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Right Wing Grifters

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    #62
    Lefty Bicek
    Registered Users Posts: 1,625 ✭✭✭Lefty Bicek


    20Cent wrote: »
    Not really.
    Has she claimed anything remotely close to his conspiracy theories or even much to do with politics at all?



    Your thread, your title, and you don't even know what he word 'grifter' means.

    :o


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    #63
    20Cent
    Registered Users Posts: 8,934 ✭✭✭20Cent


    Tommy Robinson making a lot of money peddling hatred.
    He's convicted conman yet still gets a lot of support.

    Paul Joseph Watson similar.


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    #64
    Lefty Bicek
    Registered Users Posts: 1,625 ✭✭✭Lefty Bicek


    20Cent wrote: »
    Tommy Robinson making a lot of money peddling hatred.
    He's convicted conman yet still gets a lot of support.

    Paul Joseph Watson similar.

    Nobody's perfect.

    Tommy Robinson said a lot of things about Muslim Grooming Gangs that the tiresome leftie commentariat instinctively freaked out about.

    Turns out he was right, though. As some high-profile left politicians indirectly confirmed, being no longer able to deny.


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    #65
    sabat
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,896 ✭✭✭sabat


    20Cent wrote: »
    Really trying to sell this Gweneth Paltrow is the left wing equivalent of Alex Jones thing. Admire the persistence but not really working out.

    http://www.infowarsshop.com/-Health-Wellness_c_63.html

    https://shop.goop.com/shop/collection/wellness?country=USA

    The prosecution rests your honor...


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    #66
    20Cent
    Registered Users Posts: 8,934 ✭✭✭20Cent


    sabat wrote: »
    http://www.infowarsshop.com/-Health-Wellness_c_63.html

    https://shop.goop.com/shop/collection/wellness?country=USA

    The prosecution rests your honor...

    They both sell stuff.
    Amazon and Alex Jones are the exact same as well then.


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    #67
    Gynoid
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,524 ✭✭✭Gynoid


    20Cent wrote: »
    I asked who the left wing Alex Jones is.

    The rubber bandits and some actor/poet???


    I cant bear people like PJW or Gemma or such - they have a mean, cold weirdness and paranoia. Wouldnt listen to them. Alex Jones is unbearable, looks to be on the verge of an aneurysm. Stephan Molyneaux is an arrogant prick who imagines misogyny is intelligence..
    Etc
    The left wing version of the conspiracy right are the neurotic uber progressives. I cannot think of one person but Im sure examples exist. However Youtube is packed with videos from people in their teens, Im talking 15 to 17, posting manic celebrations of their top surgery, even videologues of their vaginoplasty at 17. Unboxing testosterone or estrogen as early teenagers. Wailing videos as they go through hormonal ups and downs. Instagram and facebook has proud trans moms pimping out their preteens in provocative poses. Major mainstream news and hoards of social media accounts laud and go weak for the awesome drag kids. If you do not think there is equivalent insanity in the HARD SJW camp, people whose minds have perverted reason, you are just being willfully blind.


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    #68
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users Posts: 28,805 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    20Cent wrote:
    They both sell stuff. Amazon and Alex Jones are the exact same as well then.


    Amazon and Alex Jones, there's a bit of a difference there! Who the fcuk could even listen to jones, it's just drivel


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    #69
    Das Reich
    Registered Users Posts: 736 ✭✭✭Das Reich


    There is an United Statian program where a very effeminate man with virtually absent testosterone brings to his country an older Brazilian woman that was married before and have kids already. Basically those men can't find woman from his own country despite having good jobs. Now look at his cousin, much more masculine, with an woman from his country. Easy to tell who between them two who probably have right wings views and who is left wings.

    https://youtu.be/ZVAttBtJSNQ


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    #70
    KyussB
    Registered Users Posts: 2,314 ✭✭✭KyussB


    Look at the home page of the Guardian any given day, and see if you can avoid your face imploding, through cringing at the 'feminist with a clickbaity opinion' type articles.

    Feminism/egalitarianism is important and all, but it's been partially hijacked with enormous amounts of bullshit, and the Guardian is one of the worst for cashing in on putting out shite like that.


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    #71
    20Cent
    Registered Users Posts: 8,934 ✭✭✭20Cent


    Gynoid wrote: »
    I cant bear people like PJW or Gemma or such - they have a mean, cold weirdness and paranoia. Wouldnt listen to them. Alex Jones is unbearable, looks to be on the verge of an aneurysm. Stephan Molyneaux is an arrogant prick who imagines misogyny is intelligence..
    Etc
    The left wing version of the conspiracy right are the neurotic uber progressives. I cannot think of one person but Im sure examples exist. However Youtube is packed with videos from people in their teens, Im talking 15 to 17, posting manic celebrations of their top surgery, even videologues of their vaginoplasty at 17. Unboxing testosterone or estrogen as early teenagers. Wailing videos as they go through hormonal ups and downs. Instagram and facebook has proud trans moms pimping out their preteens in provocative poses. Major mainstream news and hoards of social media accounts laud and go weak for the awesome drag kids. If you do not think there is equivalent insanity in the HARD SJW camp, people whose minds have perverted reason, you are just being willfully blind.

