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Terminator: Dark Fate **Spoilers from post 983**

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    #332
    El Duda
    Registered Users Posts: 867 ✭✭✭El Duda


    I haven't been this disturbed by a trailer since they dug up the corpse of Cher and stuck her in the Mamma Mia 2 trailer.

    Not Linda Hamilton too?! Noooooooooo


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    #333
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users Posts: 23,443 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxPeVTIanzs


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    #334
    Slydice
    Registered Users Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    In the line "Because I was her"... towards the end, it sounds a little like younger Sarahs voice.


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    #335
    batgoat
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,423 ✭✭✭batgoat


    pixelburp wrote: »
    Well at first blush it looks to be getting back to basics anyway, a straightforward "cat & mouse" chase narrative, which is welcome after the labyrinthine nonsense of Genisys. The CGI looks pretty rough though - here's hoping that's WIP.

    Looks like the teenage girl is the target, but we don't get a why, so bonus points for the trailer not spoiling everything.

    Bit divided on it myself. Like the music, love Hamilton, Mackenzie Davis is well suited to the role imho. One slight concern is the over the top flight sequence. Don't get why it keeps being done in so many movies.


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    #336
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users Posts: 23,443 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    batgoat wrote: »
    Bit divided on it myself. Like the music, love Hamilton, Mackenzie Davis is well suited to the role imho. One slight concern is the over the top flight sequence. Don't get why it keeps being done in so many movies.

    That scene is the one downside for me. I was hoping they would resist OTT CGI action that make your eyes role.

    Longer Cameron interview. Gives away some additional nuggets. Confirms Arnie is yet again a T-800 *sigh*

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9oNjdgCeRg


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    #337
    Slydice
    Registered Users Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    So black colour of the terminator skeleton.. carbon fibre maybe? or something mixed with carbon? titanium?
    *googles*
    Carbotanium? Is that a thing?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbotanium


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    #338
    nix
    Registered Users Posts: 4,909 ✭✭✭nix


    My guess is, since they "delayed" judgement day, John Connor is no longer the new leader of the resistance as he will likely be granddad/dead when the time comes and the mexican girl is the new "Sarah Connor" who will give birth to the new leader. Passing of the torch no doubt indeed..

    As for how it looks, the effects look terrible, the cgi looks on par with syfy channel sh!te. How does T2 still look better nearly 30 years later? :confused:

    I wasnt sold on Gabriel Luna playing ghost rider, but all in all he done a good job. I can't see him being a good Terminator though, hopefully I'm wrong again..

    I'm not very hopeful after that trailer If I'm honest, it looks like yet another feminist circle jerk :rolleyes:


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    #339
    Tazzimus
    Registered Users Posts: 3,933 ✭✭✭Tazzimus


    nix wrote: »
    As for how it looks, the effects look terrible, the cgi looks on par with syfy channel sh!te. How does T2 still look better nearly 30 years later? :confused:

    T2 used mostly practical effects didn't it? They always look better than CGI IMO.

    I always find they've never quite mastered people with CGI yet, they look too rubbery or something.
    Worst example I remember seeing at the time was Blade 2, that one in particular stuck in my mind


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    #340
    Slydice
    Registered Users Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9oNjdgCeRg

    So..
    • All Happens in 36 hours
    • "This is gonna be an R-Rated movie so I can swear"
    • 3 Film arc if this film is successful in the box office

    Starting to feel the trailer hasn't given away a lot.


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    #341
    El Duda
    Registered Users Posts: 867 ✭✭✭El Duda


    That Cameron video...

    "How many empowered over 60 female characters are there? None"

    ".. she is bad grandma with a shotgun!"


    Yeah, cos we haven't seen that anywhere in the last year...














    971479.jpg


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    #342
    pixelburp
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 35,941 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Tazzimus wrote: »
    T2 used mostly practical effects didn't it? They always look better than CGI IMO.

    I always find they've never quite mastered people with CGI yet, they look too rubbery or something.
    Worst example I remember seeing at the time was Blade 2, that one in particular stuck in my mind

    Apart from the T-1000 yeah, like Jurassic Park there was very 'little' CGI in Terminator 2.

    The same complaint about CGI quality has been made about the MCU films; that the Iron Man FX from (say) 2010s sequel looks better than Infinity Wars equivalent. I think the problem comes down to how much like sweatshops FX companies have become, and how little time or money they're given to get the job done.

    ILM were the only game in town in the early 90s so if you wanted your cutting edge FX, you waited. Now I believe FX houses are under pressure to delivery more, with less.


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    #343
    cursai
    Registered Users Posts: 2,915 ✭✭✭cursai


    I think it looks fantastic! A return to form for the series.










    cop on to yourself. Better CGI in a condom


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    #344
    McDermotX
    Registered Users Posts: 14,648 ✭✭✭✭McDermotX


    Hmm......not looking good at all, is it ?

    Nothing to really grab you, which has to be the point of teasers. They've done a lot of talking on this one, Miller and Cameron, so they have to deliver something to wash away the bad taste of the previous efforts.

