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Husky mauls child

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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Hooked wrote: »
    Nail on the head Ann22. Their colouring IS similar. As are many other mixes/crosses. And that's my problem with the media, newspaper pics and the warden involved.


    Thats my problem with Dog wardens. Its their job to know the difference. Thats like Sky sports mixing up Liverpool and Manchester Utd because they are both red.

    Whats worse is the ISPCA have only fueled this into something bigger then it is.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 223 ✭✭TehDagsBass


    Irresponsibility by the owner/parent, the warden and the media...yet it's the dog who loses his life.

    Barbaric.


  • Registered Users Posts: 78 ✭✭tahina


    God im shoocked I have a 6 year old samoyed husky myself.
    Anyone know are they on the dangerous dogs list?[/Quote]

    Yep i believe there number 5 or somthing dangerous when they have pent up energy a high energy dog is a dangerous dog no matter what the breed is they need atleast 5-10miles of running and walking a day invest in a tredmill a excercised dog is a happy dog and less likely to attack also socialisation is important they are animals at the end of the day and a child can look like small prey to their natural instinct


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 223 ✭✭TehDagsBass


    tahina wrote: »
    God im shoocked I have a 6 year old samoyed husky myself.
    Anyone know are they on the dangerous dogs list?

    Yep i believe there number 5 or somthing

    Well, you believe wrong I'm afraid. There's no such thing as the "dangerous dogs list" in Ireland, we have a pretty ignorant Restricted Breeds List which pertains to the following breeds
    • American Pit Bull Terrier
    • Bull Mastiff
    • Doberman Pinscher
    • English Bull Terrier
    • German Shepherd (Alsatian)
    • Japanese Akita
    • Japanese Tosa
    • Rhodesian Ridgeback
    • Rottweiler
    • Staffordshire Bull Terrier
    • Every other strain of cross of every breed or type of dog listed above

    I'm also fairly sure that Sammies aren't husky dogs either.


  • Registered Users Posts: 78 ✭✭tahina


    tahina wrote: »
    God im shoocked I have a 6 year old samoyed husky myself.
    Anyone know are they on the dangerous dogs list?

    Yep i believe there number 5 or somthing

    Well, you believe wrong I'm afraid. There's no such thing as the "dangerous dogs list" in Ireland, we have a pretty ignorant Restricted Breeds List which pertains to the following breeds
    • American Pit Bull Terrier
    • Bull Mastiff
    • Doberman Pinscher
    • English Bull Terrier
    • German Shepherd (Alsatian)
    • Japanese Akita
    • Japanese Tosa
    • Rhodesian Ridgeback
    • Rottweiler
    • Staffordshire Bull Terrier
    • Every other strain of cross of every breed or type of dog listed above

    I'm also fairly sure that Sammies aren't husky dogs either.

    Sorry i ment if u just google 10 most dangerous dog breeds they are roughly 5th on the list i should have been clearer =]


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,208 ✭✭✭fatmammycat


    Samoyeds are not huskies and are not on any dangerous list as far as I know.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,002 ✭✭✭SillyMangoX


    I know that Japanese Akitas are on the list so would be subject to the muzzling etc, but because the list specifies japanese specifically, does that mean American Akitas aren't subject to the list? Or just because they are Akita type would it effect them too?


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Regional North West Moderators Posts: 6,924 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cherry Blossom


    I know that Japanese Akitas are on the list so would be subject to the muzzling etc, but because the list specifies japanese specifically, does that mean American Akitas aren't subject to the list? Or just because they are Akita type would it effect them too?

    Maybe some else can clarify if this is correct or not but the RB legislation is dated 1991, I believe, it's more recent that the breed has been spilt into Akita Inu (or just 'Akita') & American Akita, the label of 'Japanese' Akita covers both as both originate in Japan. The official breed classification is here (both listed in group 5 under 'Japan'):

    http://www.fci.be/nomenclature.aspx


  • Registered Users Posts: 406 ✭✭Rommie


    While the american and inu have only been officially split for a few years now, I would debate that it doesn't cover both because while they technically came from the same ancestor, there was clearly a difference emerging between the two breeds after world war II, and now, technically, the japanese akita no longer exists in Ireland (so if you see anyone selling pups as 'japanese akitas' STAY AWAY!!)
    Its like any breed that has an rb in its ancestory somewhere, and as far as i know the american akita has never been used as a fighting dog (which is one of the main reasons most of the other breeds are on the list). The american was crossed with mastiffs and german shepherds while the inu was crossed back with the old type of 'matagi' akitas (hence why they have such a tiny gene pool).

    So as far as I can see its a hard one to call but i imagine it would be something along the same lines as the staffordshire bull terrier and the amstaff- one is restricted, the other isn't.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3 darylforsyth


    Ok... i havent logged onto the internet or come on here to have a sparring match with anyone,there are plenty other internetters out there who will behave in tit for tat comments,im not one of them.

