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22-07-2020, 23:26   #181
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I'm a massive craft beer fan as are many of my friends but none of us are beer snobs. We'd all like various craft beers of all sorts, as well as pints of Guinness. I love a craft beer particularly at home. I'd much rather sip on 3 or 4 6% DIPAs or Belgian ales than lash in 8 pints of Heineken but I'd also happily drink the Heineken if nothing else was available.

I also love a pint of Guinness. My local pub does a smashing pint of it and the day they reopen I'll be down there at opening time!
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Well to be fair, we have beer tossers to thank for the increased variety available these days, so lets not write them off altogether.

It's thanks to eejits in startupps making manky pale ale in their bathtubs that people started drinking the stuff.

Now proper brewers like Diageo who can actually control their brewing process have taken over with the like of Smithwicks Pale Ale - it's my pale ale of choice these days - far superior to almost everything else on offer, with the exception of McGargles which have a few decent ones. Excellent, balanced taste and total consistency.

The 'local stuff' is usually made on a shoestring by unqualified morons on 10th-hand equipment and tastes like detergent. There are a few exceptions to this, but not many.
Where to start with this? You're saying the likes of Kinnegar, Ballykilcavan, Trouble Brewing, Dot Brewing, Blacks of Kinsale etc are unqualified morons using 10th hand equipment?

You do know Diageo will make the blandest beers that appeal to the mass populace and market them as "craft"?
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Guinness is also brewed locally in Nigeria and Australia
Yes but they actually use a dehydrated hopped wort that is shipped from Dublin to brew the beer.

Either way, if it's brewed abroad how does that still not make it an Irish product and brand?

The labels will all have "St James's Gate, Dublin" on them.
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Is there any truth in the rumour you don’t get a hangover from craft beer as there is a lot less crap put into them?
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I've been avoiding going to any pub with my brother for the last couple of years - he is the most stereotypical craft beer c..t on the plant.

he brews his own muck which 90% of the time is undrinkable ... yet apparently my palate is just underdeveloped.

No matter what pub he ever goes in to the process is the same -- a quick glance at the taps followed by a subtle shake of the head; then he leans in over the bar -- scans the fridges - sharp intake of breath followed by - 'Is this all that you have?' .. when it is pointed out that pubs generally don't have hidden stuff they only sell when a ginger beard requests it with a secret password - he goes on a rant about how I shouldn't have to put up with drinking bland beer.

My local is a small rural pub - might only have 10 people in it on a busy night - Guinness, Smithwicks, Heineken and Bulmers on tap - small selection of bottles and a couple of lagers from the local craft brewery.

Eventually he will settle on what the local craft one is - and despite the fact that he has been in this pub numerous times and drank this beer before - he will critique it and explain in detail to anyone who will listen what is wrong with the beer including what they have done wrong in the process.

I even had to listen to him in PMacs one night telling me that their selection was limited and generic ......

I just don't go to pubs with him anymore
I like my craft beer but jesus that's extreme.
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Is there any truth in the rumour you don’t get a hangover from craft beer as there is a lot less crap put into them?
False.
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Is there any truth in the rumour you don’t get a hangover from craft beer as there is a lot less crap put into them?
Some of them are probably easier on the stomach than some of the big, mass-market concoctions, but given that a hangover is basically dehydration I wouldn't think so. Some of the oul' fellas down here say similar about Beamish stout.
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Is there any truth in the rumour you don’t get a hangover from craft beer as there is a lot less crap put into them?
Most definatley not.
I had a week long headache after drinking one craft red ale.
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This reminds me of a time about 10 years ago in a restaurant in West Cork, a well known place in a village near Clon, long before the craft beer thing was happening.

The woman seated opposite me was on the vino, I asked the waiter, who was also the owner what beer he had and got the reply word for word that i will never forget - "we have a eclectic mix of bottled beer".



So what are they? I had to ask.





Budweiser, Carlsberg and Erdinger.
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Most definatley not.
I had a week long headache after drinking one craft red ale.
Crikey, name and shame it? Reason for asking was my friend frank craft beer in Prague and he said not a hangover no matter how much they drank so just a gentle wonderment.
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I've been avoiding going to any pub with my brother for the last couple of years - he is the most stereotypical craft beer c..t on the plant.

he brews his own muck which 90% of the time is undrinkable ... yet apparently my palate is just underdeveloped.

No matter what pub he ever goes in to the process is the same -- a quick glance at the taps followed by a subtle shake of the head; then he leans in over the bar -- scans the fridges - sharp intake of breath followed by - 'Is this all that you have?' .. when it is pointed out that pubs generally don't have hidden stuff they only sell when a ginger beard requests it with a secret password - he goes on a rant about how I shouldn't have to put up with drinking bland beer.

My local is a small rural pub - might only have 10 people in it on a busy night - Guinness, Smithwicks, Heineken and Bulmers on tap - small selection of bottles and a couple of lagers from the local craft brewery.

Eventually he will settle on what the local craft one is - and despite the fact that he has been in this pub numerous times and drank this beer before - he will critique it and explain in detail to anyone who will listen what is wrong with the beer including what they have done wrong in the process.

I even had to listen to him in PMacs one night telling me that their selection was limited and generic ......

I just don't go to pubs with him anymore
that's gas but i totally get you, when i'm sitting at the bar and some bearded hipster comes in asking for a stupidly named pint of crap for extra money,
i along with any other normal person at the bar sniggers.
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This reminds me of a time about 10 years ago in a restaurant in West Cork, a well known place in a village near Clon, long before the craft beer thing was happening.

The woman seated opposite me was on the vino, I asked the waiter, who was also the owner what beer he had and got the reply word for word that i will never forget - "we have a eclectic mix of bottled beer".



So what are they? I had to ask.





Budweiser, Carlsberg and Erdinger.
Erdinger made Bud n Carl eclectic
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Is there any truth in the rumour you don’t get a hangover from craft beer as there is a lot less crap put into them?
As a person who drinks a fair bit of craft beer I can assure you, the hangovers exist.
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he brews his own muck which 90% of the time is undrinkable ... yet apparently my palate is just underdeveloped.
Your palate probably is unrefined. He shouldn't make you feel bad about it though.
You won't get any better if you have no interest in improving though.
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...You won't get any better if you have no interest in improving though.
Y'see, it's statements like that that make me want to take a 330cl bottle of sophisticated, hoppy craft ale with it's vanilla undertones and nuances of snake-droppings and insert it in the brewer.
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