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Crew cab/ passenger jeep

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  • #62
    Albert Johnson
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 1,869 Mod ✭✭✭✭Albert Johnson


    Mad_maxx wrote: »
    I test drove one a year ago, not too bad at all

    Depreciation would be enormous however

    I brought a friend's one for a spin last week but I'm not used to an automatic so spent more time concentrating on that then the driving experience. They seem a nice comfortable yolk although this one in particular was high spec so it's hard to compare like with like. I agree that depreciation would be a big drawback, either trade for new again or sell privately at a large discount. The exterior styling isn't the most pleasing either and it looks pretty bare imo although I could learn to live with that.

    Another thing that bug's me about almost all pickup manufacturer's in recent years is that they've made there jeeps so much bigger and more awkward. The newer Ford ranger and Hilux in particular are like a tank compared to the older models with lots of nice but impractical chrome work. When you stick a reasonable sized trailer on tow your equivalent in size to a good lorry and would need a map to get turned in tight yard's.


  • #63
    Hard Knocks
    Registered Users Posts: 3,918 ✭✭✭Hard Knocks


    Albert Johnson wrote: »
    I brought a friend's one for a spin last week but I'm not used to an automatic so spent more time concentrating on that then the driving experience. They seem a nice comfortable yolk although this one in particular was high spec so it's hard to compare like with like. I agree that depreciation would be a big drawback, either trade for new again or sell privately at a large discount. The exterior styling isn't the most pleasing either and it looks pretty bare imo although I could learn to live with that.

    Another thing that bug's me about almost all pickup manufacturer's in recent years is that they've made there jeeps so much bigger and more awkward. The newer Ford ranger and Hilux in particular are like a tank compared to the older models with lots of nice but impractical chrome work. When you stick a reasonable sized trailer on tow your equivalent in size to a good lorry and would need a map to get turned in tight yard's.
    A drover at local mart said that last year, that crew-cabs seams to need more space to get into loading bays


  • #64
    farawaygrass
    Registered Users Posts: 1,899 ✭✭✭farawaygrass


    I test drove a 00 reg l200 a few years ago and the lock was absolutely shocking on it. Turning out the gate on straight on the road was just about doable without having to reverse a bit. Dunno was it just that pick up or can it be adjusted but it turned me off anyhow


  • #65
    Mad_maxx
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    I've never drove one but often heard that while not especially comfortable?

    The Izusu Dmax are very reliable?


  • #66
    Albert Johnson
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    farawaygrass wrote: »
    I test drove a 00 reg l200 a few years ago and the lock was absolutely shocking on it. Turning out the gate on straight on the road was just about doable without having to reverse a bit. Dunno was it just that pick up or can it be adjusted but it turned me off anyhow

    The L200 have an especially poor steering lock but none of the pickups I've driven have been anything more than average in this regard. I had an Lwb Land cruiser before my current ranger and it had a lot a smaller turning circle than the Ford. A lot of yards locally are badly designed (think back to the days of a Massey 35 or a Jerusalem jeep) and having a vehicle that handle's like a boat is no help. Some of the pickup and trailer combinations I've encountered would require a trip down to the crossroads to turn them.


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  • #67
    Hard Knocks
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    farawaygrass wrote: »
    I test drove a 00 reg l200 a few years ago and the lock was absolutely shocking on it. Turning out the gate on straight on the road was just about doable without having to reverse a bit. Dunno was it just that pick up or can it be adjusted but it turned me off anyhow

    The steering is better on the 06+ models


  • #68
    Who2
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    Mad_maxx wrote: »
    I've never drove one but often heard that while not especially comfortable?

    The Izusu Dmax are very reliable?

    i would definately disagree on the comfort, they are a far more stable and comfortable drive than the new hilux and im not hearing any bad reports about them and they would be fairly popular around me. theres three lads i know that have vw amoraks but they seem to spend a fair bit of time in the mechanics.
    The new hiluxs are a pure disaster on any kind of corner and would be dragged around by either the amarok or even the 1.9 dmax.


  • #69
    Mad_maxx
    Registered Users Posts: 13,505 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    Who2 wrote: »
    i would definately disagree on the comfort, they are a far more stable and comfortable drive than the new hilux and im not hearing any bad reports about them and they would be fairly popular around me. theres three lads i know that have vw amoraks but they seem to spend a fair bit of time in the mechanics.
    The new hiluxs are a pure disaster on any kind of corner and would be dragged around by either the amarok or even the 1.9 dmax.

    Always liked the look of a D max ,see plenty around me too , like I said, heard no complaints about reliability but some claimed they had a hard ride ?


