Rosslare Container Migrants disappear from Direct Provision Centre

ThunbergsAreGo · 24-11-2019 7:40pm

PMBC wrote: »

Ireland had a population of over 8 million before the Famine so why could we not support that number at some time in the future.

What a stupid arguement.

Where do these people work? Are these 4m skilled? How do they commute to work?.

Our infrastructure in cities can't cope with existing population.

Sure why don't we just live in caves, we did that in Ireland before as well.

wellwhynot · 24-11-2019 7:58pm

bigroad wrote: »

It looks like our government couldn't care less about the safety of the Irish citizen.
Unfortunately it will take a murder/rape/truck into crowd ect before Leo and fg/ff to wake up.

There has been one murder and many rapes already.

PMBC · 24-11-2019 8:00pm

ThunbergsAreGo wrote: »

What a stupid arguement.

Where do these people work? Are these 4m skilled? How do they commute to work?.

Our infrastructure in cities can't cope with existing population.

Sure why don't we just live in caves, we did that in Ireland before as well.

Obviously you dont do subtlety. Spelling not a strong point either. Its the potential.

Pretzill · 24-11-2019 8:01pm

PMBC wrote: »

Obviously you dont do subtlety. Spelling not a strong point either. Its the potential.

it's

PMBC · 24-11-2019 8:02pm

Pretzill wrote: »

it's

Pretzill logic?

Del.Monte · 24-11-2019 8:03pm

Pretzill wrote: »

it's

You always have to be careful in your posting when being a grammar nazi.

ThunbergsAreGo · 24-11-2019 8:05pm

PMBC wrote: »

Obviously you dont do subtlety. Spelling not a strong point either. Its the potential.

What is the potential? We can't get infrastructure right as it is

Apologies I didn't mean to attack the poster, I just find it a ridiculous line that is trotted out by elected officials about this.

"Ireland used to...." "The Irish used to...."

iebamm2580 · 24-11-2019 8:06pm

Whats wrong with Iceland for example, no mad push to dramatically change their population.

mgn · 24-11-2019 8:08pm

ThunbergsAreGo wrote: »

What is the potential? We can't get infrastructure right as it is

Apologies I didn't mean to attack the poster, I just find it a ridiculous line that is trotted out by elected officials about this.

"Ireland used to...." "The Irish used to...."

And don't forget the line, the Irish were welcomed all around the world.

statesaver · 24-11-2019 8:09pm

iebamm2580 wrote: »

Whats wrong with Iceland for example, no mad push to dramatically change their population.

They are not in the EU for one which helps if you do not want forced multiculturalism in your country

Hego Damask · 24-11-2019 8:18pm

Del.Monte wrote: »

A number of the migrants found on a ship to Rosslare last Thursday have left a Dublin direct provision centre and are believed to be heading for the UK. You couldn't make this stuff up. Imagine arriving illegally in Australia and just being allowed to wander off untraced into the country.

I'm sure that the Gardai know everything about their affiliations to ISIS etc. after talking to them for a few hours at Rosslare. :rolleyes:

ThE OAP who is Minister for Justice needs to be sacked and somebody with a glimmer of intelligence put in his place. The security of the country is a joke while this sort of nonsense continues.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/migrants-found-on-ship-to-rosslare-have-left-direct-provision-centre-in-dublin-966197.html

Disgraceful racism here!!

ChikiChiki · 24-11-2019 8:32pm

Hego Damask wrote: »

Disgraceful racism here!!

Where?

Galwayguy35 · 24-11-2019 8:38pm

PMBC wrote: »

Ireland had a population of over 8 million before the Famine so why could we not support that number at some time in the future.

Yes and they supported themselves by producing their own food, mainly potatoes and we all know what happened when the crop failed.

Dude89 · 24-11-2019 8:47pm

Mules wrote: »

Why are the migrants so keen to go to the UK from France. Are the French less generous with benefits or is there something else?

Shorter family reunification waiting times maybe?

Spanish Eyes · 24-11-2019 8:47pm

Strange that places like Portugal in EU don't seem to have the same issues with this kind of trafficking.

Spain does, from Morocco and African countries further South, and we all know about the Italian issue from Libya and the Greek influx from further East.

