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UFC 242: Khabib Nurmagomedov vs Dustin Poirier [7 Sep, 19:00]

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  • #482
    Cupp3r
    Registered Users Posts: 128 ✭✭Cupp3r


    walshb wrote: »
    175 cms is about 5 feet 9, not 7.

    5 ' 8.98 to be exact.


  • #483
    Tazzimus
    Registered Users Posts: 3,933 ✭✭✭Tazzimus


    Dustin Poirier by Sub
    walshb wrote: »
    175 cms is about 5 feet 9, not 7.
    My bad, I was reading the 5.74 feet as 5'7" when it's actually just shy of 5'9"


  • #484
    The Nal
    Registered Users Posts: 12,420 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    Tazzimus wrote: »
    My bad, I was reading the 5.74 feet as 5'7" when it's actually just shy of 5'9"

    Either way Khabib has a load of fights left on the LW table before thinking about WW. Ferguson, Gaethje, Cerrone, Lee, McGregor, Pettis....


  • #485
    rob316
    Registered Users Posts: 17,927 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    US2 wrote: »
    Gathje is probably the best you are going to see him fight, maybe Kevin Lee too if he stays at 155

    Except Gathje seems allergic to showing his high level wrestling background. Prefers all out wars


  • #486
    Tazzimus
    Registered Users Posts: 3,933 ✭✭✭Tazzimus


    Dustin Poirier by Sub
    The Nal wrote: »
    Either way Khabib has a load of fights left on the LW table before thinking about WW. Ferguson, Gaethje, Cerrone, Lee, McGregor, Pettis....
    Absolutely. I don't think he moves up personally, he won't want to risk that 0.
    He knows he has a better chance of retiring undefeated as a LW. Even with the GSP fight, he wanted him to come down to 155.


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  • #487
    walshb
    Registered Users Posts: 54,562 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Cupp3r wrote: »
    5 ' 8.98 to be exact.

    About!!!:P


  • #488
    US2
    Registered Users Posts: 2,651 ✭✭✭US2


    Dustin Poirier by KO/TKO
    Tazzimus wrote: »
    Absolutely. I don't think he moves up personally, he won't want to risk that 0.
    He knows he has a better chance of retiring undefeated as a LW. Even with the GSP fight, he wanted him to come down to 155.

    Which is good imo. Proper champ defend your belt against all comers rather than this champ champ bull****


  • #489
    yourdeadwright
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    The Nal wrote: »
    Either way Khabib has a load of fights left on the LW table before thinking about WW. Ferguson, Gaethje, Cerrone, Lee, McGregor, Pettis....



    Erks me that none of the mentioned are world class wrestler's , Gaethje is the best but doesn't use it, Lee can't make weight without his cardio disappearing



    I really want to see Khabib v a top wrestler,


  • #490
    The Nal
    Registered Users Posts: 12,420 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    yourdeadwright wrote: »
    Erks me that none of the mentioned are world class wrestler's , Gaethje is the best but doesn't use it, Lee can't make weight without his cardio disappearing



    I really want to see Khabib v a top wrestler,

    Don't think there is one at the moment at LW? And they're all top 10 guys I named. Would any of the top WW guys make 155?


  • #491
    rob316
    Registered Users Posts: 17,927 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    The Nal wrote: »
    Don't think there is one at the moment at LW? And they're all top 10 guys I named. Would any of the top WW guys make 155?

    I think Colby said before he'd go to 155 but that's probably **** talk. I'd say he could make 155 none of the rest though.


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  • #492
    jousting with chairs
    Registered Users Posts: 929 ✭✭✭jousting with chairs


    Dustin Poirier by Sub
    The Nal wrote: »
    Don't think there is one at the moment at LW? And they're all top 10 guys I named. Would any of the top WW guys make 155?

    Gregor Gillespie might cause him a few problems.


  • #493
    Cupp3r
    Registered Users Posts: 128 ✭✭Cupp3r


    jousting with chairs wrote: »
    Gregor Gillespie might cause him a few problems.

    Ever see GG spar with Bozo?


  • #494
    jousting with chairs
    Registered Users Posts: 929 ✭✭✭jousting with chairs


    Dustin Poirier by Sub
    Cupp3r wrote: »
    Ever see GG spar with Bozo?

    No, did a quick search but didn't find anything.


  • #495
    eagle eye
    Registered Users Posts: 37,485 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    US2 wrote:
    You think he's avoiding wrestlers or something? He's beat everyone that stood in front of him. Don't see why he has to put himself at a massive disadvantage against bigger guys to be great
    Top three at welterweight are Usman the is 6'0", Woodley is 5'9", Covington is 5'11", Khabib is 5'10". How would that be a big deal.


  • #496
    Cupp3r
    Registered Users Posts: 128 ✭✭Cupp3r


    jousting with chairs wrote: »
    No, did a quick search but didn't find anything.

    Go to Gregor's Instagram it's some time late last year. Gregor against Adam Busiello. Adam is a top grade wrestler and Gregor shows his class.


  • #497
    Cupp3r
    Registered Users Posts: 128 ✭✭Cupp3r


    eagle eye wrote: »
    Top three at welterweight are Usman the is 6'0", Woodley is 5'9", Covington is 5'11", Khabib is 5'10". How would that be a big deal.

    Big difference body mass wise.


