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Weight gain of cattle bought in spring till fall

  • 16-09-2020 9:24pm
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    morphy87
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    I am just wondering if you bought cattle in the first week of April and had them on good grass for the year, new reseeded ground what weight gain would you be exspecting for the first week of November? The cattle would be limousines out of British freisian cows around 340kg,


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  • #2
    FarmerBrowne
    Registered Users Posts: 482 ✭✭FarmerBrowne


    morphy87 wrote: »
    I am just wondering if you bought cattle in the first week of April and had them on good grass for the year, new reseeded ground what weight gain would you be exspecting for the first week of November? The cattle would be limousines out of British freisian cows around 340kg,

    Should be around 500kg anyways if they were dosed properly during the year also.


  • #3
    Panch18
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,471 ✭✭✭Panch18


    FarmerBrowne wrote: »
    Should be around 500kg anyways if they were dosed properly during the year also.

    At a minimum 500kg

    You'd want to be putting on 180-200 kg as general rule in the summer grazing period, or more if the cattle were a hungry type when bought in


  • #4
    stanflt
    Registered Users Posts: 4,351 ✭✭✭stanflt


    Panch18 wrote: »
    At a minimum 500kg

    You'd want to be putting on 180-200 kg as general rule in the summer grazing period, or more if the cattle were a hungry type when bought in

    Rule of thumb for continentals is 1.1kg lwg per day from March till late October avg if grass is managed properly and I mean properly
    Fr bullocks will easy do 1kg


  • #5
    morphy87
    Registered Users Posts: 1,038 ✭✭✭morphy87


    Yeah I was thinking if they were 340 kgs going out you would be hoping by mid November to be hitting 550kgs


  • #6
    Cavanjack
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    morphy87 wrote: »
    Yeah I was thinking if they were 340 kgs going out you would be hoping by mid November to be hitting 550kgs

    If you are buying them too well done (like a lot of weanlings are In the spring) You won’t get them near 550kg. It’ll take them a couple of months to get going and you mightn’t even hit 500kg.


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  • #7
    Panch18
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,471 ✭✭✭Panch18


    Cavanjack wrote: »
    If you are buying them too well done (like a lot of weanlings are In the spring) You won’t get them near 550kg. It’ll take them a couple of months to get going and you mightn’t even hit 500kg.

    nothing worse than buying store cattle in the spring and they pumped with nuts - you are litterally paying for weight that wouldn't be there in a months time.

    A good hungry spring bullock though will turn inside out


  • #8
    TooOldBoots
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    Bought 10 limousine heifers mid march. They were hungry yearlings weighing a tad shy of 300kg. Paid €535 - €555 for them.
    Weighed this week they averaged 535kg. One of them was 585kg.
    No meal, just dose twice and on good grass. Very happy with they way they thrived, and caused me no hassle all summer. I think the yearling is the sweet spot for my land which is a bit heavy.
    I've tried the 2 year old, I've tried the big Charli, I've tried the puffed up Weanlings but none of them left me any profit. These heifers are now worth over the 1k mark which is a decent return.


  • #9
    Sillycave
    Registered Users Posts: 177 ✭✭Sillycave


    TooOldBoots wrote: »
    Bought 10 limousine heifers mid march. They were hungry yearlings weighing a tad shy of 300kg. Paid €535 - €555 for them.
    Weighed this week they averaged 535kg. One of them was 585kg.
    No meal, just dose twice and on good grass. Very happy with they way they thrived, and caused me no hassle all summer. I think the yearling is the sweet spot for my land which is a bit heavy.
    I've tried the 2 year old, I've tried the big Charli, I've tried the puffed up Weanlings but none of them left me any profit. These heifers are now worth over the 1k mark which is a decent return.

    You bought them cheap, where did u buy and what time of the year?
    They done well on the grass during the summer


  • #10
    charolais0153
    Registered Users Posts: 6,225 ✭✭✭charolais0153


    TooOldBoots wrote: »
    Bought 10 limousine heifers mid march. They were hungry yearlings weighing a tad shy of 300kg. Paid €535 - €555 for them.
    Weighed this week they averaged 535kg. One of them was 585kg.
    No meal, just dose twice and on good grass. Very happy with they way they thrived, and caused me no hassle all summer. I think the yearling is the sweet spot for my land which is a bit heavy.
    I've tried the 2 year old, I've tried the big Charli, I've tried the puffed up Weanlings but none of them left me any profit. These heifers are now worth over the 1k mark which is a decent return.

    To make money in beef, someone has to lose on them and the fella u bought then off is surely losing


  • #11
    kk.man
    Registered Users Posts: 3,414 ✭✭✭kk.man


    TooOldBoots wrote: »
    Bought 10 limousine heifers mid march. They were hungry yearlings weighing a tad shy of 300kg. Paid €535 - €555 for them.
    Weighed this week they averaged 535kg. One of them was 585kg.
    No meal, just dose twice and on good grass. Very happy with they way they thrived, and caused me no hassle all summer. I think the yearling is the sweet spot for my land which is a bit heavy.
    I've tried the 2 year old, I've tried the big Charli, I've tried the puffed up Weanlings but none of them left me any profit. These heifers are now worth over the 1k mark which is a decent return.

    Nice twist there TOB, I say your costs are 100e. Fine example of money in summer grazing.


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  • #12
    TooOldBoots
    Closed Accounts Posts: 604 ✭✭✭TooOldBoots


    Bought them in Ennis mart, in fairness they didn't look great the first day they had no meal got and were very slats dirty. I wasn't expecting them to do much, and I'd say I was the only one for them that day.
    I spoke to the lad that had them, turned out he got was stuck with them due to TB. He was happy to be offloading stock as I'd say he had some winter feed bill with all the extra stock on top of his dairy cows. He had another batch of whitehead heifers too, very similar to mine which in hindsight I should have bought.


  • #13
    Dakota Dan
    Registered Users Posts: 3,757 ✭✭✭Dakota Dan


    Sillycave wrote: »
    You bought them cheap, where did u buy and what time of the year?
    They done well on the grass during the summer

    I’d want to see proof, remember that old thread money in beef? The poster was asked for proof but could only give a shoddy looking receipt.


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