    Just you can't think of any at the moment.


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    #72
    20Cent
    Registered Users Posts: 8,934 ✭✭✭20Cent


    Das Reich wrote: »
    There is an United Statian program where a very effeminate man with virtually absent testosterone brings to his country an older Brazilian woman that was married before and have kids already. Basically those men can't find woman from his own country despite having good jobs. Now look at his cousin, much more masculine, with an woman from his country. Easy to tell who between them two who probably have right wings views and who is left wings.

    https://youtu.be/ZVAttBtJSNQ

    Em ok.


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    #73
    20Cent
    Registered Users Posts: 8,934 ✭✭✭20Cent


    KyussB wrote: »
    Look at the home page of the Guardian any given day, and see if you can avoid your face imploding, through cringing at the 'feminist with a clickbaity opinion' type articles.

    Feminism/egalitarianism is important and all, but it's been partially hijacked with enormous amounts of bullshit, and the Guardian is one of the worst for cashing in on putting out shite like that.

    The Guardian is not the equivalent to f Alex Jones though is it.


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    #74
    Gynoid
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,524 ✭✭✭Gynoid


    20Cent wrote: »
    Just you can't think of any at the moment.

    I gave a load of examples. Cant you read?

    By the way propaganda comes in different forms - iconoclasts, ravers with a camera and editing package, sandwich board bearers, glossy adverts, movies, large newspapers, and so on. It is naive and dangerous to think otherwise.
    Read Ordinary Men, a book about regular ordinary good guys who got turned into cold murdering psychopaths by the Nazi machine. They used film, newspaper, mainstream channels to propagandise, so that ordinary people did not even realise what was happening to them.
    You are completely wrong to imagine there is only lunacy on one side right now


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    #75
    [Deleted User]
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    Calling people you don't agree with grifters comes across as the name-calling of someone who has lost the argument,.

    This sort of terminology/obvious name-calling will do you no good..

    Why are you still so caught up in the (so last century) left right paradigm?..
    Can you not recognize that there might be elements of truth on both sides? .


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    #76
    20Cent
    Registered Users Posts: 8,934 ✭✭✭20Cent


    Gynoid wrote: »
    I gave a load of examples. Cant you read?

    By the way propaganda comes in different forms - iconoclasts, ravers with a camera and editing package, sandwich board bearers, glossy adverts, movies, large newspapers, and so on. It is naive and dangerous to think otherwise.
    Read Ordinary Men, a book about regular ordinary good guys who got turned into cold murdering psychopaths by the Nazi machine. They used film, newspaper, mainstream channels to propagandise, so that ordinary people did not even realise what was happening to them.
    You are completely wrong to imagine there is only lunacy on one side right now

    I can read you don't name a single one in your post.


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    #77
    KyussB
    Registered Users Posts: 2,314 ✭✭✭KyussB


    20Cent wrote: »
    The Guardian is not the equivalent to f Alex Jones though is it.
    It isn't, no - but what's the criteria? Is it bad when it's some smaller-scale/independent blogger or such - and then ok when it's a mainstream/'politically-acceptable' newspaper?

    I don't see why mainstream outlets are so quickly overlooked like that - if anything, they should be held to much harsher scrutiny than smaller outlets.


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    #78
    20Cent
    Registered Users Posts: 8,934 ✭✭✭20Cent


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Calling people you don't agree with grifters comes across as the name-calling of someone who has lost the argument,.

    This sort of terminology/obvious name-calling will do you no good..

    Why are you still so caught up in the (so last century) left right paradigm?..
    Can you not recognize that there might be elements of truth on both sides? .

    I believe them to be insincere and peddling hate and division for money. They don't care about truth or reality just framing everything in a way their audience wants to hear in order to make money. What do you call someone like Alex Jones?


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    #79
    osarusan
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    David Pakman's youtube channel.


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    #80
    20Cent
    Registered Users Posts: 8,934 ✭✭✭20Cent


    KyussB wrote: »
    It isn't, no - but what's the criteria? Is it bad when it's some smaller-scale/independent blogger or such - and then ok when it's a mainstream/'politically-acceptable' newspaper?

    I don't see why mainstream outlets are so quickly overlooked like that - if anything, they should be held to much harsher scrutiny than smaller outlets.

    A newspaper will have a bias or whatever but they don't generally report that school shootings are government conspiracies and the victims are all actors. Totally different to advocating for gay rights or trans bathrooms or things like that.


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    #81
    20Cent
    Registered Users Posts: 8,934 ✭✭✭20Cent


    osarusan wrote: »
    David Pakman's youtube channel.

