs off. At all, at all,...


  • #477
    timthumbni
    Registered Users Posts: 4,845 ✭✭✭timthumbni


    votecounts wrote: »
    could you not burn a few tricolors as this is what your lot seem good at. "

    My lot? What’s that then?


  • #478
    timthumbni
    Registered Users Posts: 4,845 ✭✭✭timthumbni


    votecounts wrote: »
    could you not burn a few tricolors "

    Ive already said burning the flag of a neighbouring country is wrong so no I wouldn’t burn any Irish tricolours. Thanks anyway.


  • #479
    Strumms
    Registered Users Posts: 24,800 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    munsterlegend wrote: »
    Turned on for a few minutes. Everyone programmed to say ‘this is a family day out’.

    Yeah, funny innit....We had a lot of family days out as kids, although I don’t remember one where I was ever encouraged to attack Gardai or members of the press or anyone else for that matter.


  • #480
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users Posts: 66,820 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Strumms wrote: »
    Yeah, funny innit....We had a lot of family days out as kids, although I don’t remember one where I was ever encouraged to attack Gardai or members of the press or anyone else for that matter.

    https://twitter.com/stevenmdunne/status/1149617590576111616


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  • #481
    timthumbni
    Registered Users Posts: 4,845 ✭✭✭timthumbni


    Strumms wrote: »
    Yeah, funny innit....We had a lot of family days out as kids, although I don’t remember one where I was ever encouraged to attack Gardai or members of the press or anyone else for that matter.

    Are you suggesting that at the parade today my kids were encouraged to attack the police or press of anyone else? This is just getting weird now.


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