Avengers: Endgame [ SPOILERS FROM POST 613 ]

FunLover18 · 07-12-2018 4:35pm

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Mickeroo wrote: »

He seemed to be stuck in the after credits scene but it doesn't really matter he was always going to be in this so an explanation will likely be given either through exposition or showing us what happened.

It looks like some time passes between the Snap and Ant-Man coming back.

1. Steve is clean shaven - a small thing but I doubt shaving was on his immediate priority list after the snap.
2. We see a pic of Scott when they are talking about people lost - if that isn't a misdirection itself they won't have called him gone immediately. So there has to be some time where they are trying to find him.

Given Scott gets trapped at the exact moment of the snap, there are a few events that seem they need to take place before he gets to the Avengers HQ.

Also Clint has come out of retirement and become Ronin.

EagererBeaver · 07-12-2018 4:41pm

Why did Black Widow transform into Emily Blunt?

Mitch Connor · 07-12-2018 4:58pm

Sparko wrote: »

I missed that the first time, only saw Scott and Peter Parker and didn't notice it was Shuri there before it changed.

So as far as they knew Scott was on earth during the snap - but what about Peter? Do they know Peter was with Tony?

If they did, any they have him marked as gone does that mean it is after Tony has come back? Tony and Nebula would be the only ones that know Peter got snapped.

Are they saying Peter is gone cause they can't find him, or cause they know he got snapped...

Penn · 07-12-2018 5:06pm

Mitch Connor wrote: »

So as far as they knew Scott was on earth during the snap - but what about Peter? Do they know Peter was with Tony?

If they did, any they have him marked as gone does that mean it is after Tony has come back? Tony and Nebula would be the only ones that know Peter got snapped.

Are they saying Peter is gone cause they can't find him, or cause they know he got snapped...

They know Tony went into space as he told Pepper before they lost communication when on Ebony Maw's ship, but Tony didn't know Peter was on board too, so chances are the remaining Avengers didn't know Peter was with Tony and therefore think he died in the snap on Earth (as opposed to on Titan).

There'd be almost no way of knowing who did or didn't die in the Snap other than who is still missing after a few days. They might believe there's a chance Tony might still be alive if Pepper survived the Snap and told them Tony was on the spaceship, but everyone else is probably just presumed to have been snapped.

Tefral · 07-12-2018 5:08pm

My money is on Pepper showing up in this: http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Rescue_Armor_Model_1?fbclid=IwAR00Z8cv5x04hJW1q31groARonpI_1uxdGm412P6Edz47PXCbjG4RjQyO50

Sonics2k · 07-12-2018 6:09pm

Tefral wrote: »

My money is on Pepper showing up in this: http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Rescue_Armor_Model_1?fbclid=IwAR00Z8cv5x04hJW1q31groARonpI_1uxdGm412P6Edz47PXCbjG4RjQyO50

My honest hope is that Pepper is written out of the movie all together.

Arcsurvivor · 07-12-2018 6:33pm

Cap without his beard and the dust reforming in the title end was a nice touch.

JP Liz V1 · 07-12-2018 11:50pm

EoinMcLovin wrote: »

Releases on April 26th 2019

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hA6hldpSTF8

Has the release been brought forward?

EoinMcLovin · 08-12-2018 12:40am

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Has the release been brought forward?

Just in the US , it was always coming out here on April 26th

fitz · 08-12-2018 10:01am

pixelburp wrote: »

Trailer 1 is always the flavour, it's trailer 2 where you get the sauce. Which, depending on the studio, could mean a LOT of sauce (read, plot and spoilers).

Wouldn't it be great if this was only trailer they released? It's not like they really need to market this movie, everyone's going to go see it.

Frank O. Pinion · 08-12-2018 11:57am

The title of the film is "Avengers: Endgame", not "Avengers: End Game", as in this thread's title. "Endgame" is one word. Not a huge fan of these superhero films, but I did manage to catch that pretty huge blunder.

EagererBeaver · 08-12-2018 12:05pm

Frank O. Pinion wrote: »

The title of the film is "Avengers: Endgame", not "Avengers: End Game", as in this thread's title. "Endgame" is one word. Not a huge fan of these superhero films, but I did manage to catch that pretty huge blunder.

Thanks for that life altering insight, Frank.

Frank O. Pinion · 08-12-2018 12:21pm

EagererBeaver wrote: »

Thanks for that life altering insight, Frank.

Which is definitely what I was going for, "life altering insight". Yup. I don't believe one post in this thread will contain "life altering insight", but we'll see.

EoinMcLovin · 08-12-2018 12:25pm

Frank O. Pinion wrote: »

The title of the film is "Avengers: Endgame", not "Avengers: End Game", as in this thread's title. "Endgame" is one word. Not a huge fan of these superhero films, but I did manage to catch that pretty huge blunder.

Updated the thread title. Didn’t even notice that I had spelled it wrong.