    Throw up a video of him saying something wildly untrue for money then.


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    #82
    KyussB
    Registered Users Posts: 2,314 ✭✭✭KyussB


    20Cent wrote: »
    A newspaper will have a bias or whatever but they don't generally report that school shootings are government conspiracies and the victims are all actors. Totally different to advocating for gay rights or trans bathrooms or things like that.
    They've done worse - uncritically regurgitate propaganda aboit WMD's, Russia/Putin, even made up ridiculous conspiracies about Assange in the case of the Guardian (that Paul Manafort secretly met him, when he was still in the then most surveilled building in the UK...).

    People like Alex Jones will only convince idiots. Mainstream outlets can pass the grossly non-credible, as credible among the wider public - making them far more dangerous - with actual real-world/geopolitical consequences, that we have witnessed.


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    #83
    [Deleted User]
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    20Cent wrote: »
    I believe them to be insincere and peddling hate and division for money. They don't care about truth or reality just framing everything in a way their audience wants to hear in order to make money. What do you call someone like Alex Jones?

    They are probably not insincere. It's very convenient that you pick Alex Jones. He's more out there than most..he did some proper journalism back in the day though..Jon Ronson would never have published that book if it weren't for Alex Jones. The equivalent on the left have been given more of a platform, and been pushed as pseudo intellectual socio pol chick lit for a while..

    Like, is Blind boy a grifter?..Is Louise o Neill a grifter?.. genuine question..in your opinion do they fall under your definition of it?

    It's different perspectives dude..

    Although I don't expect you to be able to understand that because of the reptilian controlling your mind..


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    #84
    listermint
    Registered Users Posts: 33,613 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Excellent fishing expedition OP


    It literally catches all the usual suspects who claim not to be alt right into giving out about this faux left bogeyman. Only took a few posts to pull one


    Amazing the same folks claim not to be alt right but spend their time traipsing through or creating daily immigration threads , anything to do with social welfare, and don't even mention things like the climate.


    This thread made me laugh.


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    #85
    20Cent
    Registered Users Posts: 8,934 ✭✭✭20Cent


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    They are probably not insincere. It's very convenient that you pick Alex Jones. He's more out there than most..he did some proper journalism back in the day though..Jon Ronson would never have published that book if it weren't for Alex Jones. The equivalent on the left have been given more of a platform, and been pushed as pseudo intellectual socio pol chick lit for a while..

    Like, is Blind boy a grifter?..Is Louise o Neill a grifter?.. genuine question..in your opinion do they fall under your definition of it?

    It's different perspectives dude..

    Although I don't expect you to be able to understand that because of the reptilian controlling your mind..

    Who does blind boy and Louise O,'Neill pour hate onto for monetary gain?


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    #86
    [Deleted User]
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    20Cent wrote: »
    Who does blind boy and Louise O,'Neill pour hate onto for monetary gain?

    They're pushing ideology for monetary gain..


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    #87
    20Cent
    Registered Users Posts: 8,934 ✭✭✭20Cent


    Deleted User wrote: »
    They're pushing ideology for monetary gain..

    What ideology are they pushing and who are they hating on?


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    #88
    GreenandRed
    Registered Users Posts: 480 ✭✭GreenandRed


    Junkyard Tom wrote: »
    Oh I see, you think the Democrats and their supporters in the US are 'left wing'?

    God love ye.


    Left wing for Americans. It's easy to be left wing when you have money in the bank.


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    #89
    20Cent
    Registered Users Posts: 8,934 ✭✭✭20Cent


    Can anyone throw up some videos or links to left wing version of this?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntWieh7YIgY


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    #90
    Irish Guitarist
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,736 ✭✭✭Irish Guitarist


    There's a 'documentary' series called Explained on Netflix. There's an episode about cults. They're talking about the Jonestown massacre and the Heavens Gate cult. Then out of nowhere they go into this weird rant about Donald Trump because apparently Trump supporters are in a cult too. They somehow make a tenuous link between cults, Trump and recent mass shootings by white people. There's another episode where they're talking about how computer coding works. This airhead explains that if you do a Google search for the word 'party' you'll find loads of pictures of Asians and white people partying because that's the race of most programmers, therefore more people from ethnic minorities and women need to start coding.

    I'd consider this kind of nonsense the left wing equivalent of Paul Joseph Watson. This series is made by a company called Vox who have their own YouTube channel. Here's a video where they explain how colour film couldn't reproduce black peoples skin, not because of any technical limitations, but because of racism.



    There's loads more shite like this on Netflix too. Pretty much any documentary they produce themselves has some biased angle.


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    #91
    [Deleted User]
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    I can't be arsed trying to have a discussion with you.. It's like banging your head off a wall..

    Jung said "people don't have ideas, ideas have people".. It's a question of cognitive biases..

    You really are doing the cause no good calling those you disagree with names though..


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