    If i ignore your questions,thats my right,thats for me,dont bother yourselves bombarding me with the same question as i wont engage with you,thats the way i will use this forum.I will pick what suits me and ignore the rest.

    Now your question,what would i do with Huskies and similar dogs? i dont know,i seriously dont know.do i want the breed rid of?in a word no. some people on here made comments that thats what im advocating,its not.
    My main aim here was to highlight the damage this dog,the husky in clare,did to this child.
    This dog was given to the family as the original owners moved away,source: the clarefm interview.

    When the childs parents eventually got the dog off the child,the huskey lowered himself in an attack mode and kept trying to get at the child.

    How many of ye have actually listened to the interview? i challenge the posters on here to mail clarefm and ask for the podcast,unless there is some other way of listening to it,i dont know:confused:

    Plantetx...... might be best if you didnt make comments or raise suspicions about laying fault at the family at such a sensitive time.:mad:if i remember correctly it was a family gathering at the house when the unprovoked attack occurred.

    can someone put up the podcast please?or are we allowed to do that?
    this husky was given to this family as owners moved away. noone knows what went on behind closed doors with the family that moved or the family he was in when he attacked. lets just say the husky was being treated badly and being kicked would you as a human sit there and do nothing while being kicked, no you would not, dont get me wrong im not saying it was right what the dog did to that poor child no child deserves that but im just putting it in another context. i believe dogs should only come reputable breeders or from someone that knows the dog and the breeders should be by law have to interview and view the family the dog is going too. i have 2 huskies which came from reputable breeders 10 generation papers the lot but i would never leave either of them with my child who is 2 i go in the garden with him but never leave them alone i have reared pups that my bitch had and have always inspected homes and families and if didnt feel right they never went there. You cant blacken the name of a whole breed for just one attack, you wouldnt do this with humans like larry murphy. he a rapist and murderer but is his whole family?NO. so please continue to debate this but unless you know anything about dogs and what they desire to keep them happy dont bother having one. They husky is a pack living dog and will not be happy on his own if you get want one take 2 from the same litter its a lot better for them. They need 2 hrs of excersise a day they also need interaction physical aswell as mental if you cannot offer this to a husky or any dog please just jog on.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,378 ✭✭✭ISDW


    this husky was given to this family as owners moved away. noone knows what went on behind closed doors with the family that moved or the family he was in when he attacked. lets just say the husky was being treated badly and being kicked would you as a human sit there and do nothing while being kicked, no you would not, dont get me wrong im not saying it was right what the dog did to that poor child no child deserves that but im just putting it in another context. i believe dogs should only come reputable breeders or from someone that knows the dog and the breeders should be by law have to interview and view the family the dog is going too. i have 2 huskies which came from reputable breeders 10 generation papers the lot but i would never leave either of them with my child who is 2 i go in the garden with him but never leave them alone i have reared pups that my bitch had and have always inspected homes and families and if didnt feel right they never went there. You cant blacken the name of a whole breed for just one attack, you wouldnt do this with humans like larry murphy. he a rapist and murderer but is his whole family?NO. so please continue to debate this but unless you know anything about dogs and what they desire to keep them happy dont bother having one. They husky is a pack living dog and will not be happy on his own if you get want one take 2 from the same litter its a lot better for them. They need 2 hrs of excersise a day they also need interaction physical aswell as mental if you cannot offer this to a husky or any dog please just jog on.

    It wasn't a husky. I know its a long, long thread, but its pointed out quite a few times :)

    Really wouldn't recommend taking two dogs from the same litter. Great that you got good homes for your dogs, did you get the parents health tested before breeding?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3 darylforsyth


    ISDW wrote: »
    It wasn't a husky. I know its a long, long thread, but its pointed out quite a few times :)

    Really wouldn't recommend taking two dogs from the same litter. Great that you got good homes for your dogs, did you get the parents health tested before breeding?


    I didnt read that but i only scanned thru a few posts so why discriminate huskys people should get facts right before making assumtions. I understand some people cant take two but i would highly recomend it to them as it makes your dog alot happier and less destructive. they are always health checked get the hips and elbows, Eye test, Heart test and brucelosis test( however you spell it lol). everything else from allergies to deafness is done once a year to both.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,458 ✭✭✭ppink


    I didnt read that but i only scanned thru a few posts so why discriminate huskys people should get facts right before making assumtions. .

