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The Weird, Wacky and Awesome World of the NFL - General Banter thread V3

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    #4832
    Foxtrol
    Registered Users Posts: 11,006 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    munstermagic11 wrote: »
    The NFL are hamstrung by the actions of US officials. From the President to some state Governors, it's been a mess over there. We'll probably see major roster/gameday impact at somepoint.

    NFL owners can blame themselves if the season doesn't go ahead.

    They can put huge political pressure when they want to but they have chosen to sit in silence and let Trump and the GOP make a complete mess of dealing with the virus.


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    #4833
    j8wk2feszrnpao
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,438 ✭✭✭j8wk2feszrnpao


    Loughc wrote: »
    Record number of increases 3 Days in a row. This is getting worse before it’s getting better. The 2020 season will not go ahead. Just can’t with the current number of cases or even half that.
    Toronto v D.C. United was cancelled last night in the MLS (set to go ahead 24hrs later). 1 positive test and one inconclusive. And then you see FC Dallas withdraw altogether due to 10 players and one member of the technical staff testing positive.

    And that's with smaller roster sizes for MLS teams. Once they start testing 90 man rosters at training camp, we might get a better picture of how things look.


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    #4834
    Loughc
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 24,728 Mod ✭✭✭✭Loughc


    munstermagic11 wrote: »
    Toronto v D.C. United was cancelled last night in the MLS (set to go ahead 24hrs later). 1 positive test and one inconclusive. And then you see FC Dallas withdraw altogether due to 10 players and one member of the technical staff testing positive.

    And that's with smaller roster sizes for MLS teams. Once they start testing 90 man rosters at training camp, we might get a better picture of how things look.

    Even during a normal NFL off-season the players can't behave themselves, so unless the players have self isolated the entire off season I can't see this going ahead.


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    #4835
    helimachoptor
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 21,640 Mod ✭✭✭✭helimachoptor


    I see it going ahead in some format, NFL is too greedy.
    and id say a lot of the non superstar players want their money tbh.

    NFL will tell players to self isolate with family, lots of testing but as said above you'll have more than a few that want a chick-fil-a and go out and break the nfl lockdown or whatever.

    Cant see many fans if any at all being in stadiums.


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    #4836
    mikemac2
    Registered Users Posts: 2,926 ✭✭✭mikemac2


    The stadiums can pipe in crowd noise. If they need advice they can ask the Falcons who lost a draft pick in 2016 for doing just this ;)


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    #4837
    eagle eye
    Registered Users Posts: 37,505 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    helimachoptor wrote:
    NFL is too greedy..
    This right here. They'll weigh up going ahead versus damage to their brand and if going ahead is a better money decision it'll happen.


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    #4838
    ArmaniJeanss
    Registered Users Posts: 13,293 ✭✭✭✭ArmaniJeanss


    Is it possible to re-do the fixture list such that teams only play division games and 'local' games? Cuts out a huge percentage of the need for air-travel, overnights in multiple hotels etc.
    Obviously NFC East is still a problem geographically, and the West coast has big distances between the closest teams. But I'm sure something imaginative could be done as a once-off.


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    #4839
    Hococop
    Registered Users Posts: 5,737 ✭✭✭Hococop


    ArmaniJeanss wrote: »
    Is it possible to re-do the fixture list such that teams only play division games and 'local' games? Cuts out a huge percentage of the need for air-travel, overnights in multiple hotels etc.
    Obviously NFC East is still a problem geographically, and the West coast has big distances between the closest teams. But I'm sure something imaginative could be done as a once-off.

    Dallas be the only issue there


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    #4840
    Always Be Closing
    Registered Users Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭Always Be Closing


    Chris Jones re-signing for 4 more years

    Get in :)

    What a time to be alive

    #chiefskingdom


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    #4841
    Foxtrol
    Registered Users Posts: 11,006 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    Always Be Closing wrote: »
    Chris Jones re-signing for 4 more years

    Get in :)

    What a time to be alive

    #chiefskingdom

    Great re-signing.

