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Biochar and natural farming

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  • #122
    Say my name
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    YFlyer wrote: »
    Activated carbon?

    No it was Plant derived something or other that the speaker was calling it.
    The speaker was feeding biochar to their cows and noticed improved health and reduction in the need for wormers.

    If the question is what is activated carbon?
    It's char that is exploded by steam making it many more times more porous than it was beforehand.
    The speaker would have been feeding activated carbon to their cows though.
    So your post is correct.


  • #123
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    YFlyer wrote: »
    Hi there

    Where was this conference?

    Thanks

    Yesterday in Claremorris.

    https://www.eventbrite.ie/e/biochar-and-activated-carbon-conference-tickets-49037624856


  • #124
    YFlyer
    Registered Users Posts: 9,717 ✭✭✭YFlyer


    Say my name wrote: »
    No it was Plant derived something or other that the speaker was calling it.
    The speaker was feeding biochar to their cows and noticed improved health and reduction in the need for wormers.

    If the question is what is activated carbon?
    It's char that is exploded by steam making it many more times more porous than it was beforehand.
    The speaker would have been feeding activated carbon to their cows though.
    So your post is correct.

    Thanks.

    There is research carried out at University of Limerick on biochar for plant growth.

    Where was the conference?


  • #125
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    YFlyer wrote: »
    Thanks.

    There is research carried out at University of Limerick on biochar for plant growth.

    Where was the conference?

    See above.

    Yea the University of Limerick was well represented yesterday.


  • #126
    YFlyer
    Registered Users Posts: 9,717 ✭✭✭YFlyer


    Say my name wrote: »
    Yesterday in Claremorris.

    https://www.eventbrite.ie/e/biochar-and-activated-carbon-conference-tickets-49037624856

    Thanks a million.


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  • #127
    YFlyer
    Registered Users Posts: 9,717 ✭✭✭YFlyer


    Say my name wrote: »
    See above.

    Yea the University of Limerick was well represented yesterday.

    Was probably my supervisor Prof. Michael Hayes that would likely have said something from the floor.


  • #128
    patsy_mccabe
    Registered Users Posts: 10,674 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    You're like a dog with a bone on this Biochar 'Say My Name'.

    'The Bishops blessed the Blueshirts in Galway, As they sailed beneath the Swastika to Spain'



  • #129
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    YFlyer wrote: »
    Was probably my supervisor Prof. Michael Hayes that would likely have said something from the floor.

    P.m. sent.


  • #130
    charolais0153
    Registered Users Posts: 6,225 ✭✭✭charolais0153


    patsy_mccabe wrote: »
    You're like a dog with a bone on this Biochar 'Say My Name'.

    Aye. Tis in the farmers journal also


  • #131
    charolais0153
    Registered Users Posts: 6,225 ✭✭✭charolais0153


    Say my name wrote: »
    Yesterday in Claremorris.

    https://www.eventbrite.ie/e/biochar-and-activated-carbon-conference-tickets-49037624856

    Did you attend


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  • #132
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    patsy_mccabe wrote: »
    You're like a dog with a bone on this Biochar 'Say My Name'.

    Ciunas at the back of the class!!!


  • #133
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    charolais0153 wrote: »
    Did you attend

    You've poor land over there.

    Too many stone walls. Not enough trees on ditches and zero dairy cows.


  • #134
    charolais0153
    Registered Users Posts: 6,225 ✭✭✭charolais0153


    Say my name wrote: »
    You've poor land over there.

    Too many stone walls. Not enough trees on ditches and zero dairy cows.
    Whatever about land,the weather is a way worse,only about two wet days in dublin in 2 months.
    Yewtree is one side of claremorris, he wont like to hear that. What way did you go? M6 -M17


  • #135
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    charolais0153 wrote: »
    Whatever about land,the weather is a way worse,only about two wet days in dublin in 2 months.
    Yewtree is one side of claremorris, he wont like to hear that. What way did you go? M6 -M17

    If that's the motorway from ballinasloe to Galway and then the Sligo motorway.
    Then yep.

    I didn't post that I was going to attend beforehand as even though this is a fairly innocuous forum there's little trolls that could get ideas from reading here so it's better after the event.


  • #136
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    Converting bones to Biochar.

    It seems it's a commercial business in the U.S.
    Nice interesting article all the same.
    Napoleon gets a mention too.

    http://ecofarmingdaily.com/bone-char-benefits/?fbclid=IwAR0F-QpH0Ac_3R7_fmNax4XFFosdOaowpBxrUfjxE5qqrIIRVwrUTR1tWDM

    I wonder what happens the bones from the factories in this country?
    Meat and bone meal is done away with now soo. .?


  • #137
    alps
    Registered Users Posts: 4,922 ✭✭✭alps


    Say my name wrote: »
    Converting bones to Biochar.

