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Rent increases when someone moves out

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    #32
    Graham
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,642 Mod ✭✭✭✭Graham


    Mod Note

    Curious1002, please dial down the tone of your posts please. The goading is unnecessary and unwelcome.

    Keep in mind there is nothing like enough information posted to ascertain the OPs position. You have no idea whether the OP is actually renting a room, is a joint tenant or something else. If you guess wrong, tenants might find themselves on the wrong side of an eviction notice. Don't do it.

    Do not reply to this post.


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    #33
    the_syco
    Registered Users Posts: 37,295 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    Curious1002 wrote: »
    I lived in a shared accommodation and we ourselves were replacing the outgoing tenant but under no circumstances we were liable for their rent if there was a week/month break in finding the replacement.
    Were you renting the room, or part of a lease for the house? It sounds like you had the former, whilst the OP has the latter. Unfortunately, without a lease the OP won't know if they are due to pay the rent or not.

    OP; do you pay the rent to the landlord, or the "head tenant"?


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    #34
    Mariahol
    Registered Users Posts: 17 ✭Mariahol


    the_syco wrote: »
    Were you renting the room, or part of a lease for the house? It sounds like you had the former, whilst the OP has the latter. Unfortunately, without a lease the OP won't know if they are due to pay the rent or not.

    OP; do you pay the rent to the landlord, or the "head tenant"?

    I pay the rent to the head tenant and she transfers it to the landlord. I have never met the landlord. She told the head tennant that she is to do all advertising, interviewing possible tenants etc.


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    #35
    Meeoow
    Registered Users Posts: 620 ✭✭✭Meeoow


    Mariahol wrote: »
    I pay the rent to the head tenant and she transfers it to the landlord. I have never met the landlord. She told the head tennant that she is to do all advertising, interviewing possible tenants etc.

    Has the head tenant been looking for a replacement for the other tenant yet? She gave a fair bit of notice that she was leaving didn't she?
    What's on your lease?


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    #36
    Mariahol
    Registered Users Posts: 17 ✭Mariahol


    Meeoow wrote: »
    Has the head tenant been looking for a replacement for the other tenant yet? She gave a fair bit of notice that she was leaving didn't she?
    What's on your lease?

    Yes it has been advertised since the start of december. I havnt seen the lease or know if there is one I signed nothing moving in and nobody else had either. The advert is for a single room to rent


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    #37
    Dav010
    Registered Users Posts: 14,001 ✭✭✭✭Dav010


    Mariahol wrote: »
    Yes it has been advertised since the start of december. I havnt seen the lease or know if there is one I signed nothing moving in and nobody else had either. The advert is for a single room to rent

    Ask your landlord for a copy. Note that there is no requirement for the lease to be written, but it does make life easier, and clearer for all concerned.


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    #38
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    You don't have to sign a lease for one to exist. There is an 'implied lease' which provides all of the protections of an actual, physical lease, under the Residential Tenancies Act (RTA). It is to stop unscrupulous landlords from not providing leases as a means to bypass the Act.

    However, that might mean SFA to you, depending on the living arrangements. If you were paying the head tenant, who in turn was paying the landlord, then you are not covered by the provisions of the RTA. You are a licencee, and have the same rights as someone who's sleeping on the sofa after a house party.

    You and the other housemate have, essentially, been fcuked over by the one who left. They should have found someone to take over their portion or regularised the situation with the rent.

    I'd tread carefully. The best solution, in the medium to long term, is to get the other room rented ASAP (covering the rent between yourselves until then) and request a lease. I'd request a separate lease for your room plus equal share of the common areas, if you want some sort of security.

    The landlord may refuse, as is their right. They may jack up the rent, based on where the property is and how long ago they last increased it. They could, legally, throw all your sh1t out into the front lawn and change the locks, if the lease was with the old head tenant and you and the other one are licencees.

    The other option is to have one lease and you all sign it. But if this happens again, and your other housemate fecks off without saying anything, you're now responsible for the whole rent. It's much less hassle for the landlord to go this route, but it carries significant risk as well, so be prepared to stand up for yourself. You would all be joint and severally liable for the rent, not to mention any other damage that could be inflicted, so it's in your best interests to look out for numero uno.

    Bottom line: Get the landlord's number, sit down and have a chat with them and see what they have to say. Get a lease sorted ASAP. Get the other room rented out even quicker than ASAP.


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    #39
    Curious1002
    Registered Users Posts: 225 ✭✭Curious1002


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