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The Joker movie - starring Joaquin Phoenix (MOD: May contain Spoilers)

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  • #122
    peteeeed
    Registered Users Posts: 13,563 ✭✭✭✭peteeeed


    Uncharted wrote: »

    I'm hoping this is dark as possible with no Marvel-esque fluff.

    agreed , i hope its a return to nolan's play it straight and in the real world DC universe


  • #123
    yourdeadwright
    Registered Users Posts: 20,511 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    Uncharted wrote: »
    Really cannot wait for this movie.

    Phoenix could give Joker that truly,deeply ,depraved and unhinged angle we haven't seen on screen before.

    I'm hoping this is dark as possible with no Marvel-esque fluff.

    I think you might be correct,

    Everyone raves about Ledger ,who for my money has been the best Joker to date but mainly because no one before that has got near to playing the true Joker form the comic books,

    As you said no film has gone that dark with the Joker not even Nolan


  • #124
    branie2
    Registered Users Posts: 10,288 ✭✭✭✭branie2


    On my must see list


  • #125
    peteeeed
    Registered Users Posts: 13,563 ✭✭✭✭peteeeed


    “It will be Rated R. I’ve been asked this a lot. Just assumed people knew,” Todd Philips on an Instagram post when questioned by a fan.


  • #126
    [Deleted User]
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    Possibly the only super hero related movie that I've looked forward to in a decade


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  • #127
    peteeeed
    Registered Users Posts: 13,563 ✭✭✭✭peteeeed


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Possibly the only super hero related movie that I've looked forward to in a decade

    is it a superhero movie ?


  • #128
    Claude Burgundy
    Registered Users Posts: 2,543 ✭✭✭Claude Burgundy


    peteeeed wrote: »
    is it a superhero movie ?

    No but super hero related i would agree


  • #129
    [Deleted User]
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    peteeeed wrote: »
    is it a superhero movie ?


    Probably not when compared to the usual stuff being churned out, hence why I'm interested. He is a villain of batman who is a super hero so it broadly falls under that category.


  • #130
    peteeeed
    Registered Users Posts: 13,563 ✭✭✭✭peteeeed


    Claude Burgundy wrote: »
    No but super hero related i would agree

    to meet up with Robert Pattinson's batman in the batman reboot reboot ' the batman ' .... i hope


    although Macaulay Culkin is rumoured to be in that as the joker


  • #131
    pixelburp
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    I hope not: the whole point of this film was so the DC stories could find some narrative breathing room, and space to create something unique and creative. Wedging it back into the broader universe is a tedious proposition IMO.

    Besides: this Joker film feels small and intimate, and there's no way in hell the new Batman will be anything but a big, brash, noisy film. It'd be oil & water.


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  • #132
    peteeeed
    Registered Users Posts: 13,563 ✭✭✭✭peteeeed


    Matt reeves is directing the batman so I have hope


  • #133
    pixelburp
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 35,941 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    peteeeed wrote: »
    Matt reeves is directing the batman so I have hope

    Fair enough, and it's speculation either way until the first trailer comes out (and even then, knowing how deceptive the tone of those can be ...). But I don't have any faith that a Batman film would be allowed to be anything except a big, noisy blockbuster that's as shallow as a puddle.


  • #134
    TheValeyard
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    peteeeed wrote: »
    to meet up with Robert Pattinson's batman in the batman reboot reboot ' the batman ' .... i hope


    although Macaulay Culkin is rumoured to be in that as the joker

    61571944_3010000612358399_2323306848087376063_n.jpg?_nc_ht=scontent-frt3-2.cdninstagram.com


    Fake, but I could see it working.

    Fcuk Putin. Glory to Ukraine!



  • #135
    peteeeed
    Registered Users Posts: 13,563 ✭✭✭✭peteeeed


    TheValeyard wrote: »
    61571944_3010000612358399_2323306848087376063_n.jpg?_nc_ht=scontent-frt3-2.cdninstagram.com


    Fake, but I could see it working.

    Yep that's creepy


  • #136
    Uncharted
    Registered Users Posts: 4,138 ✭✭✭Uncharted


    TheValeyard wrote: »
    61571944_3010000612358399_2323306848087376063_n.jpg?_nc_ht=scontent-frt3-2.cdninstagram.com


    Fake, but I could see it working.


    Not a hope in hell. :(

    Culkin is doomed to be Kevin
    Mc Allister for eternity.


  • #137
    McLoughlin
    Registered Users Posts: 1,901 ✭✭✭McLoughlin


    pixelburp wrote: »
    I hope not: the whole point of this film was so the DC stories could find some narrative breathing room, and space to create something unique and creative. Wedging it back into the broader universe is a tedious proposition IMO.

    Besides: this Joker film feels small and intimate, and there's no way in hell the new Batman will be anything but a big, brash, noisy film. It'd be oil & water.