    It seems it's a commercial business in the U.S.
    Nice interesting article all the same.
    Napoleon gets a mention too.

    http://ecofarmingdaily.com/bone-char-benefits/?fbclid=IwAR0F-QpH0Ac_3R7_fmNax4XFFosdOaowpBxrUfjxE5qqrIIRVwrUTR1tWDM

    I wonder what happens the bones from the factories in this country?
    Meat and bone meal is done away with now soo. .?

    Not a chance that it would be allowed to be land spread in Ireland.

    Render from factories is exported, to Germany I believe, for further treatment and incineration.


  • #138
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    alps wrote: »
    Not a chance that it would be allowed to be land spread in Ireland.

    Render from factories is exported, to Germany I believe, for further treatment and incineration.
    There'd be no biological material left after being cooked at 900 degrees though. Just carbon and whatever elements were in that bone in the first place.
    Makes sense to me anyway, carbon footprints and so so.


  • #139
    Water John
    Registered Users Posts: 21,103 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    I thought the BSE prion was very difficult to get rid of?


  • #140
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    Water John wrote: »
    I thought the BSE prion was very difficult to get rid of?

    I couldn't tell you on that but the charred bone should be the same nearly indistinguishable from a charred lump of timber. So imagine a pure charcoal lump of timber and the charcoal bone should be the very same.
    Somehow I doubt it could survive.
    Cos all would be left would be the carbon really and then obviously the pure elements in that char.

    Edit: seemingly it can survive up to 360 c for an hour at that heat and one group seemingly survived at 600 c for how long at that I don't know.


  • #141
    Water John
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    Because of its resilience I thought they hydrolised infected animals.
    Activated carbon is a great medium for water purification.


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  • #142
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    ganmo wrote: »
    I can’t see any mention of it on the feed materials registrar, until it’s register no miller will put it in a feed

    Meanwhile in Austria.

    https://www.charline.at/de/futterkohle/futterkohle-fuer-rinder/

    Getting closer to Ireland.
    Check out the calves option.

    (I should be getting a sainthood or something for all this. But when you see a good thing. You'd know it).


  • #143
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    Water John wrote: »
    Because of its resilience I thought they hydrolised infected animals.
    Activated carbon is a great medium for water purification.

    Not qualified to answer the first question.

    The second one.
    https://www.biochar-journal.org/en/ct/2


  • #144
    alps
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    Say my name wrote: »
    Meanwhile in Austria.

    https://www.charline.at/de/futterkohle/futterkohle-fuer-rinder/

    Getting closer to Ireland.
    Check out the calves option.

    (I should be getting a sainthood or something for all this. But when you see a good thing. You'd know it).

    Similar to mycotixin binders that we have used here. Some are charcoal based and more are just pure clay powder, as in pottery clay.


  • #145
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    peat-biochar at ESHI(DIT)&BordNaMóna (@PeatDit) Tweeted:
    At a conference in Belfast organised by Queen's University.
    Presenting the project including new results and learning about Irish ecological history. @ESHI_DIT @DrAlanJGilmer @FHEcol18 #FHEcol18 #phdlife https://t.co/xwZINx5dKF https://twitter.com/PeatDit/status/1057933162419011584?s=17


  • #146
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    Interesting factoid.

    Cattle fed biochar (ground up charcoal dust).
    Sh1t very dark brown to black dung.

    And solid.


  • #147
    patsy_mccabe
    Registered Users Posts: 10,674 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    Say my name wrote: »
    Interesting factoid.

    Cattle fed biochar (ground up charcoal dust).
    Sh1t very dark brown to black dung.

    Like Guinness................:rolleyes:

    'The Bishops blessed the Blueshirts in Galway, As they sailed beneath the Swastika to Spain'



  • #148
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    patsy_mccabe wrote: »
    Like Guinness................:rolleyes:

    Or if you dose a cow with a jar of coffee.

    The link to em all is they are all roasted carbon.

    Edit: So now you if you've a cow with stomach problems. Ground charcoal or if going for the coffee. The darkest most burnt coffee powder available.


  • #149
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    Mallorca.

    https://www.bakeryandsnacks.com/Article/2018/11/09/London-s-Hart-brothers-partner-with-Circle-Carbon-to-produce-organic-produce-using-biochar


  • #150
    timfromtang
    Registered Users Posts: 557 ✭✭✭timfromtang


    https://www.biochar-journal.org/en/ct/39


    tim


    in every parish is a man who could weld up one of these, cheap, open source, .........

    www.youtube.com/c/timfromtang

    Fuinseog abú



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  • #151
    blue5000
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    timfromtang wrote: »
    https://www.biochar-journal.org/en/ct/39


    tim


    in every parish is a man who could weld up one of these, cheap, open source, .........

    But it's only 15-20 % efficient on a DM basis.

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



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