I agree that it is an EU construct. But some places like Ireland seem to be prone to having a lot of trafficked entrants, and dubious asylum seekers somehow. Must be social media alerts. We are not the easiest country to get to, but obviously the easiest country to stay in and be looked after for life.

tdf7187 · 24-11-2019 8:49pm

Del.Monte wrote: »

A number of the migrants found on a ship to Rosslare last Thursday have left a Dublin direct provision centre and are believed to be heading for the UK. You couldn't make this stuff up. Imagine arriving illegally in Australia and just being allowed to wander off untraced into the country.

I'm sure that the Gardai know everything about their affiliations to ISIS etc. after talking to them for a few hours at Rosslare. :rolleyes:

ThE OAP who is Minister for Justice needs to be sacked and somebody with a glimmer of intelligence put in his place. The security of the country is a joke while this sort of nonsense continues.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/migrants-found-on-ship-to-rosslare-have-left-direct-provision-centre-in-dublin-966197.html

Agree, but the idea that they have all scarpered off to the UK being put forward by the meeja is fanciful. Why would they go to that effort, wages and social welfare are much better here, even allowing for the higher cost of living.

tdf7187 · 24-11-2019 8:51pm

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Strange that places like Portugal in EU don't seem to have the same issues with this kind of trafficking.

Spain does, from Morocco and African countries further South, and we all know about the Italian issue from Libya and the Greek influx from further East.

I agree that it is an EU construct. But some places like Ireland seem to be prone to having a lot of trafficked entrants, and dubious asylum seekers somehow. Must be social media alerts. We are not the easiest country to get to, but obviously the easiest country to stay in and be looked after for life.

Ireland is a soft touch and has been for two decades. Word gets out sooner or later.

PowerToWait · 24-11-2019 8:57pm

wellwhynot wrote: »

There has been one murder and many rapes already.

Just so we’re clear, you have proof there have been “many” rapes committed by asylum seekers in Ireland, as well as a murder? How many rapes exactly? Can you post a source please?

Montage of Feck · 24-11-2019 8:58pm

Well it's good that they won't be sponging off the Irish taxpayer, I suppose. But still kind of scary that people that entered the country illegally, from an area recently under the control of a group which violently seeks to subvert democracy, just wander off of their own accord.

PowerToWait · 24-11-2019 9:03pm

ChikiChiki wrote: »

Where?

The direct implication that the group are members of ISIS simply by dint of their ethnicity would be a blatantly racist allegation.

Of course, the Kurds have spent the past few years bravely battling ISIS but who cares about any of that?

AlekSmart · 24-11-2019 9:07pm

tdf7187 wrote: »

Agree, but the idea that they have all scarpered off to the UK being put forward by the meeja is fanciful. Why would they go to that effort, wages and social welfare are much better here, even allowing for the higher cost of living.

They've probably just popped out for some reinforcements,or to top up their mobiles ?

The Department of Justice felt it necessary to clear the air on accomodating the lads,just in case the oul relations might be put off by the misinformation being put out on the net......

However it (Dept of Justice) stressed the men rescued from the boat were being accommodated and not detained.

“The system of Direct Provision is in place to offer food, shelter and ancillary services to persons seeking international protection,” the statement read.

“It is not compulsory, and persons who arrive seeking asylum are offered accommodation by the State while their cases are being considered, but are not obliged to take up the offer.

“On a point of information, in Ireland people who are seeking international protection are not detained.

I do hope this message will be posted at as many European gateways to Éire as can be found....and in as many languages as we have translators

That 8 Million target MUST be filled !

tdf7187 · 24-11-2019 9:14pm

AlekSmart wrote: »

They've probably just popped out for some reinforcements,or to top up their mobiles ?

The Department of Justice felt it necessary to clear the air on accomodating the lads,just in case the oul relations might be put off by the misinformation being put out on the net......

I do hope this message will be posted at as many European gateways to Éire as can be found....and in as many languages as we have translators

That 8 Million target MUST be filled !

From the article:

“On a point of information, in Ireland people who are seeking international protection are not detained."

Unbelievable. Meanwhile former president McAleese, auditioning for the role of Virtue Signaler in Chief, is complaining about the Irish being wacist or somewhat.

