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Should we drop Proportional Representation

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  • #212
    L1011
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 67,562 Mod ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Sam Russell wrote: »

    Having the vote on the same day as the Dail would remove the wannabe TD and the failed TD from standing. The Senate has too many failed TDs in its ranks.

    I would insist on replacement lists, not by-elections for that specific situation as you would not be reasonably able to stop people running for both elections and potentially getting elected in both. You would assume that all of those would reject the Seanad seat.

    Would still want by-elections for all other vacancies.


  • #213
    Sam Russell
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 19,357 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sam Russell


    L1011 wrote: »
    I would insist on replacement lists, not by-elections for that specific situation as you would not be reasonably able to stop people running for both elections and potentially getting elected in both. You would assume that all of those would reject the Seanad seat.

    Would still want by-elections for all other vacancies.

    No, you cannot run for both. Simples.

    Replacement lists works for councils, but not for the Dail. The Seanad has a bielection, but the electorate is the Dail TDs.


  • #214
    L1011
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 67,562 Mod ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Sam Russell wrote: »
    No, you cannot run for both. Simples.

    Replacement lists works for councils, but not for the Dail. The Seanad has a bielection, but the electorate is the Dail TDs.

    There are absolutely no other combo of elections where you're banned from running from both; even on the same day. Virtually nobody would run for the Seanad if you were so limited, unless the Seanad was also given massively increased powers.

    As goes by-elections, I am specifically talking about in your proposed system, not the current one.

    As it stands, councils don't use replacement lists; they usually use nominations by party members / the former councillor if Independent and can but rarely do go against them. And each council can actually choose what to do; countback (last eliminated) is an alternative that has been used in the past for Independents on some councils. Only Europe uses replacement lists currently.


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