    People probably do exactly as you did with your first post......scan through get the jist and start typing/talking:)


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,409 ✭✭✭jamesd


    Maybe some else can clarify if this is correct or not but the RB legislation is dated 1991, I believe, it's more recent that the breed has been spilt into Akita Inu (or just 'Akita') & American Akita, the label of 'Japanese' Akita covers both as both originate in Japan. The official breed classification is here (both listed in group 5 under 'Japan'):

    http://www.fci.be/nomenclature.aspx

    Would love to know if this was ever answered with a definate answer.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,378 ✭✭✭ISDW


    I didnt read that but i only scanned thru a few posts so why discriminate huskys people should get facts right before making assumtions. I understand some people cant take two but i would highly recomend it to them as it makes your dog alot happier and less destructive. they are always health checked get the hips and elbows, Eye test, Heart test and brucelosis test( however you spell it lol). everything else from allergies to deafness is done once a year to both.

    There was a lot of anger about it, with the warden getting the breed wrong, and a national newspaper as well, they have since printed a few scare stories about huskies, with photos of other breeds!

    Great that the dogs are health tested, but I am a wee bit confused - easily done at my age:D you say they are always health checked, once a year, what do you mean? You get the hips and elbows scored every year? What heart test do you get done, never heard of huskies needing a heart test. And again, please pardon my ignorance, what is a brucelosis test?

    Thanks.:)


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Regional North West Moderators Posts: 6,924 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cherry Blossom


    ISDW wrote: »
    And again, please pardon my ignorance, what is a brucelosis test?

    Cattle are tested for brucellosis, it has been scaled down significantly in recent years as Ireland was declared brucellosis free in 2009. Dogs can get it, but I've never heard of it happening or of dogs being tested for it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3 darylforsyth


    ISDW wrote: »
    There was a lot of anger about it, with the warden getting the breed wrong, and a national newspaper as well, they have since printed a few scare stories about huskies, with photos of other breeds!

    Great that the dogs are health tested, but I am a wee bit confused - easily done at my age:D you say they are always health checked, once a year, what do you mean? You get the hips and elbows scored every year? What heart test do you get done, never heard of huskies needing a heart test. And again, please pardon my ignorance, what is a brucelosis test?

    Thanks.:)

    I can understand the anger because its not fair that people who have these dogs get looked at weird and people telling kids to stay away from them because not all are the same.

    I get there hips and and elbows scored once a year mainly before the first heat of the year. the heart test is just to check of any abnormality with it the vets either use a stethoscope or give them a elctrocardigram (excuse the spelling) ans a brucelosis test is for a bacteria often found in cattle as a fellow poster pointed out ireland is free of this but as my dog was bought abroad and brought back to ireland and my male studs abroad its a neccesity as there are not many signs of this bacteria as it is contracted through mating sniffing the urinal tract of another dog or eating fetal membranes of pups. better to be safe than sorry.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,000 ✭✭✭andreac


    I can understand the anger because its not fair that people who have these dogs get looked at weird and people telling kids to stay away from them because not all are the same.

    I get there hips and and elbows scored once a year mainly before the first heat of the year. the heart test is just to check of any abnormality with it the vets either use a stethoscope or give them a elctrocardigram (excuse the spelling) ans a brucelosis test is for a bacteria often found in cattle as a fellow poster pointed out ireland is free of this but as my dog was bought abroad and brought back to ireland and my male studs abroad its a neccesity as there are not many signs of this bacteria as it is contracted through mating sniffing the urinal tract of another dog or eating fetal membranes of pups. better to be safe than sorry.

    Sorry, but if you are saying you get their hips and elbows done once a year you are not telling the truth.

    The Hips and Elbows can only ever be scored ONCE in their whole life. The x-rays are submitted to the BVA in the UK and they can only ever be done one in their whole life, so why would you say you do them every year??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,378 ✭✭✭ISDW


    I can understand the anger because its not fair that people who have these dogs get looked at weird and people telling kids to stay away from them because not all are the same.

    I get there hips and and elbows scored once a year mainly before the first heat of the year. the heart test is just to check of any abnormality with it the vets either use a stethoscope or give them a elctrocardigram (excuse the spelling) ans a brucelosis test is for a bacteria often found in cattle as a fellow poster pointed out ireland is free of this but as my dog was bought abroad and brought back to ireland and my male studs abroad its a neccesity as there are not many signs of this bacteria as it is contracted through mating sniffing the urinal tract of another dog or eating fetal membranes of pups. better to be safe than sorry.

    Sorry, as andreac says, you can't get your dogs hips and elbows scored every year, and if you could, why would you want to put any dog through a GA every year? Why are you getting elbows done in sibes? There is no issue with elbows in sibes, malamutes maybe, but not sibes. You take your dog abroad to use as a stud dog? Wow, he must be some dog, what countries does he go to? Is he an outstanding show dog, or a working champion?


    Edited as I see darylforsyth's account is now closed. I guess the trolling attempt wasn't too successful?


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