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31-10-2019, 19:33   #91
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I initially though it was very harsh on him when the others got away less harshly.
However- the other 2 will be available to fulfil the terms of their contracts (Ie play football) while Keogh I’m assuming is unavailable to play for the remainder of his contract for reasons other than an injury through football therefore he is unable to fulfill his obligations under his contract. It seems that the club made an offer to him to keep him for the remainder of his contract at reduced wages but he refused. If he was sacked because of inability to fulfill the terms of his contract then I could understand but if they sacked him because of gross misconduct then I’d say they are on shaky ground- unless there is more to the story that we don’t know about

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People comparing it to an every day office job saying that 'he's unavailable to work for 15 months, they're not' are ignoring the fact in any normal office job, the two who are available for work would be immediately sacked as they both broke the law. Richard Keogh didn't
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Sure he's a multi millionaire he can afford to retire at that age.

The man has been on thousands a week for over a decade
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People comparing it to an every day office job saying that 'he's unavailable to work for 15 months, they're not' are ignoring the fact in any normal office job, the two who are available for work would be immediately sacked as they both broke the law. Richard Keogh didn't
People in "normal office jobs" don't get sacked for breaking the law on their own time.
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People in "normal office jobs" don't get sacked for breaking the law on their own time.
They do but it depends on the offence and the company. It would be unlikely in this instance.
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People in "normal office jobs" don't get sacked for breaking the law on their own time.
True, not unless a subsequent certain criminal conviction might preclude you from doing a part of your job. There are some jobs say in the airport where you’d need a background criminal check to obtain an airside pass... if you were convicted of certain crimes it would compromise your ability to be security cleared, hold a pass and therefore do your job.
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True, not unless a subsequent certain criminal conviction might preclude you from doing a part of your job. There are some jobs say in the airport where you’d need a background criminal check to obtain an airside pass... if you were convicted of certain crimes it would compromise your ability to be security cleared, hold a pass and therefore do your job.
Which wouldn’t be a “normal office job”.
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Which wouldn’t be a “normal office job”.
Loads of pretty regular office jobs need that clearance, people who work in.......
HR, accounting, purchasing all office based management positions, to name only a few
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Looking back over the past few pages one thing has struck me.

I think pretty much all points have been made fairly civilly and respectfully. People have disagreed, but without the usual drama and trolling that contaminates so much discussion around here. I wonder is it because it's a debate about someone who is not with one of 2 certain clubs where everything descends into nonsense.
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Looking back over the past few pages one thing has struck me.

I think pretty much all points have been made fairly civilly and respectfully. People have disagreed, but without the usual drama and trolling that contaminates so much discussion around here. I wonder is it because it's a debate about someone who is not with one of 2 certain clubs where everything descends into nonsense.
You're right. It's been very civil and sensible. Nice to see.

I think everyone agrees that no one outside the meetings knows what happened, what was discussed etc.

I'd be very very surprised if a 'company' the size of Derby didn't follow procedure perfectly, as would be advised by presumably a top 3/4/5 law firm.

The media grab a few bits, offered lower wages, sacked, yet no substance or facts.

I'd be confident Derby are covered. But who knows. Time will tell better than the rag papers.
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