  • #70
    Cavanjack
    Registered Users Posts: 2,542 ✭✭✭Cavanjack


    Mad_maxx wrote: »
    Always liked the look of a D max ,see plenty around me too , like I said, heard no complaints about reliability but some claimed they had a hard ride ?

    They look alright but a1.9l would only be suitable for pulling a few calves or sheep.


  • #71
    Still waters
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    Cavanjack wrote: »
    They look alright but a1.9l would only be suitable for pulling a few calves or sheep.

    Are they not 1.9 with a twin turbo i thought


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  • #72
    Who2
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    Cavanjack wrote: »
    They look alright but a1.9l would only be suitable for pulling a few calves or sheep.

    I seen one pull a 16’ triaxle full with cows and calves up a brave hill no hassle, dropped gears alright but an invincible hilux was after failing with the same load.


  • #73
    selectamatic
    Registered Users Posts: 3,887 ✭✭✭selectamatic


    Who2 wrote: »
    I seen one pull a 16’ triaxle full with cows and calves up a brave hill no hassle, dropped gears alright but an invincible hilux was after failing with the same load.

    off road or on road? same driver in each? auto or manual?


  • #74
    Who2
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    selectamatic wrote: »
    off road or on road? same driver in each? auto or manual?

    Two different drivers both manual both in convoy, the hilux in front stopped and had to let the cattle off and walk them on the rest of the way, when he got out of the way the other lad pulled off no hassle with his load. It was up a farm lane and both lads would be well seasoned with driving with big loads behind them.
    I like hiluxs but the new ones seem like pure scrap.


  • #75
    Hard Knocks
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    Who2 wrote: »
    Two different drivers both manual both in convoy, the hilux in front stopped and had to let the cattle off and walk them on the rest of the way, when he got out of the way the other lad pulled off no hassle with his load. It was up a farm lane and both lads would be well seasoned with driving with big loads behind them.
    I like hiluxs but the new ones seem like pure scrap.
    The 3.0L 06-09 was high geared which made it bad for towing
    The 2.5L of same age was suppose to be better


  • #76
    selectamatic
    Registered Users Posts: 3,887 ✭✭✭selectamatic


    Who2 wrote: »
    Two different drivers both manual both in convoy, the hilux in front stopped and had to let the cattle off and walk them on the rest of the way, when he got out of the way the other lad pulled off no hassle with his load. It was up a farm lane and both lads would be well seasoned with driving with big loads behind them.
    I like hiluxs but the new ones seem like pure scrap.

    It really does sound like driver error tbh they should be well fit to pull such a load. But ya they're too dear for what they are imo so I'd not be rushing out to buy one. Emissions restrictions have ruined this market segment.

    The real elephant in the room though is the fact that none of these sorta loads are legal behind a yoke if push came to shove. Land into an rsa checkpoint with such a setup and it won't be pretty.


  • #77
    funkey_monkey
    Registered Users Posts: 8,044 ✭✭✭funkey_monkey


    Be aware that mitsubishi are withdrawing fully from Europe so you may get a good deal on a fresh one (or avoid depending on your pov).

    I drove a crew cab once for a fella nearby. Can't remember the make, but if you are planning on doing many miles with kids, you might want one with rear shocks instead of springs as the ride in the rear was sickness inducing. Very bumpy.

    Also make sure you check the first gear - I've found a few of them have a first gear that is so tall you need to slip the clutch to take off to a ridiculous extent. Drove an old 5 speed Nissan which pulled like a train in comparison.


  • #78
    kerryjack
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    Maybe toyota are not the beast that they were 10 years ago. I know of 1 lad had a 00 landcruser and bought 201 and he disappointed with its pulling power, higher geared made for the suburban lifestyle.


  • #79
    foundation10
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    kerryjack wrote: »
    Maybe toyota are not the beast that they were 10 years ago. I know of 1 lad had a 00 landcruser and bought 201 and he disappointed with its pulling power, higher geared made for the suburban lifestyle.




    Is there any lowly geared 4X4 manufactured in last 10 years that can tow 3500Kgs?


  • #80
    Albert Johnson
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 1,869 Mod ✭✭✭✭Albert Johnson


    kerryjack wrote: »
    Maybe toyota are not the beast that they were 10 years ago. I know of 1 lad had a 00 landcruser and bought 201 and he disappointed with its pulling power, higher geared made for the suburban lifestyle.

    That's a common complaint among several lad's that have changed to a new or nearly new model from an early 2000's jeep. Usually if I smell a clutch burning at the mart it's a newer jeep reversing in oftentimes with only a half a load. An older jeep could pull up well loaded and back up to chutes without any bother. I keep telling lads that you need to switch to the low box when reversing or pulling off in an awkward spot with a lot of the higher geared Jeep's. It's a pity that a 2 wheel drive low box isn't an option for such scenarios.


