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Another sexual assault at night in Dublin

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  • #32
    hill16bhoy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,029 ✭✭✭hill16bhoy


    DS86DS wrote: »
    Liberals and Commies are always predictable too.

    We have something called the Presumption of Innocence. It's one of the major cornerstones of a free society....and a protection from tyranny. As US founding father John Adams put it

    "It is more important that innocence be protected than it is that guilt be punished, for guilt and crimes are so frequent in this world that they cannot all be punished.

    But if innocence itself is brought to the bar and condemned, perhaps to die, then the citizen will say, 'whether I do good or whether I do evil is immaterial, for innocence itself is no protection,' and if such an idea as that were to take hold in the mind of the citizen that would be the end of security whatsoever.


    No doubt if Commies like you ever take over, the idea of Innocent until proven guilty will be gone out the window.

    Stuff like Habeus Corpus is a major obstacle to all Commies and an inconvenience when trying to put people who disagree with you into Gulags.
    It's hilarious to see you talking about "presumption of innocence" given you extend no such thing to anybody from an ethnic minority, and have been posting stuff like this all day:
    DS86DS wrote: »

    Alright I've had enough of the softie polite approach........When this lot gets deported, I would be thinking you lot would follow

    I will personally shine my boots and kick your reddened arses into outer space where the lot of you belong

    Yeah, you're obviously somebody who believes in due process and the law and all that, and not fascism. Oh wait.

    Brett Kavanaugh was not on trial. He was facing a congresssional hearing to ascertain whether he was of sufficiently good character to sit on the US Supreme Court, a position which demands unimpeachable character more than any other in civil society.

    Multiple credible allegations of sexual assault as well as Kavanaugh's perjury in his initial hearing and pathetic further perjury during the televised hearing on September 27th proved to any reasonable person (ie., people who aren't raving misgynists) that he was not fit to sit on any bench, never mind a Supreme Court bench.

    The hearing and the circus surrounding it effectively turned the whole thing into a kangaroo court against his accuser, Christine Blasey Ford, who was extremely credible, and who suffered numerous death threats and had to leave her home as a result of her coming forward.

    The credible allegations of two other accusers were not even investigated. Those women didn't even recieve an opportunity to tell their story at the hearing.

    One can presume you weren't sheddding too many tears over the threats and intimidation to Dr. Blasey Ford - your posts here show you perfectly fit the profile of the type of person who wholeheartedly approves of such.

    No doubt if Commies like you ever take over, the idea of Innocent until proven guilty will be gone out the window.

    "Commies like you".

    Christ, you're good. I'd say you were a real whizz on the college debating circuit with rhetoric like that.


  • #33
    pearcider
    Registered Users Posts: 1,033 ✭✭✭pearcider


    You’re some head banger hill16boy you’re the biggest troll on boards. Get a life you SJW snowflake.


  • #34
    hill16bhoy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,029 ✭✭✭hill16bhoy


    pearcider wrote: »
    You’re some head banger hill16boy you’re the biggest troll on boards.

    Wow, you reply to my reasoned, well written, knowledgable post with a one-sentence grunt.

    That's me told. :D

    It's "bhoy", by the way.


  • #35
    pearcider
    Registered Users Posts: 1,033 ✭✭✭pearcider


    You’re a sad case.


  • #36
    Assetbacked
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,969 ✭✭✭Assetbacked


    Jesus, another sexual assault being investigated in Dublin https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/crime/garda-investigate-alleged-sexual-assault-in-dublin-city-centre-37613980.html

    That's 3 in the last few days which have been reported in the news.


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  • #37
    Deebles McBeebles
    Registered Users Posts: 5,748 ✭✭✭Deebles McBeebles


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  • #38
    Mr. CooL ICE
    Registered Users Posts: 17,496 ✭✭✭✭Mr. CooL ICE


    Mod: There has already been another thread closed on the matter here. Any speculation on any suspect (and that includes overdone 'hilarious' references) will lead to cards/bans.


  • #39
    Assetbacked
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,969 ✭✭✭Assetbacked


    https://www.thejournal.ie/appeal-witnesses-sexual-assault-dublin-4390925-Dec2018/

    Jesus, a fifth sexual assault in Dublin. We are at epidemic levels. What the **** is going on.


  • #40
    The_Kew_Tour
    Registered Users Posts: 34,044 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    I hate saying it and I hope people understand what I mean, but I hope it same individual responsible for the few attacks.

    Would be easier to narrow down the **** and maybe not have worry about a few about.

