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Nvidia RTX Discussion

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  • #2522
    AlmightyCushion
    Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,041 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    dreamers75 wrote: »
    So yeah big navi......tried to pick up a 3090 but failed miserably same with 3080

    Ordered a duel fuel range cooker instead, reckon they all hit the same temsp eventually :D

    Probably the same size as well.


  • #2523
    EoinHef
    Registered Users Posts: 5,569 ✭✭✭EoinHef


    Not prepared to get on the press F5 bandwagon either,was always the sensible idea to wait and after 3080 launch day I decided best just to wait till more than 1 or 2 gpus have launched. In 6 months time there could be 5 or 6 times as many cards to pick from that will be a really nice upgrade fro where I am.


    I feel a lot of people skiped the 20 series for the same reason I did and I can understand the eagerness but at the same time i just couldn't be arsed dedicating so much time to just getting a new card.


  • #2524
    errlloyd
    Registered Users Posts: 12,598 ✭✭✭✭errlloyd


    Wish I had the patience of you all. My problem is I'm on a 1060. So I am well overdue an upgrade. But the downward pressure on the market is also waiting for the 3080 stock!


  • #2525
    Star Lord
    Registered Users Posts: 30,123 ✭✭✭✭Star Lord


    Jay put it best I feel, the 3090 is the card that's aimed at the professional/semi professional/amateur 3D renderer who also wants to be able to play games.
    The 3080 (as it currently stands) doesn't have enough VRAM to handle complicated scenes:

    527378.png

    Currently planning to see what they're charging for the 3080 20GB, when it launches, as it's not too far behind the 3090, and will have that extra VRAM headroom.
    errlloyd wrote: »
    Wish I had the patience of you all. My problem is I'm on a 1060. So I am well overdue an upgrade. But the downward pressure on the market is also waiting for the 3080 stock!

    I'm still on a 970, with it's 3.5 GB VRAM, and saying I think I'm better off not getting the new card with 10GB VRAM and holding off for one with 20GB feels kinda crazy... :D


  • #2526
    JoyPad
    Registered Users Posts: 1,701 ✭✭✭JoyPad


    Star Lord wrote: »
    Jay put it best

    He also said there's a second category this card is aimed at, namely people who can afford the best card the money can buy.

    I ordered an MSI 3090 Gaming X Trio, and an RM850X to provide the juice. Because YOLO!


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  • #2527
    Wonda-Boy
    Registered Users Posts: 10,013 ✭✭✭✭Wonda-Boy


    Yeah im on the 1060 (6GB Version) but my new monitor is on the way so my 1060 is goosed!

    Realistically, its gonna be close to the end of the year if not early next year I get a 3080ti or 3080 super at this rate.

    Might aswell leave the monitor in the box :rolleyes:


  • #2528
    TitianGerm
    Registered Users Posts: 27,774 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    JoyPad wrote: »
    He also said there's a second category this card is aimed at, namely people who can afford the best card the money can buy.

    I ordered an MSI 3090 Gaming X Trio, and an RM850X to provide the juice. Because YOLO!

    Linus was saying the 3090 was spiking to 450w and they needed to replace thier PSU to a larger one.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjcxrfEVhc8


  • #2529
    weisses
    Registered Users Posts: 9,430 ✭✭✭weisses


    JoyPad wrote: »
    He also said there's a second category this card is aimed at, namely people who can afford the best card the money can buy.

    I ordered an MSI 3090 Gaming X Trio, and an RM850X to provide the juice. Because YOLO!

    What cpu are you rockin ?


  • #2530
    Cuddlesworth
    Registered Users Posts: 13,980 ✭✭✭✭Cuddlesworth


    TitianGerm wrote: »
    Linus was saying the 3090 was spiking to 450w and they needed to replace thier PSU to a larger one.

    Hard to find info, but the RMX850x is single rail 12v, so roughly 70amps of power delivery combined. It should be fine but you would usually aim for not being so close to the rated power.


  • #2531
    JoyPad
    Registered Users Posts: 1,701 ✭✭✭JoyPad


    weisses wrote: »
    What cpu are you rockin ?

    The Trio is for my son, who has an i7-6700k (overclocked by PCSpecialist to 4.4GHz), and a 1440p 144Hz monitor.

    I will wait for Intel to finally crack the PCI gen 4 then upgrade his system.


