Premiership Rugby 2019-20

Dog Botherer · 06-12-2019 4:34pm

Madigan is reportedly on far too much money to be lining out for the B team and might well be on the way out. not inconceivable he returns to Ireland.

Tigerandahalf · 06-12-2019 5:48pm

His contract is up at the end of the year. Ulster might be his only hope with the other provinces well served. He will end up at another English club. His goalkicking stats are good enough to attract a club.

irishbucsfan · 06-12-2019 5:51pm

He’d struggle to start at any of the provinces

OldRio · 28-12-2019 3:50pm

Quinn's v Leicester live on Channel 5 at 4.30 today.
Yup I'm bored.

RugbyLover123 · 03-01-2020 10:06pm

Brain dead from Joe Marler there. Hasn’t given his team a chance in this game now..

Burkie1203 · 04-01-2020 2:09pm

Have Tigers installed a screen in front of the coaches area since Geordans row with a fan recently?

Interested Observer · 04-01-2020 2:20pm

I think Madigan is on the bench today for once. Not sure he's played yet this season.

Squidgy Black · 04-01-2020 2:27pm

Interested Observer wrote: »

I think Madigan is on the bench today for once. Not sure he's played yet this season.

Nope hasn't gotten a single minute ahead of Sheedy or Lloyd, was playing for their A team for a couple of games.

Interested Observer · 04-01-2020 3:24pm

Funny old game. Leicester had a handy lead, Bristol score and convert, then run the pitch directly from the restart to score again. Wasn't even a tackle completed or a ruck, went the length of the field. No conversion but 12 points scored in about 90 seconds and game on again.

Squidgy Black · 05-01-2020 7:19pm

Another loss for London Irish and Leicester picking up a win means there's now only two points between the two teams, and LI have Northampton away for their next Premiership game, then Quins and Gloucester, whereas Leicester have Bath then Wasps, so good chance they'll end up at the bottom of the table by the end of February.

Jackson's out with a hamstring injury, hasn't played at 10 since their win against Wasps mid October, had a couple of starts at 15.

prawnsambo · 06-01-2020 2:50pm

Saracens new (old) boss Edward Griffiths talking about immediate salary and/or job cuts to meet the salary cap as early as possible this season.

Interested Observer · 06-01-2020 2:56pm

Squidgy Black wrote: »

Another loss for London Irish and Leicester picking up a win means there's now only two points between the two teams, and LI have Northampton away for their next Premiership game, then Quins and Gloucester, whereas Leicester have Bath then Wasps, so good chance they'll end up at the bottom of the table by the end of February.

Jackson's out with a hamstring injury, hasn't played at 10 since their win against Wasps mid October, had a couple of starts at 15.

I've watched bits of LI and Leicester's last few games and LI really look poor, which Leicester are definitely improving now all their RWC players are properly back. They lost Ford, Youngs, Tuilagi, May, Cole all to the RWC. On their current trajectories I definitely think Leicester will finish ahead of LI.

prawnsambo · 06-01-2020 3:23pm

Also on the subject of Saracens, Exeter have said that the £350,000 they will get as their share of the Saracen's fine is going to charity.

Squidgy Black · 06-01-2020 4:07pm

prawnsambo wrote: »

Saracens new (old) boss Edward Griffiths talking about immediate salary and/or job cuts to meet the salary cap as early as possible this season.

Interesting, before Christmas Wray was insistent that they were in regulation of the salary cap for this season, I'd say Griffiths must be getting some wage to be the hit man for all that's to come.

jr86 · 07-01-2020 10:03am

Squidgy Black wrote: »

Another loss for London Irish and Leicester picking up a win means there's now only two points between the two teams, and LI have Northampton away for their next Premiership game, then Quins and Gloucester, whereas Leicester have Bath then Wasps, so good chance they'll end up at the bottom of the table by the end of February.

Jackson's out with a hamstring injury, hasn't played at 10 since their win against Wasps mid October, had a couple of starts at 15.

Relegation for LI would be a disaster for Jackson. A second relegation in a row and as you say he hasn't even been first choice 10 for LI - hardly will have teams banging on his door, and that's not to mention all the baggage he carries.

I really couldn't see a Premiership Team signing him, I think he'd have no choice but to slug it out in the Championship and hope they bounce straight back up - which they surely would in fairness, but hardly ideal playing Championship rugby when pushing 30

Cookiemunster · 08-01-2020 5:19pm

Rugbypass reporting that George Kruis is off to Japan this summer. The first of the big England names to go?

conor678 · 09-01-2020 9:48am

Interesting. Also strong rumours of Liam Williams heading back to Scarlets before the end of the season. Be interesting what else comes out of all this salary cap stuff and who else will have to leave to balance the books

Cookiemunster · 09-01-2020 10:00am

conor678 wrote: »

Interesting. Also strong rumours of Liam Williams heading back to Scarlets before the end of the season. Be interesting what else comes out of all this salary cap stuff and who else will have to leave to balance the books

Liam Williams to Scarlets was officially announced over Christmas. Whether he leaves early or not is moot seeing as he's out injured for most of the season.

