ticket for not displaying tax

djimi wrote: »

Parked on, used on, its the same thing with regards that form. The car is on a public road, therefore it is using the public road. It doesnt matter if it is stationary at the time.

I see what you are getting at, and by all means take a chance and try use it as a loophole, but if the guards dont like what you are doing and they deem it that you have signed a false declaration then you could be in a lot of trouble.

I really don't understand.
It seems to be really simple sentence. I repeat it again:

I declare that the vehicle had not been used by me or with my consent in public place in the period from .... to ....

There's only one way to understand it.
Besides, "parked on" and "used on" is diffenet thing. That's for sure.
You say that car is on public road, therefore it's using the public road. That's true. But again it has nothing to do with declaration.
Because you didn't declare, that your car wasn't using the public road. You declared, that you didn't use the car on public road. And these two sentences have completely different point.

I could compare it to similar example.
Let's say you want to declare, that you were not laying on your bed.
Someone tells you that you did false declaration, because your bed is laying on the floor.
Can you see the nonsense here?

And yes. I you get charged by making false declaration you will be in serious trouble.
But by all means, this declaration we were talking about is not false.

CiniO wrote: »

There's only one way to understand it.
Besides, "parked on" and "used on" is diffenet thing. That's for sure.
You say that car is on public road, therefore it's using the public road. That's true. But again it has nothing to do with declaration.
Because you didn't declare, that your car wasn't using the public road. You declared, that you didn't use the car on public road. And these two sentences have completely different point.

And yes. I you get charged by making false declaration you will be in serious trouble.
But by all means, this declaration we were talking about is not false.

But the car is being used on a public road with your consent; youre the one who parked it there, or at least consented to it being parked there. You are consenting to it being used in a public place, therefore by signing that form it would be considered a false declaration.

Given that you can get a ticket for having a car parked in a public place without a current tax disc Im going to say with 90% certainty that in the case of the declaration of the car being off the road, the phrase "used by" also covers cars which are parked on a public road, but given that I am not a lawyer I cannot say for definate. Id be interested to see someone in the legal professions interpretation of it, but without a proper interpretation Id say you would be on very shakey ground to sign a declaration to say the car was off the road in this instance, especially given that if you have interpreted it wrong the car is already in the system as having been on the road in that time, and you would almost certainly be done for signing a false declaration.

The Road Traffic Acts define use as including to park.
A car parked in a public place must be taxed and insured and have a national car test (if over four years old) and have the discs displayed.
If the OP moves the car without first making sure he/she is insured then thats very serious.
Also it is a serious offence to knowingly make a false declaration.

Solution: Pay the fines or riske higher fines and a conviction in court. Insure the car and move it to a private place or tow it away to a private place.

dulaman wrote: »

yeah thanks dubluc and everyone else, that's the conclusion i've come to. jumped it any my friend drove it who had third party insurance.

got another fine in the post though.

does anybody know if the guards are required to put notice of a fine on windshield of the vehicle?

You are welcome.