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EU & Germany to Legalise Paedophilia?

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  • 13-12-2008 12:06am
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    metrovelvet
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    Please someone tell me this is a crock?

    http://www.tpuc.org/node/151

    BERLIN, July 30, 2007(LifeSiteNews.com) - Booklets from a subsidiary of the German government's Ministry for Family Affairs encourage parents to sexually massage their children as young as 1 to 3 years of age. Two 40-page booklets entitled "Love, Body and Playing Doctor" by the German Federal Health Education Center (Bundeszentrale für gesundheitliche Aufklärung - BZgA) are aimed at parents - the first addressing children from 1-3 and the other children from 4-6 years of age.

    "Fathers do not devote enough attention to the clitoris and vagina of their daughters. Their caresses too seldom pertain to these regions, while this is the only way the girls can develop a sense of pride in their sex," reads the booklet regarding 1-3 year olds. The authors rationalize, "The child touches all parts of their father's body, sometimes arousing him. The father should do the same."

    ..and it continues to explain more


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    mike65
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    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=opera&rls=en&hs=1gw&q=German+Government+Publication+Promotes+Incestuous+Pedophilia&start=0&sa=N

    every nutjob blog/message board in the world has this! And now so do we!


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    Thomas_S_Hunterson
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    It may be something amiss with a translation or else a very elaborate prank.

    You may want to brush up on the definition of paedophilia however.


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    johnnyskeleton
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    metrovelvet wrote: »
    Please someone tell me this is a crock?

    http://www.tpuc.org/node/151

    BERLIN, July 30, 2007(LifeSiteNews.com) - Booklets from a subsidiary of the German government's Ministry for Family Affairs encourage parents to sexually massage their children as young as 1 to 3 years of age. Two 40-page booklets entitled "Love, Body and Playing Doctor" by the German Federal Health Education Center (Bundeszentrale für gesundheitliche Aufklärung - BZgA) are aimed at parents - the first addressing children from 1-3 and the other children from 4-6 years of age.

    "Fathers do not devote enough attention to the clitoris and vagina of their daughters. Their caresses too seldom pertain to these regions, while this is the only way the girls can develop a sense of pride in their sex," reads the booklet regarding 1-3 year olds. The authors rationalize, "The child touches all parts of their father's body, sometimes arousing him. The father should do the same."

    ..and it continues to explain more

    That article sounds like a crazy far-right Catholic organisation making a straw man argument, but it deserves further investigation. Have you found anything from a more reputable source?


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    metrovelvet
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,376 ✭✭✭metrovelvet


    No. I looked and couldnt find one. And I dont know german to check a primary source.

    Mike - I never came across this before. I got it in an email and found it hard to believe.


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    johnnyskeleton
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    metrovelvet wrote: »
    No. I looked and couldnt find one. And I dont know german to check a primary source.

    Mike - I never came across this before. I got it in an email and found it hard to believe.

    My best guess is that it is a mistranslation or a misunderstanding of a sex ed guide that tells parents not to punish kids for masturbating. If it was genuinely encouraging parents to take sexual pleasure from fondling their children it would cause outcry at a level higher than some website.


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    mike65
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    Quite, its 18 months old and the world and he wife would have been gabbing about this at the time. Nothing like this can fly under the mainstream radar in the 21st century.


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    metrovelvet
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,376 ✭✭✭metrovelvet


    Sean_K wrote: »
    It may be something amiss with a translation or else a very elaborate prank.

    You may want to brush up on the definition of paedophilia however.

    I was re-iterating the title of the article. But go ahead .. give me the updated definition.


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    Thomas_S_Hunterson
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,151 ✭✭✭Thomas_S_Hunterson


    metrovelvet wrote: »
    I was re-iterating the title of the article. But go ahead .. give me the updated definition.

    Well if you were re-iterating a title then you can disregard my post.

    Peadophilia is a mental condition, not the actual sexual abuse of children.

    And it's definition certainly hasn't been updated.


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    peasant
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    First I've ever heard of this. Just did a quick search on some German sites.

    The brochures were available from 2001 - 2007 when the current health minister stopped their further publication due to one person taking legal action.

    The brochures are no longer availble so I can't read the original text but from quotes it seems that johnnyskeleton was right in his assumption.

    Definetly nothing about parents touching children from what I can see. But this is of course a highly sensitive topic and someone fianlly took umbrage about some text passages after six years. That and the fact that the current health minister is from a different party than the one under whose watch the brochures were first published is probably enough explanation for them being no longer available.

    The fact however that they were in circulation for six years without any fuss and that the Swiss society for the protection of children asked for permission to copy these brochures would suggest that there was nothing sinister in them.

    for anyone able to read German, here are two links to the issue:
    http://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/0,1518,498393,00.html
    http://www.spiegel.de/media/0,4906,15962,00.pdf


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    johnnyskeleton
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    peasant wrote: »
    First I've ever heard of this. Just did a quick search on some German sites.

    The brochures were available from 2001 - 2007 when the current health minister stopped their further publication due to one person taking legal action.

    The brochures are no longer availble so I can't read the original text but from quotes it seems that johnnyskeleton was right in his assumption.

    Definetly nothing about parents touching children from what I can see. But this is of course a highly sensitive topic and someone fianlly took umbrage about some text passages after six years. That and the fact that the current health minister is from a different party than the one under whose watch the brochures were first published is probably enough explanation for them being no longer available.

    The fact however that they were in circulation for six years without any fuss and that the Swiss society for the protection of children asked for permission to copy these brochures would suggest that there was nothing sinister in them.

    for anyone able to read German, here are two links to the issue:
    http://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/0,1518,498393,00.html
    http://www.spiegel.de/media/0,4906,15962,00.pdf

    Danke Schon.


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    ChocolateSauce
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    For me to have any opinion on this matter I'll need a link to a site that isn't run by religious nuts.


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