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Chastisement from Abortion

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  • Registered Users Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    I see we've seem to have gone old testament. A bit of divine smoting in the form of the coronavirus?


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,684 ✭✭✭zimmermania


    It is the sin of abortion which will be the downfall of many nations and for this they will be punished severely.
    Sunday Jul 29, 2012 at 08:10 pm

    My dearly beloved daughter the apostasy in the world has God’s children confused about the existence of sin.

    Many souls, when they think of Sin, instantly think of the most grevious of sins such as murder.

    Sin takes many forms. Sadly because sin has been dismissed as faults or traits it is now deemed to be simply a natural weakness. Many no longer believe in sin.

    Abortion, after murder of one’s brother, is the greatest form of genocide in the world. Yet it is not only tolerated but laws are brought in by your nations which deem it a necessity.

    It is the sin of abortion which will be the downfall of many nations and for this they will be punished severely.

    Abortion is a despicable act and it wipes out generations of God’s children who cannot defend themselves.

    No one will kill a child of God and avoid severe punishment.

    The anger of My Father will be witnessed by those nations, who have legalised abortion, during the Chastisement.

    They will be wiped out and no compassion shown to them just as they showed no remorse for this mortal sin when they condoned the killing of God’s children in the womb.

    I call out to those who cunningly try to dismiss abortion as something which is needed to protect the rights of a mother.

    Lies are used to camouflage the atrocity of abortion which defies the Law of God.

    For this sin, any lawmaker, doctor or any person who contributes in any way to this abominable act, is guilty in the eyes of God and will suffer the punishment which lies ahead.

    To those who condone execution I say this.

    You, who condemn a man to be killed, are guilty of the same crime he may be guilty of.

    You are guilty of murder in this instance and it is a mortal sin. You have not been given the right to take a life. Or to judge. Only I, Jesus Christ, have the right to judge.

    Anyone who contributes to the death of a murderer, through the act of execution will suffer in the fire of Hell for eternity, unless they repent.

    So many of you believe in the law, an eye for an eye. How misguided you are. Do you not accept My Father’s Commandments? Thou shalt not kill.

    Thou shalt not kill also applies to those aggressive armies who march into lands which do not belong to them, in order to control.

    It applies to armies who shoot and kill innocent souls. All of this is murder. It is against the law of My Father.

    Other sins such as greed, lust, speaking ill of others, cheating people out of what is rightfully theirs, revenge and slander all lead to all other sins.

    They become acceptable in your world today because your greatest love is for yourselves.

    The lie, which you have been forced to swallow by your false teachers, self-gratification, is your path to sin.

    You are told that you must spend your time satisfying your hunger for wealth.

    You are told that you must look after yourself – that you are the most important person in your life. You must seek out everything to satisfy all your senses. Everyone else comes second.

    This leads to greed, selfishness, lust and then you can be enticed to commit mortal sin.

    Sin will now be accepted by your nations like never before.

    Laws will be introduced which will legalise mortal sin and woe to those of you who object.

    Those who will advocate such wickedness will tell you that these laws are to protect the vulnerable when, in fact, all they do is to legalise murder, abortion, same-sex marriage and the idolatry of false gods.

    They will condone the persecution of the poor and cast them out onto the streets to make paupers out of them.

    They will bring in laws to force you to stop practising your religion. By doing so you will be breaking the law – a sin in their eyes.

    As I told you before your world is so full of untruths that good is presented as evil and evil presented as good.

    Your world is back to front and, as a result, sin flourishes.

    I urge you to go back and study the Ten Commandments. Obey them and live as you are expected to in the eyes of My Father.

    Break the Commandments and you sin. Argue that certain sins are okay and you defy My Father.

    Obedience to the Laws of God is weak and fragile in the world at this time. Many of God’s children have not been told firmly, by My sacred servants, of the consequences of sin.

    Tolerance of sin is the greatest sin of all.

    Tolerance is a cunning lie planted in the minds of humanity by the king of lies, Satan.

    Tolerance is another way of justifying sin to suit man’s weakness for succumbing to the temptation of Satan.

    Wake up and accept sin for what it is.

    Argue amongst each other and defend sin all you like but it will never be acceptable in the eyes of My Father.

    To enter Paradise you must be free from sin.

    To become free from sin you must repent.

    To repent you must first of all accept the Ten Commandments.

    Then you must show true remorse.

    True remorse can only be felt by those who humble themselves before Me.

    Only then can sin be forgiven.

    Only then are souls fit to enter My Father’s Kingdom.

    Your Saviour
    Jesus Christ

    Get a grip.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 15,708 Mod ✭✭✭✭smacl


    Is it time to start blaming those who voted for abortion for causing Gods wrath in the form of the Covid 19 to be inflicted upon Ireland.

    Mod warning: Pleasing note that many people are suffering considerable stress, hardship and even death as a result of Covid-19. I consider your suggestion that people are somehow to blame for this as a result of the abortion referendum insensitive to the degree that I consider it trolling and have carded you on that basis. Please have some consideration for others here when posting.