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  • #2532
    seraphimvc
    Registered Users Posts: 3,356 ✭✭✭seraphimvc


    the teardown is out, and jesus this is so funny to look at when comparing to 3080 ahaha

    bottom is the 2kg brick 3090

    AdMl4Snl.png


  • #2533
    Cuddlesworth
    Registered Users Posts: 13,980 ✭✭✭✭Cuddlesworth


    JoyPad wrote: »
    The Trio is for my son, who has an i7-6700k (overclocked by PCSpecialist to 4.4GHz), and a 1440p 144Hz monitor.

    I will wait for Intel to finally crack the PCI gen 4 then upgrade his system.

    If your son disappoints you, I'm open to interviewing for the position.


  • #2534
    Homelander
    Registered Users Posts: 4,339 ✭✭✭Homelander


    A RTX3090 with a 6700k?

    Surely a 4th gen Ryzen (even a 3rd gen 3700X) + RTX3080 makes about 100% more sense.


  • #2535
    JoyPad
    Registered Users Posts: 1,701 ✭✭✭JoyPad


    Homelander wrote: »
    A RTX3090 with a 6700k?

    Surely a 4th gen Ryzen (even a 3rd gen 3700X) + RTX3080 makes about 100% more sense.

    I missed the boat with the 3080s, and buying a 3090 now makes me Super-Dad, (as opposed to a 3080 when it will be available).

    As for Ryzen, no thanks. I'm more of a Blue Team kind of guy.


  • #2536
    Homelander
    Registered Users Posts: 4,339 ✭✭✭Homelander


    Putting aside that Intel v AMD thing, the 6700K is really dated and will bottleneck the crap out of a 3090 generally speaking.

    Obviously at 1440p 144hz, the objective is 1440p, ultra quality, close to 144hz as possible.

    Nothing wrong with the 6700K, still fairly OK even today, but definitely not for a 3090 build IMO.

    The fact that the 3090 is barely faster than a 3080, and a 6700K would still bottleneck a 3080, means you're paying 3090 prices and getting probably 3070 levels of performance.

    The only scenario where the 6700K would be viable with a 3090 would be 4K ultra 60hz.


  • #2537
    K.O.Kiki
    Registered Users Posts: 18,694 ✭✭✭✭K.O.Kiki


    https://twitter.com/scancomputers/status/1309416041806733312

    https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/izgymk/scan_uk_on_3080_preorders_half_of_models_are_now/

    Looks like Scan actually have a decent system in place.


  • #2538
    JoyPad
    Registered Users Posts: 1,701 ✭✭✭JoyPad


    Homelander wrote: »
    Putting aside that Intel v AMD thing, the 6700K is really dated and will bottleneck the crap out of a 3090 generally speaking.

    Obviously at 1440p 144hz, the objective is 1440p, ultra quality, close to 144hz as possible.

    Nothing wrong with the 6700K, still fairly OK even today, but definitely not for a 3090 build IMO.

    The fact that the 3090 is barely faster than a 3080, and a 6700K would still bottleneck a 3080, means you're paying 3090 prices and getting probably 3070 levels of performance.

    The only scenario where the 6700K would be viable with a 3090 would be 4K ultra 60hz.

    You're missing the point.
    He is currently gaming on his 3 year old rig: 6700K, 1080Ti, 1440p GSync monitor. That's where we are.
    Then he says "I want to try Ray Tracing". So I try to get a 30-series card. I failed to get a 3080, but managed to pre-order a 3090. Forget the bottleneck, the cost per frame, the efficiency, the other cards. The whole point is to get a 30-series card as soon as possible, and be "Super Dad".

    There's Christmas coming, and then his birthday in February. Maybe a 4k monitor should be next, and then Intel's next gen is out and PCIe 4.0 SSDs from Samsung, and other goodies.

    Eventually, it will all make sense.


  • #2539
    Aodhan5000
    Registered Users Posts: 596 ✭✭✭Aodhan5000


    Just make sure super dad doesn't end up with super spoiled bratty son :D


  • #2540
    K.O.Kiki
    Registered Users Posts: 18,694 ✭✭✭✭K.O.Kiki


    Why didn't you just get a cheap 2080 Ti lol


  • #2541
    Wonda-Boy
    Registered Users Posts: 10,013 ✭✭✭✭Wonda-Boy


    K.O.Kiki wrote: »
    Why didn't you just get a cheap 2080 Ti lol

    Coz then he would be "DEAD BEAT DAD".....:p


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  • #2542
    Metric Tensor
    Registered Users Posts: 3,724 ✭✭✭Metric Tensor


    I have almost the same spec.