    Interested in seeing the structure. From the numbers we have so far $1m more than the contract Buckner, a close comp to him, got at the start of the offseason but $20m more guaranteed money.

    Going to take some cap magic and praying for no serious injuries to keep things on the right track. Things could get very interesting for them if the cap drops next year (as it will for several teams).


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    #4842
    Always Be Closing
    Registered Users Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭Always Be Closing


    Foxtrol wrote: »
    Great re-signing.

    Interested in seeing the structure. From the numbers we have so far $1m more than the contract Buckner, a close comp to him, got at the start of the offseason but $20m more guaranteed money.

    Going to take some cap magic and praying for no serious injuries to keep things on the right track. Things could get very interesting for them if the cap drops next year (as it will for several teams).

    Brett Veach has been impeccable as a GM so far so I have full trust in him. Obviously Tyreek and Kelce will have to be paid soon- hopefully we can somehow hold onto both


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    #4843
    BonnieSituation
    Registered Users Posts: 18,921 ✭✭✭✭BonnieSituation


    Hococop wrote: »
    Dallas be the only issue there

    I think we all know that proposed solution will have everyone decamping to JerryWorld.


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    #4844
    Jofspring
    Registered Users Posts: 4,003 ✭✭✭Jofspring


    https://www.si.com/nfl/2020/07/14/kabeer-gbaja-biamila-kgb-new-religious-movement-school-play-incident

    This is Part 1. Seems mental.


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    #4845
    Foxtrol
    Registered Users Posts: 11,006 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    Given the supply of quality of RBs out there, the Henry deal looks like another one team a team may live to regret.

    Browns did a good job signing Garrett long term. Again, crazy numbers but I don't think we've even seen yet how good he'll end up being and it is a position that is generally relatively durable.


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    #4846
    AbusesToilets
    Registered Users Posts: 9,957 ✭✭✭AbusesToilets


    Jofspring wrote: »
    https://www.si.com/nfl/2020/07/14/kabeer-gbaja-biamila-kgb-new-religious-movement-school-play-incident

    This is Part 1. Seems mental.

    Religion.

    Not even once


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    #4847
    Foxtrol
    Registered Users Posts: 11,006 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    Interesting heat map by the NFLPA. Shows what a challenge getting the season going will be, especially how the states of some of the most impacted teams have the loosest regulations.

    https://twitter.com/MySportsUpdate/status/1283771706960760833?s=20


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    #4848
    Itssoeasy
    Registered Users Posts: 39,438 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    The mayor of Pittsburgh was on MSNBC two nights ago about the spike in coronavirus cases around them in Ohio and the presenter Brian Williams(who apparently is a steelers fan) asked the odds of their being football in Pittsburgh this coming season and he didn't say their wouldn't but didn't say yes either. To me it seemed he didn't want to be definitive one way or the other and we are in July.

    Some of the stuff from officials in Louisiana, Florida, Georgia around this virus isn't helping about getting games back.


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    #4849
    bogmanfan
    Registered Users Posts: 1,700 ✭✭✭bogmanfan


    I would say the chances of games with fans in the stadium are practically zero. Even if some cities are willing to risk it, you would need a consensus.

    The Premier League model is the only way we'll have games this season. It shouldn't be too difficult to keep players and officials safe with regular testing. I'd have thought the TV money available would justify playing the games in empty grounds. Plus they could schedule games over the full week in order to show them all on tv.


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    #4850
    Oat23
    Registered Users Posts: 15,171 ✭✭✭✭Oat23


    The Redskins are outdoing themselves right now. All their minority shareholders have come together and hired the same company to find a buyer for their shares in the team according to Schefter.

    Everyone used to joke "Bruce Allen must have some dirt on Snyder to keep his job this long" and it was probably true.


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    #4851
    Foxtrol
    Registered Users Posts: 11,006 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    bogmanfan wrote: »
    I would say the chances of games with fans in the stadium are practically zero. Even if some cities are willing to risk it, you would need a consensus.

    The Premier League model is the only way we'll have games this season. It shouldn't be too difficult to keep players and officials safe with regular testing. I'd have thought the TV money available would justify playing the games in empty grounds. Plus they could schedule games over the full week in order to show them all on tv.