Ha Long Bay · 24-11-2019 9:15pm

AlekSmart wrote: »

They've probably just popped out for some reinforcements,or to top up their mobiles ?

The Department of Justice felt it necessary to clear the air on accomodating the lads,just in case the oul relations might be put off by the misinformation being put out on the net......

I do hope this message will be posted at as many European gateways to Éire as can be found....and in as many languages as we have translators

That 8 Million target MUST be filled !

Leaving the hyperbole nonsense aside and using actual figures it would take around 500 years.

Source https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php?title=File:Number_of_(non-EU)_asylum_seekers_in_the_EU_and_EFTA_Member_States,_2017_and_2018_(thousands_of_first_time_applicants)_YB19.png

AlekSmart · 24-11-2019 9:19pm

PowerToWait wrote: »

The direct implication that the group are members of ISIS simply by dint of their ethnicity would be a blatantly racist allegation.

Of course, the Kurds have spent the past few years bravely battling ISIS but who cares about any of that?

It could just be that the Kurdish folk have more familiarity with good ol blighty ?

After all some of their Majesty's most famed Ministers dipped their toes into the pond at some point...

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/world/kurdistan-independence-referendum/how-kurds-became-part-of-iraq/

The result has been decades of civil strife, going back to the famed Kurdish leader, Sheikh Mahmoud Hafid Barzanji, who led two major uprisings and headed a short-lived Kurdish kingdom in Sulaimania, crushed by British forces in 1924.

Maybe our lads are relations...or very patient assassins ?

AlekSmart · 24-11-2019 9:20pm

john4321 wrote: »

Leaving the hyperbole nonsense aside and using actual figures it would take around 500 years.

Source https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php?title=File:Number_of_(non-EU)_asylum_seekers_in_the_EU_and_EFTA_Member_States,_2017_and_2018_(thousands_of_first_time_applicants)_YB19.png

Apologies for that...I see that figure was amended to 10 Million on live Wireless this morning.

Just have to do our best I suppose ?

Spanish Eyes · 24-11-2019 9:24pm

Time has come to fight back against this right on BS.

Ha Long Bay · 24-11-2019 9:24pm

AlekSmart wrote: »

Apologies for that...I see that figure was amended to 10 Million on live Wireless this morning.

Just have to do our best I suppose ?

Sorry I dont follow. Are you trying to say there is some plan to bring in 5 million asylum seekers?

woohoo!!! · 24-11-2019 9:27pm

Ironicname wrote: »

Cool. That's on them. Now tell me, do you think what happened with these illegal immigrants is ok?

Couldn't care less if they went to UK tbh. Leave aside scare mongering about Isis types, there's a huge global problem with migration. A lot of folk are obviously desperate to get out of where they are and the means of getting to Europe is via smugglers and criminal gangs. Therefore a whole of Europe approach needed to deal with it (whether in EU or not).

Separately and similar approach needed for dealing with asylum seekers.

Del.Monte · 24-11-2019 9:27pm

PowerToWait wrote: »

The direct implication that the group are members of ISIS simply by dint of their ethnicity would be a blatantly racist allegation.

Of course, the Kurds have spent the past few years bravely battling ISIS but who cares about any of that?

I was merely pointing that in the very limited time that the Gardai had to vet these people they would have been able to establish little more than they weren't Irish. No racism intended or actual.

Perhaps you think they all had ID cards, passports and utility bills on their persons?

Spanish Eyes · 24-11-2019 9:28pm

tdf7187 wrote: »

From the article:

“On a point of information, in Ireland people who are seeking international protection are not detained."

Unbelievable. Meanwhile former president McAleese, auditioning for the role of Virtue Signaler in Chief, is complaining about the Irish being wacist or somewhat.

She is just waiting to be ordained as the first woman priest in the Catholic Church.

Angry woman indeed. But she will be waiting and she knows it. But she can feck off if she thinks she can tell the rest of us how to react or label us or anything like that.

This kind of virtue signalling has gone on for far too long now. We are ok, we have brains, we do not need to be lectured to. Go away thanks.

Rosslare Container Migrants disappear from Direct Provision Centre

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