Originally Posted by El Tarangu
This statement demonstrates your particular lack of understanding in discussing the relative legacies of either Roche or Kelly; no-one with even a cursory interest in cycling would claim Armstrong was the greatest - he never won a Monument.
The Tour de France is greatly overrated too And way too much focus on it by the casuals
I accept that even in one days, you need a team to do all the heavy work for the first 160km etc , but the Tour can be very boring in stages. Even the bunch sprints can be boring (Last two editions were fun)
. You can win a tour without winning a stage eg LeMond and Froome ( or even a TT) So kudos to guys like Segan who compete for the sprints and the win and come back and try again after a few bad days in the mountains . It he’d come no where in the GC . In Kelly’s time, he was top 10 in several TDF GC while winning The Green jersey .
The GC lads take it handy in the first week bar the team TT . (Though the last two editions, the organisers changed things up )
Anyway, the Giro has been fantastic in the last few years , always something crazy going on, even when Roche won his. there was loads of drama . Very unpredictable Race , like the Italians themselves .
Tom Doumlon (excuse the spelling ) win /Quintaina choking was a special one in 2017, even Froomes win in 2018 . The 2014 tour which came to Ireland was a good edition too
The Vuelta is often overlooked but since they shortened the race length it’s very explosive , you got lads who are coming off a disappointing or a decent TDF going all out to win races
With one day events, MONUMENTS matter ! **** the lottery that is the world championship. Bar Amstel Gold , sod the semi classics and mid mid week races (looking at you Mr Sagan )
St Patrick’s week (Milan San Remro) to last week end of April, each weekend a major race with Paris Roubaix , Flanders, (then Amstel) liege Baston Liege ... hard riding , not a day for taking it handy . Very few riders compete in all 4 monuments and the semi classics like Amstel (other monument in October )
Monuments matter. Most of the great Tour de France winners and contenders have won at least one monument (or least placed ,Contador )
Armstrong , who was down as a future one day star didn’t win a lot when he raced before cancer. A world championship (meh, end of season ,it’s a lottery) and a semi classic. Poor record in monuments , (the few he rode in) post cancer he rode very little , just the Criterium and TDF and then stop for the season . Least Contador took part in early season stage races like Paris Nice . Valverde,lol, didn’t matter what is was he just rode and has his fair share of wins (won Vuelta )