    Most important is that women get help and all services they need. Feel for poor women. No words


  • #41
    Captain Obvious
    Registered Users Posts: 4,165 ✭✭✭Captain Obvious


    Assetbacked wrote: »
    https://www.thejournal.ie/appeal-witnesses-sexual-assault-dublin-4390925-Dec2018/

    Jesus, a fifth sexual assault in Dublin. We are at epidemic levels. What the **** is going on.


    I hate to be the one to break it to you but this is probably not an unusual amount of assaults. What's unusual is they are being reported in the news.


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  • #42
    fryup
    Registered Users Posts: 18,069 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    in this day & age of online filth, its only going to get worse


  • #43
    Assetbacked
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,969 ✭✭✭Assetbacked


    Captain Obvious wrote: »
    I hate to be the one to break it to you but this is probably not an unusual amount of assaults. What's unusual is they are being reported in the news.

    "probably" - how certain are you and based on what?


  • #44
    WillieMason
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 320 ✭✭WillieMason


    fryup wrote: »
    in this day & age of online filth, its only going to get worse

    Hey man dont be blaming boards.ie


  • #45
    strandroad
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,676 ✭✭✭strandroad


    Assetbacked wrote: »
    https://www.thejournal.ie/appeal-witnesses-sexual-assault-dublin-4390925-Dec2018/

    Jesus, a fifth sexual assault in Dublin. We are at epidemic levels. What the **** is going on.

    What this brings to light is how you can't win on a night out. It's all something we're well trained in as women but you really can't win.
    You walk home, you're at risk.
    You take a taxi, you're at risk.
    You accept a lift, you're at risk.
    You stay at the party, you're at risk.

    It's somewhat positive that even After Hours is not telling these women what they should have done instead, possibly in recognition of the above?

    In other news, the alleged victim of the sportsman rape is afraid to give statement, even though she was injured and there were witnesses at the party. I can't blame her for not wanting to go through a Cork/Belfast/Tinder trial situation with the added sports fans hounding her and her child(ren), and the obvious "she's after his money" accusations.
    https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/mum-who-claims-sports-star-raped-her-afraid-to-give-statement-37621896.html
    Can any action be taken without her statement?


  • #46
    Captain Obvious
    Registered Users Posts: 4,165 ✭✭✭Captain Obvious


    Assetbacked wrote: »
    "probably" - how certain are you and based on what?



    The CSO figures on rape and the Rape Crisis Center figures on reporting incidents.


  • #47
    Feisar
    Registered Users Posts: 6,597 ✭✭✭Feisar


    fryup wrote: »
    in this day & age of online filth, its only going to get worse

    And computer games cause violence.

    First they came for the socialists...



  • #48
    Deebles McBeebles
    Registered Users Posts: 5,748 ✭✭✭Deebles McBeebles


    Feisar wrote: »
    And computer games cause violence.

    I thought that was Judas Priest and Kiss?


  • #49
    fryup
    Registered Users Posts: 18,069 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    well they contribute to it, they desensitise some people to violence


  • #50
    Tchaikovsky
    Registered Users Posts: 2,185 ✭✭✭Tchaikovsky


    Deebles McBeebles wrote: »
    I thought that was Judas Priest and Kiss?

    And I thought that was for Satanic worship?


  • #51
    Deebles McBeebles
    Registered Users Posts: 5,748 ✭✭✭Deebles McBeebles


    Tchaikovsky wrote: »
    And I thought that was for Satanic worship?

    I just rolled all the outrage into one. I'm sure some idiot American politician accused them of it at some stage.


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  • #52
    tritium
    Registered Users Posts: 7,411 ✭✭✭tritium


    Deebles McBeebles wrote: »
    I thought that was Judas Priest and Kiss?

    It changes, depends on what the fringe yooff are into at any time


  • #53
    tritium
    Registered Users Posts: 7,411 ✭✭✭tritium


    Captain Obvious wrote: »
    I hate to be the one to break it to you but this is probably not an unusual amount of assaults. What's unusual is they are being reported in the news.

    The stats would certainly support your statement, and indeed the number is tiny compared to, for example, the number of violent assaults that will have happened in the same period- that’s not actually an epidemic yet, so this certainly isn’t. Interesting that it gets that reaction though....