    I also note that your last extensive post is simply a cut & paste from this book. Please attribute your sources and post your own comments rather than walls of someone else's text in future. Failing to do so will be treated as soap-boxing and dealt with accordingly.

    Thanks for your attention


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 15,708 Mod ✭✭✭✭smacl


    Deagol wrote: »
    Seriously, and I mean this sincerely. You need to go to your doctor and have your meds increased.

    That is some seriously sick thing to say - I can genuinely only imagine that someone with very serious mental issues would say such a thing as to blame their fellow humans for what is a purely natural chance of nature.

    Mod warning: Attack the post and not the poster. Thanks for your attention.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    Is it time to start blaming those who voted for abortion for causing Gods wrath in the form of the Covid 19 to be inflicted upon Ireland.

    If i was him, I would have just fixed the election result. I don't know it just seems less extreme to me than killing 10's of thousands of unrelated people all around the world.

    But then, that's just me i suppose:D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,301 ✭✭✭John Hutton


    Funny that he never punished the abusers in his church.

    Wouldn't be so sure of that


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,480 ✭✭✭YbFocus


    I find it amazing in this day and age that people still hold belief in a magical person in the sky that makes a virus to make us realise the error of our ways.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 15,708 Mod ✭✭✭✭smacl


    YbFocus wrote: »
    I find it amazing in this day and age that people still hold belief in a magical person in the sky that makes a virus to make us realise the error of our ways.

    Mod warning: Note that this is not a forum where you're allowed mock the faith of others. Please read the charter, particularly points 3 and 6, before posting here again. Thanks for your attention.


  • Registered Users Posts: 33,876 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    I don't think its Gods Wrath....... but when a nation rejects God.... ie takes God out of schools, hospitals,institutions and introduces laws that goes against Gods laws and live lives completely cut off from God ..... Gods blessings and protection are no longer with that nation ..... evil and misfortune rise in those nations ...in irelands case its going to learn what life is like without Gods blessings.

    Yet over 90% of primary schools in this country are controlled by churches.
    They mustn't be doing it right...

    Life ain't always empty.



  • Registered Users Posts: 100 ✭✭10fathoms


    I truly hope OP gets it...


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 15,708 Mod ✭✭✭✭smacl


    10fathoms wrote: »
    I truly hope OP gets it...

    Mod warning: Carded for wishing ill health on another poster and attacking the poster rather than the post. Please do not post here again until you have read and understood the charter. Thanks for your attention.


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,552 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    Is it time to start blaming those who voted for abortion for causing Gods wrath in the form of the Covid 19 to be inflicted upon Ireland.

    The Conspiracy Theories forum has more believable theories and that's saying something.

    If God had shares in biomedical manufacturing, it would possibly make sense. As a means to target people who facilitate abortion, it's a prettu inefficient and indiscriminate way to do it and means God would be guilty of killing plenty of his innocent children which makes God a pretty despicable hypocrite.

    But that would be if there was some divine intervention to cause COVID-19. There isn't.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    If covid was punishment for anything be it abortion, greed, whatever wouldn't it make sense to let us know that or is it supposed to be a big guessing game?

    What are the dead children being punished for?


  • Posts: 5,917 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    eviltwin wrote: »
    If covid was punishment for anything be it abortion, greed, whatever wouldn't it make sense to let us know that or is it supposed to be a big guessing game?

    What are the dead children being punished for?

    Depending on the version of the bible you have, its covered under Matthew 19:14?

    According to a member of the dup and our OP, its due to gay marriage and abortion.
    So apparently God is fine with politicians like this members party advocating that people be treated like second class citizens and worse due to the fact that they are a different religion, because that isn't something that can ever cause problems.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    eviltwin wrote: »
    If covid was punishment for anything be it abortion, greed, whatever wouldn't it make sense to let us know that or is it supposed to be a big guessing game?

    What are the dead children being punished for?

    Covid isn’t punishment for anything. The human race has been busy destroying everything that God gave us for financial gain and nature has turned on us with this tiny little speck that is causing misery and pain and the destruction of our ill gotten economic wealth. You have to consider that it is the wealthiest greediest most spoilt countries that are suffering the worst and wonder why. When this is over we will be brought back down to earth and we will know that love is the only thing that matters.


  • Posts: 5,917 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    splinter65 wrote: »
    Covid isn’t punishment for anything. The human race has been busy destroying everything that God gave us for financial gain and nature has turned on us with this tiny little speck that is causing misery and pain and the destruction of our ill gotten economic wealth. You have to consider that it is the wealthiest greediest most spoilt countries that are suffering the worst and wonder why. When this is over we will be brought back down to earth and we will know that love is the only thing that matters.

    You've claimed several times in different threads that it and the measures against it were due to socialism/communism


  • Registered Users Posts: 33,876 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    As a means to target people who facilitate abortion, it's a prettu inefficient and indiscriminate way to do it and means God would be guilty of killing plenty of his innocent children which makes God a pretty despicable hypocrite.

    You mean like when he flooded an entire planet and killed off everyone except a single family?

    Life ain't always empty.