Whitters22 · 09-01-2020 10:50pm

Cookiemunster wrote: »

Liam Williams to Scarlets was officially announced over Christmas. Whether he leaves early or not is moot seeing as he's out injured for most of the season.

According to the 42 podcast he won't actually count towards the salary cap this year if he doesn't feature at all. Sounds odd but may be the reason behind cutting him early.

sydthebeat · 09-01-2020 11:21pm

According to the new saracens chief exec. On the greenwood podcast, once the team is in compliance on June 19 (I think its the date) then that's all that matters. It worth listening to

Dave_The_Sheep · 10-01-2020 1:09am

sydthebeat wrote: »

According to the new saracens chief exec. On the greenwood podcast, once the team is in compliance on June 19 (I think its the date) then that's all that matters. It worth listening to

I haven't thought this statement through really, but my initial reaction there is "So as long as they get rid of players at the end of the season, they can basically get away with another season of cheating".

molloyjh · 10-01-2020 8:33am

So it turns out that the initial punishment decided on for Saracens was a points deduction of 70 points. Hadbthat been applied they would have been relegated. The PRL decided that "wasn't in the spirit of the competition" and reduced that to 35 points. Now I understand that you cant have that many English players playing in the Championship, but imagine Leicester get relegated. A big name club that has done nothing wrong and actually acted quite prudently financially. Had the original punishment stuck Leicester would have been safe. They'd be paying the price to keep Saracens up should they go down. How pissed would they and their fans be? And rightly so. And how bad a message does that actually send?

Squidgy Black · 10-01-2020 9:12am

molloyjh wrote: »

So it turns out that the initial punishment decided on for Saracens was a points deduction of 70 points. Hadbthat been applied they would have been relegated. The PRL decided that "wasn't in the spirit of the competition" and reduced that to 35 points. Now I understand that you cant have that many English players playing in the Championship, but imagine Leicester get relegated. A big name club that has done nothing wrong and actually acted quite prudently financially. Had the original punishment stuck Leicester would have been safe. They'd be paying the price to keep Saracens up should they go down. How pissed would they and their fans be? And rightly so. And how bad a message does that actually send?

Guaranteeing Saracens relegation was never going to happen. The PRL and the RFU wouldn't send the biggest provider of national team players down into the second tier for a season.

But if I was a Leicester or London Irish fan, whoever gets relegated, I'd probably be more pissed off that despite the points deduction Sarries continued the season with zero squad changes for the first half of the season, with almost the exact same team that breached the salary cap for the previous season.

Common sense would have been that the PRL should have told them they wouldn't be receiving any points until they got their squad below the salary cap, and not just let them continue as is and fix it at the end of the season after they avoid regulation.

jr86 · 11-01-2020 10:20am

Rumours Jonny May could be on his way out in the summer

If Leicester do manage to survive they are absolutely goosed next season if he leaves. He single handedly won the game for them last weekend and is arguably the form wing in test rugby

Clegg · 11-01-2020 11:41am

jr86 wrote: »

Rumours Jonny May could be on his way out in the summer

If Leicester do manage to survive they are absolutely goosed next season if he leaves. He single handedly won the game for them last weekend and is arguably the form wing in test rugby

To Saracens is the rumour. There's be murder amongst the other clubs if that happened

Burkie1203 · 27-01-2020 10:02am

Sinckler confirmed to join Bristol

https://twitter.com/BristolBears/status/1221719496085463041?s=19

Clegg · 27-01-2020 10:03am

Burkie1203 wrote: »

Sinckler confirmed to join Bristol

https://twitter.com/BristolBears/status/1221719496085463041?s=19

Was about to post that. Massive blow for Harlequins and yet another big name, big money player for Bristol.

And one hell of an announcement video.

Squidgy Black · 27-01-2020 10:10am

Bristol's social media team are very good at their job.

Buer · 27-01-2020 10:45am

Clegg wrote: »

Was about to post that. Massive blow for Harlequins and yet another big name, big money player for Bristol.

And one hell of an announcement video.

I assume he'll be replacing Afoa who is surely retiring at this point.

Bristol splashed the cash when they were coming up but, when you actually look at their squad, I don't think they've too many stars at all. 2 or 3 properly big names and then some fringe internationals.

Scythica · 27-01-2020 11:24am

https://www.rugbypass.com/news/ireland-joe-schmidt-linked-to-bath-report/

huge if true!

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