    I did think it odd that so many instances of sexual crimes were suddenly being prominently reported while other crimes continue to be largely ignored as front page news. I can’t belive that, at a time when the laws in this area are being reviewed, some media outlets might be pushing an agenda. That would be unethical after all and our journalists are supposed to be the good guys and gals


  • #54
    topper75
    Registered Users Posts: 5,942 ✭✭✭topper75


    rossie1977 wrote: »
    I would imagine liberals and commies would have a vastly different stance on crime and punishment. The Dutch and the North Koreans are not very much alike to my knowledge anyway.

    Life in much the Netherlands is conservative and dull. Whole villages and towns full of people who live to work. The drugs and brothels are Amsterdam 'tourist' pursuits largely.

    NK on the other hand is most certainly communist and free enterprise is actively repressed at every turn.


  • #55
    Franz Von Peppercorn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,070 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn


    strandroad wrote: »
    What this brings to light is how you can't win on a night out. It's all something we're well trained in as women but you really can't win.
    You walk home, you're at risk.
    You take a taxi, you're at risk.
    You accept a lift, you're at risk.
    You stay at the party, you're at risk.

    It's somewhat positive that even After Hours is not telling these women what they should have done instead, possibly in recognition of the above?

    In other news, the alleged victim of the sportsman rape is afraid to give statement, even though she was injured and there were witnesses at the party. I can't blame her for not wanting to go through a Cork/Belfast/Tinder trial situation with the added sports fans hounding her and her child(ren), and the obvious "she's after his money" accusations.
    https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/mum-who-claims-sports-star-raped-her-afraid-to-give-statement-37621896.html
    Can any action be taken without her statement?

    Too afraid? Afraid of the sports stars connections? Odd.


  • #56
    strandroad
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,676 ✭✭✭strandroad


    Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »
    Too afraid? Afraid of the sports stars connections? Odd.

    Some sports disciplines are full of dodgy connections alright. But also she has similar evidence to what the Belfast girl had and that came to nothing after all, why would you subject yourself to the process and the abuse.


  • #57
    Feisar
    Registered Users Posts: 6,597 ✭✭✭Feisar


    topper75 wrote: »
    Life in much the Netherlands is conservative and dull. Whole villages and towns full of people who live to work. The drugs and brothels are Amsterdam 'tourist' pursuits largely.

    NK on the other hand is most certainly communist and free enterprise is actively repressed at every turn.

    Have you lived in the Netherlands? Sound bunch of lads.

    Have the whole work/life balance thing sorted. I work in construction and was on a few projects over there.

    Me: "lads can ye come in Saterday?"
    Dutch lads: "LOL"

    Also wild on a night out. And every wee village and town has a proper festival during the summer.

    First they came for the socialists...



  • #58
    Kivaro
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭Kivaro


    strandroad wrote: »
    .......
    Can any action be taken without her statement?

    You mean arrest the "alleged" rapist and bring him to court and convict him, without her statement or without the need for her to give evidence in court?

    The speculation on this and other similar threads is astounding.
    If the woman was raped, I hope she gets justice and the perpetrator given a long prison sentence.
    If the woman was not raped, I hope the accused gets justice.
    That's the way the system should work.


  • #59
    orourkeda1977
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,628 ✭✭✭orourkeda1977


    hill16bhoy wrote: »
    Depends.

    If he's white, he's innocent.

    If he's not white, string him up!

    That's the way it's going these days in this brave new world of the far-right troll-flooded INTERNET.

    You reckon?


  • #60
    Grayson
    Registered Users Posts: 16,119 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    tritium wrote: »
    The stats would certainly support your statement, and indeed the number is tiny compared to, for example, the number of violent assaults that will have happened in the same period- that’s not actually an epidemic yet, so this certainly isn’t. Interesting that it gets that reaction though....

    I did think it odd that so many instances of sexual crimes were suddenly being prominently reported while other crimes continue to be largely ignored as front page news. I can’t belive that, at a time when the laws in this area are being reviewed, some media outlets might be pushing an agenda. That would be unethical after all and our journalists are supposed to be the good guys and gals

    If it bleeds it leads. Isn't that the newspaper motto? Newspapers, especially tabloids (and I'm including the indo there) love to report sensational news. It's not an agenda more than selling papers.

    The reason we're probably seeing more rapes reported is because there's a greater interest in that type of crime now. For years it was brushed under the carpet because the public didn't want to know.


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  • #61
    Grayson
    Registered Users Posts: 16,119 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    btw, according to these stats there's more than one rape a day in Ireland. And that's the official recorded statistic. Since it's an under reported crime, it's bound to be far more than that.
    https://www.thejournal.ie/rape-stats-rise-ireland-3929262-Mar2018/


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