  • #81
    Mad_maxx
    Registered Users Posts: 13,505 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    kerryjack wrote: »
    Maybe toyota are not the beast that they were 10 years ago. I know of 1 lad had a 00 landcruser and bought 201 and he disappointed with its pulling power, higher geared made for the suburban lifestyle.

    That's a common opinion

    Oldies had more grunt

    Diesel engines have been refined so much that the raw power is no longer there

    See it with my brothers business class landcruiser, gorgeous on the motorway, gutless on rural roads


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  • #82
    Hard Knocks
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    Albert Johnson wrote: »
    That's a common complaint among several lad's that have changed to a new or nearly new model from an early 2000's jeep. Usually if I smell a clutch burning at the mart it's a newer jeep reversing in oftentimes with only a half a load. An older jeep could pull up well loaded and back up to chutes without any bother. I keep telling lads that you need to switch to the low box when reversing or pulling off in an awkward spot with a lot of the higher geared Jeep's. It's a pity that a 2 wheel drive low box isn't an option for such scenarios.
    When I’ve a trailer on the L200 I always drive in 4H
    Got a scare when I first got it with a full triaxel
    For loading at Dowra Mart I’d be in low box


  • #83
    Gods Gift
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    kerryjack wrote: »
    Maybe toyota are not the beast that they were 10 years ago. I know of 1 lad had a 00 landcruser and bought 201 and he disappointed with its pulling power, higher geared made for the suburban lifestyle.

    Anytime you see a war torn country, it’s always a Toyota hilux that has the machine gun or rocket launchers stuck in the back of them. So much so that Toyota asked isis to refrain from using their brand. To which they replied allah hakbar


  • #84
    [Deleted User]
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    Albert Johnson wrote: »
    That's a common complaint among several lad's that have changed to a new or nearly new model from an early 2000's jeep. Usually if I smell a clutch burning at the mart it's a newer jeep reversing in oftentimes with only a half a load. An older jeep could pull up well loaded and back up to chutes without any bother. I keep telling lads that you need to switch to the low box when reversing or pulling off in an awkward spot with a lot of the higher geared Jeep's. It's a pity that a 2 wheel drive low box isn't an option for such scenarios.

    Not sure what advantage there would be in a 2 wheel drive low box, always better to have the drive to the 4 wheels when starting off for increased traction.


  • #85
    Mooooo
    Registered Users Posts: 8,611 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    Part of the reason perhaps to go auto if buying new or newish and will do a bit of towing? The auto in the amarok is 8 speed I think, newer ranger is similar, older one was 6 speed auto,


  • #86
    Albert Johnson
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    Selene Nervous Hardware wrote: »
    Not sure what advantage there would be in a 2 wheel drive low box, always better to have the drive to the 4 wheels when starting off for increased traction.

    It would save scrubbing the tire's when turning tight on a solid surface and probably be less stress on the transmission imo. I'd agree about the increased traction when taking off but I'm talking more about reversing. On a solid surface in 4 low you've nearly too much traction so that's why I think a 2 low box would reduce the traction problem while still providing the lower gearing ratio.


  • #87
    Gods Gift
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    Selene Nervous Hardware wrote: »
    Not sure what advantage there would be in a 2 wheel drive low box, always better to have the drive to the 4 wheels when starting off for increased traction.

    Backing a trailer in a yard or in the road. I’d alway use 2 low box.


  • #88
    [Deleted User]
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    Yeah on flat tarred surface it makes sense I suppose. I had our own yard and others I'd frequent in my head where you are always either backing up hill on gravel to pens or having to pull out up hill from a pen etc so 4wd is essential if you have any weight behind you.


  • #89
    lakill Farm
    Registered Users Posts: 4,735 ✭✭✭lakill Farm


    Cavanjack wrote: »
    Problem with the van is when I have to pick kids up on the way home from work. It wouldnt work



    Head home, pick up jeep and collect kids

    :D

    Problem solved.


  • #90
    Cavanjack
    Registered Users Posts: 2,542 ✭✭✭Cavanjack


    lakill Farm wrote: »
    Head home, pick up jeep and collect kids

    :D

    Problem solved.

    Those ten-15 minutes on a winters evening are precious.


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  • #91
    wrangler
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    Cavanjack wrote: »
    Those ten-15 minutes on a winters evening are precious.

    Crew cab van so, those peugeot 1.6 hdi engines run on the smell of diesel, I've the same engine I think in the 3008


    https://www.donedeal.ie/commercials-for-sale/peugeot-partner-1-6hdi-crew-cab-combi-van/25178792


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