    If its a success I could see Warner Bros trying to wedge it into its other films.


  • #138
    peteeeed
    Registered Users Posts: 13,563 ✭✭✭✭peteeeed


    Todd Philips -
    We didn’t follow anything from the comic-books, which people are gonna be mad about,” the writer-director tells Empire. “We just wrote our own version of where a guy like Joker might come from. That’s what was interesting to me. We’re not even doing Joker, but the story of becoming Joker. It’s about this man.”

    https://www.empireonline.com/movies/news/joaquin-phoenix-joker-follow-comics-exclusive/


  • #139
    The White Wolf
    Registered Users Posts: 5,125 ✭✭✭The White Wolf


    peteeeed wrote: »
    Todd Philips -
    We didn’t follow anything from the comic-books, which people are gonna be mad about,” the writer-director tells Empire. “We just wrote our own version of where a guy like Joker might come from. That’s what was interesting to me. We’re not even doing Joker, but the story of becoming Joker. It’s about this man.”

    https://www.empireonline.com/movies/news/joaquin-phoenix-joker-follow-comics-exclusive/
    That won't go down to well. They might as well say the Joker name is just for the marketing of the film and nothing more.


  • #140
    stateofflux
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    Trailer looked awful..also without influence from Alan moore / frank Miller material it won't have the depth required...even Christopher Nolan knew this.


  • #141
    android1
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    stateofflux wrote: »
    Trailer looked awful..

    There's always one...


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  • #142
    RocketRaccoon
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    stateofflux wrote: »
    Trailer looked awful..also without influence from Alan moore / frank Miller material it won't have the depth required...even Christopher Nolan knew this.

    I haven't seen anyone else say that, how odd.


  • #143
    Uncharted
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    stateofflux wrote: »
    Trailer looked awful..also without influence from Alan moore / frank Miller material it won't have the depth required...even Christopher Nolan knew this.

    I'm blown away that you have that reaction to that trailer. Wow.

    It's tantalisingly epic imo.


  • #144
    johnny_ultimate
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 29,089 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    More importantly, a lot of Frank Miller’s work has the depth and maturity of a 12-year-old boy who’s just learned to swear and is still in the ‘girls have cooties’ stage of emotional development. So that’s not the highest hurdle for this film to clear :pac:


  • #145
    stateofflux
    Registered Users Posts: 1,563 ✭✭✭stateofflux


    Uncharted wrote: »
    I'm blown away that you have that reaction to that trailer. Wow.

    It's tantalisingly epic imo.

    Well its just an opinion..... i hope the movie delivers as i like phoenix and the director. the trailer looked overly try hard & theatrical ..reminded me of that bronson / clockwork orange style of circus ultraviolence which i think is pretentious.

    Again its just my opinion


  • #146
    pixelburp
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 35,941 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Frank Miller, blergh. An edgelord hack whose adolescent storytelling coincided with a renaissance for Batman by way of an overhyped schoolyard mashup of Bats v Supes. Nowhere near the pantheon of top comics writers of the ages, and thankfully as time ticks on his stature has diminished...


  • #147
    [Deleted User]
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    peteeeed wrote: »
    Todd Philips -
    We didn’t follow anything from the comic-books, which people are gonna be mad about,” the writer-director tells Empire. “We just wrote our own version of where a guy like Joker might come from. That’s what was interesting to me. We’re not even doing Joker, but the story of becoming Joker. It’s about this man.”

    https://www.empireonline.com/movies/news/joaquin-phoenix-joker-follow-comics-exclusive/

    Sounds good to me


  • #148
    TheIrishGrover
    Registered Users Posts: 5,964 ✭✭✭TheIrishGrover


    This looks interesting... The only concern I have (Admittedly from the impression given in the trailer only) is the whole usual "Oh, he suffers from depression so therefor he is a weirdo. People with mental-health issues have only one option: To get weirder and go bad"

    At least the animated Batman series/movie had the balls to ask of the hero: "Well, he's psychotic but how well adjusted are YOU? dressing up like a bat? C'mon" (WAAAAAAY before Nolan's trilogy).

    It does look interesting and anything that can help bury Leto's "joker" is good in my book


  • #149
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users Posts: 84,933 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    https://www.indiewire.com/2019/07/oscars-2020-tiff-awards-contenders-joker-jojo-rabbit-1202160225/

    Oscar Buzz
    https://forumofgames.com/




  • #150
    Slydice
    Registered Users Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    Don't bring the kids..

    Joker Movie Rated R for ‘Disturbing Behavior’ and More
    https://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/1094341-joker-movie-rated-r-for-disturbing-behavior-and-more
    Warner Bros. Pictures’s highly-anticipated Joker movie has officially been given an R-rating from the MPAA for “strong bloody violence, disturbing behavior, language and brief sexual images.”


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  • #151
    Mr Crispy
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    New trailer on Wednesday apparently.


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