    For starts, some players testing positive could mean a death sentence for them due to underlying conditions. Even ignoring that, what happens if your QB room gets hit by it and they all test positive before a game. What happens if a player takes snaps at DT and DE tests positive after a game, does his whole team quarantine or just the DL room, what about the opposing OL, QB, RB, TE?

    Even on a financial basis, right now the owners want COVID to be deemed as a non-football injury, meaning players wont have to be paid.

    As more weeks go by it continues to seem like the NFL have their heads in the sand.


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    #4852
    jack presley
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    Oat23 wrote: »
    The Redskins are outdoing themselves right now. All their minority shareholders have come together and hired the same company to find a buyer for their shares in the team according to Schefter.

    Everyone used to joke "Bruce Allen must have some dirt on Snyder to keep his job this long" and it was probably true.

    Washington Post are about to break an 'explosive' story (bombshell is another word been used to describe it) about the running of the team by Dan Snyder.

    it's been rumoured to break for a couple of days now so they're obviously lawyering up and making sure they've every fact checked and double checked.

    We already know about the pimping out of cheerleaders to corporate box holders so it's probably something worse than that.


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    #4853
    raze_them_all_
    Registered Users Posts: 6,744 ✭✭✭raze_them_all_


    Apparently it's proper pimping too. Sexual abuse allegations too


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    #4854
    Foxtrol
    Registered Users Posts: 11,006 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    jack presley wrote: »
    Washington Post are about to break an 'explosive' story (bombshell is another word been used to describe it) about the running of the team by Dan Snyder.

    it's been rumoured to break for a couple of days now so they're obviously lawyering up and making sure they've every fact checked and double checked.

    We already know about the pimping out of cheerleaders to corporate box holders so it's probably something worse than that.

    I'm shocked that wasn't the end of him. It is amazing what acts some owners get away with and the league just moves on.

    It is obvious now that the name change was trying to get some positive PR in advance of this story coming out. If it is anywhere near what is being speculated I don't see how he isn't forced out.


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    #4855
    jack presley
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    raze_them_all_ wrote: »
    Apparently it's proper pimping too. Sexual abuse allegations too

    Hopefully a Jerry Richardson type result after it all comes out.


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    #4856
    jack presley
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    Report up on Washington Post now. Sexual harassment over a long period of time. Mainly by the 3 who either resigned or got the sack earlier this week.

    Obviously sexual harassment is bad but it's not the 'bombshell' we thought it would be and probably means Snyder isn't going anywhere anytime soon.


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    #4857
    jack presley
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    ESPN Sportcenter having a special show for the revealing of the Madden ratings. Seriously? Is that a thing now?


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    #4858
    kmart6
    Registered Users Posts: 15,172 ✭✭✭✭kmart6


    jack presley wrote: »
    ESPN Sportcenter having a special show for the revealing of the Madden ratings. Seriously? Is that a thing now?
    Not sure if it's been a thing before this season but can somewhat understand them doing it now since they have nothing really to show at the minute. Wouldn't watch it myself but it helps them fill up gaps.


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    #4859
    Itssoeasy
    Registered Users Posts: 39,438 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    A lot of players are tweeting about not being happy about the safety measures proposed by the NFL to keep them and as many stress their families safe. It seems the NFL aren't listening to their own health experts. Now it looks coordinated in terms of timing but I wouldn't say the sentiment is coordinated because the only thing the exact same is the hashtag #wewanttoplay but that's it really. It's hardly shocking really given that training camps are meant to start soon.


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    #4860
    Jofspring
    Registered Users Posts: 4,003 ✭✭✭Jofspring


    Jets and Giants saying regardless of what the NFL do there will be no fans allowed at MetLife stadium for games and also no one allowed at the work outs.


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    #4861
    Guffy
    Registered Users Posts: 8,033 ✭✭✭Guffy


    Jofspring wrote: »
    Jets and Giants saying regardless of what the NFL do there will be no fans allowed at MetLife stadium for games and also no one allowed at the work outs.

    This is just common sense.


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