    Always willing to keep an open mind, but not feeling it at all with that teaser. Gonna take a hell of lot more than.....'ooohh, look ! Its Linda !'


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    py2006
    Registered Users Posts: 9,847 ✭✭✭py2006


    Well that looks awful.

    What's with the cheap looking CGI???


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    #346
    py2006
    Registered Users Posts: 9,847 ✭✭✭py2006


    Looks like Arnie is reduced to a cameo. Prob not a terminator but just the guy they based the terminators features on.


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    #347
    McDermotX
    Registered Users Posts: 14,648 ✭✭✭✭McDermotX


    py2006 wrote: »
    Looks like Arnie is reduced to a cameo. Prob not a terminator but just the guy they based the terminators features on.

    Hard to say.......ignoring T3 as they do they can, of course, go down that route, but they can just as easily fudge some explanation about how he's around post T2's end.....different cyborg from the future, or a wizard did it etc

    Production preview teaser, released at the same time as the trailer earlier, has him listed at T-800, but who knows ?


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    #348
    batgoat
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,423 ✭✭✭batgoat


    py2006 wrote: »
    Well that looks awful.

    What's with the cheap looking CGI???

    Wouldn't be hugely concerned about the CGI, won't be out until November so likely still work to be done.


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    #349
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users Posts: 23,443 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    py2006 wrote: »
    Looks like Arnie is reduced to a cameo. Prob not a terminator but just the guy they based the terminators features on.

    Cameron says in his interview that he is a terminator.


    Also that fight scene involving Gabriel Luna looks like it takes place on the US/Mexico border and they are border guards rather than the army.


    Also the train they are on top of with the South American migrants on it...(which could indicate them returning to the US side of the border later in the movie presumably)

    I hope they don't go the route of embedded political messaging all over this with the border as a prop.

    It's not required. Just tell a good story.


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    #350
    TerrorFirmer
    Closed Accounts Posts: 29,930 ✭✭✭✭TerrorFirmer


    Honestly not hugely gone on that trailer. It looks perfectly fine as an entertaining popcorn flick and I'd be the first to go and see it, but it doesn't really give much ground to expect a lot more from it than Genisys.

    Over-designed, with far too much going on, completely unnecessarily, in half of the scenes in the trailer. I wish they would resist that urge to make everything these days a huge CGI-driven, explosion filled, assault on the senses.

    Like, it works for Marvel sure, but there's an underlying intelligence to most of those movies that justifies it, or even enhances the experience to a large degree.

    With stuff like Genisys, it's just explosion after explosion, quip after quip, with very little actual meat on the bones (or should I say, endoskeleton...) to make any sort of meaningful or lasting impression.

    Entertaining, but Terminator needs to be radically pared down and rebooted in a far more meaningful, grounded and thoughtful way than the trailer appears to suggest this movie is doing.

    Something like a T1/T2 hybrid, rather than a T3/Genisys hybrid.


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    #351
    OU812
    Registered Users Posts: 6,035 ✭✭✭OU812


    Impossible physics is not what I'm looking for in this movie.


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    #352
    py2006
    Registered Users Posts: 9,847 ✭✭✭py2006


    I was hoping for a return to the darker imagery of the first too.


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    #353
    Blueshoe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    Christ sake.
    Can they not just leave feminism to one side. Ruined already


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    #354
    pixelburp
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 35,941 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    Christ sake.
    Can they not just leave feminism to one side. Ruined already

    Sarcasm, or are you that delicate that more than one female lead has you screaming "feminism?" For god's sake don't ever watch Thelma and Louise, you might have an aneurism there and then.


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    #355
    Blueshoe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    pixelburp wrote: »
    Sarcasm, or are you that delicate that more than one female lead has you screaming "feminism?"

    Ruins movies and franchises.
    Remember the all female Ghostbusters cast? Pile of puke


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    #356
    Agent Coulson
    Registered Users Posts: 60,283 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Well the poster worked better than that Trailer.

    God it looks Awful.


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    #357
    B.A._Baracus
    Registered Users Posts: 11,171 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    Looks garbage.
    Also looks like a TV show with its production quality.


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    #358
    pixelburp
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 35,941 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    Ruins movies and franchises.
    Remember the all female Ghostbusters cast? Pile of puke

    Apples and oranges but if you want to beat a drum because there's some women in the cast, go for it. I'm fairly sure whether this film lives or dies it won't be because, GOSH, the lead hero is a woman. The terminator franchise was was already ruined before you got so triggered.


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    #359
    Sad Professor
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,668 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    Not a very good trailer. And I'm not enthused by whatever bit of the premise and plot was revealed here. The terminator vs terminator thing feels exhausted but I assume there's more to it that's not being revealed.


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    Sad Professor
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,668 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    Re: the gender make-up of the cast, there's still John Connor, Arnold and the main terminator who are all men and I assume main characters. And there are what - three women? So it's hardly Lady Ghostbusters.


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    #361
    Tazzimus
    Registered Users Posts: 3,933 ✭✭✭Tazzimus


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    Ruins movies and franchises.
    Remember the all female Ghostbusters cast? Pile of puke
    LOL


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