  • #498
    US2
    Registered Users Posts: 2,651 ✭✭✭US2


    Dustin Poirier by KO/TKO
    eagle eye wrote: »
    Top three at welterweight are Usman the is 6'0", Woodley is 5'9", Covington is 5'11", Khabib is 5'10". How would that be a big deal.

    Hieght means nothing! Max Holloway is the same hieght as Woodley!

    Heavey weight Daniel cornier is only 5'10


  • #499
    Tazzimus
    Registered Users Posts: 3,933 ✭✭✭Tazzimus


    Dustin Poirier by Sub
    rob316 wrote: »
    I think Colby said before he'd go to 155 but that's probably **** talk. I'd say he could make 155 none of the rest though.
    He was the name that sprang to mind for me. As far as I know, he doesn't cut too much weight, so could probably do it.


  • #500
    dulux99
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    Colby v Khabib, now there's a fight.


  • #501
    xckjoo
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    average hero wrote: »
    One thing my mate and I realised was that Khabib's relies heavily upon the fence. He utilises wrestling and judo trips very well. If it was straight JJ in the middle of the octagon, would it be so easy? I think defending Khabib would be better in the middle of the octagon as Conor showed in round 1. Genuine question - would like other's opinions.
    Pretty sure his work against the cage is one of the innovations his father brought into his game that's made him so dominant. He utilises it better than anyone. Gets you against it and then chain wrestles you into exhaustion. I dunno what the "answer" is to Khabib, but I feel that avoiding getting backed into the cage must be a major part of it. Easier said than done of course!


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  • #502
    Tazzimus
    Registered Users Posts: 3,933 ✭✭✭Tazzimus


    Dustin Poirier by Sub
    dulux99 wrote: »
    Colby v Khabib, now there's a fight.
    Colby wins it. Khabib tires after round 3, Colby doesn't. And he has the wrestling to give Khabib trouble.

    Ugh, can't believe I'm picking Colby.


  • #503
    jimwallace197
    Registered Users Posts: 1,134 ✭✭✭jimwallace197


    Dustin Poirier by Sub
    I have to be honest, Saturday night was fairly predictable.

    Poirier is a reasonable fighter but I always felt he was in a higher position than he should have been due to luck primarily.

    I think Ferguson or a rejuvenated McGregor gives Khabib a much better fight and hopefully one of them ends up beating him.

    One of the main things the UFC has going for it is its unpredictability. Any champion can get caught and thats what makes it so fascinating imo.

    Khabib's dominance is starting to eradicate one of its few endearing qualities.


  • #504
    Gamb!t
    Registered Users Posts: 1,375 ✭✭✭Gamb!t


    Khabib Nurmagomedov on Points
    I wonder how much Khabbib will get for Dustin's tshirt for the charity ?


  • #505
    Fall_Guy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 776 ✭✭✭Fall_Guy


    Gamb!t wrote: »
    I wonder how much Khabbib will get for Dustin's tshirt for the charity ?

    Not as much as he could afford to pay for it himself! A nice gesture for sure, but when you have just made a few million for your nights work, you'd think he could have offered up a small percentage of his purse for the charity himself rather than a t-shirt that someone much less well-off than him will be shelling out for :D


  • #506
    spix
    Registered Users Posts: 2,577 ✭✭✭spix


    Khabib knows once hes against bigger guys, his chance of winning is gone. He makes sure when GSP fight is talked about that is has to be at 155, and says he is a lightweight when asked if he'd move up to 170. Once he can't control a bigger opponent he will go from dominating to being dominated, no in between.


  • #507
    Wayne Jarvis
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,076 ✭✭✭Wayne Jarvis


    Cupp3r wrote: »
    Go to Gregor's Instagram it's some time late last year. Gregor against Adam Busiello. Adam is a top grade wrestler and Gregor shows his class.
    https://www.instagram.com/p/BnuJXzshN87/
    https://www.instagram.com/p/BnuI7gkB9es/


  • #508
    Cupp3r
    Registered Users Posts: 128 ✭✭Cupp3r


    Guy Person wrote: »
    https://www.instagram.com/p/BnuJXzshN87/
    https://www.instagram.com/p/BnuI7gkB9es/

    Thank you


  • #509
    MrStuffins
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    Dustin Poirier by KO/TKO
    I must say, the logic disappoints me.

    Someone comes along who is the very best at his weight class, beats all comers and looks dominant in doing it and it's HIS fault that he's not disadvantaging himself and fighting bigger and stronger guys than him and until he does he hasn't proven himself?

    Khabib, Jon Jones, Anderson Silva, Mighty Mouse......... it's happened to them all.

    For some people, being the best isn't good enough.


  • #510
    The Nal
    Registered Users Posts: 12,420 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    MrStuffins wrote: »
    I must say, the logic disappoints me.

    Someone comes along who is the very best at his weight class, beats all comers and looks dominant in doing it and it's HIS fault that he's not disadvantaging himself and fighting bigger and stronger guys than him and until he does he hasn't proven himself?

    Khabib, Jon Jones, Anderson Silva, Mighty Mouse......... it's happened to them all.

    For some people, being the best isn't good enough.

    A lot of McGregor fanboys are reluctant to acknowledge his greatness. However I do think he needs another couple of top 5 wins to cement that legacy. He hasn't really beaten a great (Ferguson) yet.


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  • #511
    eagle eye
    Registered Users Posts: 37,485 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    MrStuffins wrote:
    For some people, being the best isn't good enough.
    Can you name the great fighters he has fought?


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