    An overclocked 6700k, a 1440p 144Hz screen and a GTX 1070.

    1. At the moment the 1070 is my bottleneck in getting to 144Hz on the games I play so I'm planning/hoping to buy a 3080.

    2. Once I get the 3080 then the 6700k will become the rate limiting component in my system and I will update that in due course

    3. Then some other component will be rate limiting ... the 1440p for example.

    The whole thing is circular and every system will always have a "weakest" or rate limiting component.


  • #2543
    JoyPad
    Registered Users Posts: 1,701 ✭✭✭JoyPad


    K.O.Kiki wrote: »
    Why didn't you just get a cheap 2080 Ti lol

    That thing in Switzerland will require paying VAT, even if they did ship it here.


  • #2544
    AlmightyCushion
    Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,041 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    JoyPad wrote: »
    You're missing the point.
    He is currently gaming on his 3 year old rig: 6700K, 1080Ti, 1440p GSync monitor. That's where we are.
    Then he says "I want to try Ray Tracing". So I try to get a 30-series card. I failed to get a 3080, but managed to pre-order a 3090. Forget the bottleneck, the cost per frame, the efficiency, the other cards. The whole point is to get a 30-series card as soon as possible, and be "Super Dad".

    There's Christmas coming, and then his birthday in February. Maybe a 4k monitor should be next, and then Intel's next gen is out and PCIe 4.0 SSDs from Samsung, and other goodies.

    Eventually, it will all make sense.

    Are you looking to adopt another son by any chance?


  • #2545
    Samuel T. Cogley
    Registered Users Posts: 10,684 ✭✭✭✭Samuel T. Cogley


    Looks like all is not well in paradise!

    https://youtu.be/x6bUUEEe-X8


  • #2546
    kingtiger
    Registered Users Posts: 1,740 ✭✭✭kingtiger


    JoyPad wrote: »
    As for Ryzen, no thanks. I'm more of a Blue Team kind of guy.

    I just don't get that train of thought, sticking to a brand name :confused:

    bang for buck is where its at.

    I for one will change brands at the drop of a hat with performance based on the best architecture, and to be fair AMD are way ahead of Intel at the moment


  • #2547
    Samuel T. Cogley
    Registered Users Posts: 10,684 ✭✭✭✭Samuel T. Cogley


    kingtiger wrote: »
    I just don't get that train of thought, sticking to a brand name :confused:

    bang for buck is where its at.

    I for one will change brands at the drop of a hat with performance based on the best architecture, and to be fair AMD are way ahead of Intel at the moment

    In fairness Intel is still king in high refresh gaming.


  • #2548
    kingtiger
    Registered Users Posts: 1,740 ✭✭✭kingtiger


    Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »
    In fairness Intel is still king in high refresh gaming.

    by what 5-10 fps? on their 14+++++++++ refresh on their beaten horse of a overpriced sku that runs over a bazillion watts nearing the temperature of the sun

    we will see what happens with the Zen 3 launch


  • #2549
    Aodhan5000
    Registered Users Posts: 596 ✭✭✭Aodhan5000


    kingtiger wrote: »
    I just don't get that train of thought, sticking to a brand name :confused:

    bang for buck is where its at.

    I for one will change brands at the drop of a hat with performance based on the best architecture, and to be fair AMD are way ahead of Intel at the moment

    They are best for gaming still, just not for value/cores. You can't really justify saying AMD are way ahead. It's not like when AMD were on fx


  • #2550
    kingtiger
    Registered Users Posts: 1,740 ✭✭✭kingtiger


    Aodhan5000 wrote: »
    You can't really justify saying AMD are way ahead. It's not like when AMD were on fx

    We will see next month with Zen 3, I am no fanboy of either company but Intel have been flogging their 14nm for the last 10ish years

    ryzen is on their 3rd gen and I firmly believe that they will take the gaming crown next month


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  • #2551
    Aodhan5000
    Registered Users Posts: 596 ✭✭✭Aodhan5000


    kingtiger wrote: »
    We will see next month with Zen 3, I am no fanboy of either company but Intel have been flogging their 14nm for the last 10ish years

    ryzen is on their 3rd gen and I firmly believe that they will take the gaming crown next month

    I'd tend to agree they probably will take the gaming crown/trade blows with Intel but that doesn't make them miles ahead either


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