  • Registered Users Posts: 33,876 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    splinter65 wrote: »
    You have to consider that it is the wealthiest greediest most spoilt countries that are suffering the worst and wonder why. When this is over we will be brought back down to earth and we will know that love is the only thing that matters.

    Yep nothing like megadeaths to prove how much god loves us.

    Iran is far from a greediest or most spoilt country, they do worship the wrong god though.

    Just wait until this thing gets going in Africa and elsewhere. It's just a matter of time. If first world countries with advanced health systems get overwhelmed and have ~20% of those admitted to hospital die, you can guarantee it'll be much worse in countries with less advanced health systems.

    Life ain't always empty.



  • Registered Users Posts: 24,552 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    You mean like when he flooded an entire planet and killed off everyone except a single family?

    Were there bats on the ark, I wonder.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,148 ✭✭✭Salary Negotiator


    splinter65 wrote: »
    Covid isn’t punishment for anything. The human race has been busy destroying everything that God gave us for financial gain and nature has turned on us with this tiny little speck that is causing misery and pain and the destruction of our ill gotten economic wealth.

    God’s will though.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 308 ✭✭harrylittle


    eviltwin wrote: »
    If covid was punishment for anything be it abortion, greed, whatever wouldn't it make sense to let us know that or is it supposed to be a big guessing game?

    What are the dead children being punished for?

    A big guessing game ? that's why God gave us churches , priests, the bible,books, the internet, even hollywood films to know these things ...this generation was given more access to knowledge on religious matters than any generation before it.

    The ten commandments is universally known world wide from kindergarden up especially number 5 thou salt not kill ..which also includes abortion....see link below


    What caused children to die was it from a virus made in a lab made by man ? why was it made and why was it released ? Anyhow any deceased children / and the innocent are going home to a far better place than from this temporary holding facility called earth .

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dnx8Yuyo1o&list=PLlCsZYL9cCWmrJCq_1ncTpjbRmE_eTSdy&index=4


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 15,708 Mod ✭✭✭✭smacl


    A big guessing game ? that's why God gave us churches , priests, the bible,books, the internet, even hollywood films to know these things ...this generation was given more access to knowledge on religious matters than any generation before it.

    The ten commandments is universally known world wide from kindergarden up especially number 5 thou salt not kill ..which also includes abortion....see link below


    What caused children to die was it from a virus made in a lab made by man ? why was it made and why was it released ? Anyhow any deceased children / and the innocent are going home to a far better place than from this temporary holding facility called earth .

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dnx8Yuyo1o&list=PLlCsZYL9cCWmrJCq_1ncTpjbRmE_eTSdy&index=4

    Are you seriously trying to support you're argument with a clip from the 1956 Charlton Heston movie? As for the rest of it, you might do better on the conspiracy theory forums.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,684 ✭✭✭zimmermania


    God’s will though.
    How do you know that god exists?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,148 ✭✭✭Salary Negotiator


    How do you know that god exists?

    He doesn’t.

    But if he did and covid-19 was sent by god then he would be punishing people for carrying out his will.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 15,708 Mod ✭✭✭✭smacl


    How do you know that god exists?
    He doesn’t.

    But if he did and covid-19 was sent by god then he would be punishing people for carrying out his will.

    Mod: As per the charter, all discussion speculating about the existence of God should be confined to this mega-thread. Thanks for your attention.


  • Registered Users Posts: 335 ✭✭NaFirinne


    Hasn't anyone actually read scripture here.....We are coming close to the end of the age....There are lot more world changing events that will happen over the next 10 to 15 years.

    It is what it is. There will be a mass turning away from GOD, we see that...which will in turn cause more and more disasters. But even with this people won't change their stubborn ways until the 2nd coming occurs.

    I pray that people might be willing to turn from the ways of the wicked to be redeemed through Christ Jesus.


  • Registered Users Posts: 308 ✭✭harrylittle


    The jews were put into exile for 70 years after being disobedient to Gods laws and taken captive by the Babylonians .. ... is the same happening now with the Irish after voting for abortion, same sex marriage ect ... that they will be invaded and the lands taken from them

    ..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icgXLM2qKqU


  • Posts: 5,917 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The jews were put into exile for 70 years after being disobedient to Gods laws and taken captive by the Babylonians .. ... is the same happening now with the Irish after voting for abortion, same sex marriage ect ... that they will be invaded and the lands taken from them

    ..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icgXLM2qKqU

    Mental health forum is two doors down, might be worth a visit. It's better for you than the conspiracy theorists your following and posting.


  • Registered Users Posts: 335 ✭✭NaFirinne


    DubInMeath wrote: »
    Mental health forum is two doors down, might be worth a visit. It's better for you than the conspiracy theorists your following and posting.


    Well there's no need for the invasion part - we have a government that are only 2 willing to give up Irish lands to whoever wants it.


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 15,708 Mod ✭✭✭✭smacl


    DubInMeath wrote: »
    Mental health forum is two doors down, might be worth a visit.

    Mod warning: This line of insinuation is both unpleasant and entirely unacceptable. Next time will result in a card.


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