SimonTemplar · 08-12-2018 8:15pm

I think there could be a mid-movie time jump. I'm probably wrong but here is my rationale:

- I doubt Tony will be hanging around on Titan with Nebula for long. So I assume he'll end up on that ship soon after the end of Infinity War

- When Scott Lang appears at the end of the trailer, Cap appears shocked and asks if this is old footage. This suggests that he was considered dead. It would take some time for a list of all the victims of the snap to be compiled, lets say six months. Nat's hair looks longer too.

So assuming Tony wasn't floating around in space or chilling on Titan for six months, this indicates some kind of mid-movie time jump.

I could be completely wrong though.

mrmorgan · 08-12-2018 11:14pm

anyone see this....

very interesting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chW0k_Dm89M

EagererBeaver · 09-12-2018 12:39am

Strange's connection to the Time stone and Cap looking at Peggy's photo screams time jump at me.

mrmorgan · 09-12-2018 1:14am

EagererBeaver wrote: »

Strange's connection to the Time stone and Cap looking at Peggy's photo screams time jump at me.

stranges connection in the trailer??

EagererBeaver · 09-12-2018 7:58am

mrmorgan wrote: »

EagererBeaver wrote: »

Strange's connection to the Time stone and Cap looking at Peggy's photo screams time jump at me.

stranges connection in the trailer??

No, in the first movie. "It was the only way"

AMKC · 09-12-2018 4:56pm

Why Bother going to see this. The last film was terrible, it was predictable and was way overhyped. We already know what happens in this one Iron Man dies in Peppers arms and half the Universe's population has been wiped out by the boring megalomaniac with the rings.
Certainly not on my list of film's to see next year. Going to skip it thanks but no thanks.

FunLover18 · 09-12-2018 5:03pm

AMKC wrote: »

Why Bother going to see this. The last film was terrible, it was predictable and was way overhyped. We already know what happens in this one Iron Man dies in Peppers arms and half the Universe's population has been wiped out by the boring megalomaniac with the rings.
Certainly not on my list of film's to see next year. Going to skip it thanks but no thanks.

Why bother posting in the thread if you're not even going to see it?

gmisk · 09-12-2018 5:10pm

Penn wrote: »

I think it actually makes sense. We saw on the screens Banner was looking at that they thought Scott had been killed in the Snap (aka
'The Decimation'
according to sources). The fact that now Scott has somehow returned gives them a bit of hope, a sign that maybe somehow, what happened can be reversed or people brought back. While the rest of the trailer is them beaten, lost, largely aimless... Scott somehow coming back (seemingly after a decent period of time if Cap's first reaction was to question whether it was an old recording) is the glimmer of hope that will give them something to fight for.

Admittedly, the tone of it is jarring considering the rest of the trailer, but I think it works.

I might be wrong here (only saw it once) but I thought at the end of ant man and the wasp

Scott didn't disappear at the thanos finger click, he was just trapped in the quantum realm as the 3 people with him operating machinery etc did turn to dust? The question isn't then how did he come back from being turned to dust..because he didn't

RobbingBandit · 09-12-2018 5:28pm

Looks amazing love Paul Rudd and Jeremy Renner damn someone freeze me put me in a coma I don't care just don't make me wait 5 months for this.

paulbok · 09-12-2018 7:09pm

fitz wrote: »

Wouldn't it be great if this was only trailer they released? It's not like they really need to market this movie, everyone's going to go see it.

Think there was around 12.5 minutes altogether from all the trailers for IW.
Mind you some of that was a mis-direct on the plot. Would expect the same again.
Most of that trailer would have to be early on in the movie, so as previously mentioned, the next trailer should have more reveals in it.
The second official trailer was in mid March so probably can expect the same time frame this time as well.

Tazzimus · 09-12-2018 11:10pm

AMKC wrote: »

Why Bother going to see this. The last film was terrible, it was predictable and was way overhyped. We already know what happens in this one Iron Man dies in Peppers arms and half the Universe's population has been wiped out by the boring megalomaniac with the rings.
Certainly not on my list of film's to see next year. Going to skip it thanks but no thanks.

Because not all of us thought it was ****e..

I can't wait, all aboard the hype train.

EagererBeaver · 09-12-2018 11:24pm

Tazzimus wrote: »

AMKC wrote: »

Why Bother going to see this. The last film was terrible, it was predictable and was way overhyped. We already know what happens in this one Iron Man dies in Peppers arms and half the Universe's population has been wiped out by the boring megalomaniac with the rings.
Certainly not on my list of film's to see next year. Going to skip it thanks but no thanks.

Because not all of us thought it was ****e..

I can't wait, all aboard the hype train.

Indeed. Choo ****ing choo!

GavRedKing · 10-12-2018 10:36am

AMKC wrote: »

Why Bother going to see this. The last film was terrible, it was predictable and was way overhyped. We already know what happens in this one Iron Man dies in Peppers arms and half the Universe's population has been wiped out by the boring megalomaniac with the rings.
Certainly not on my list of film's to see next year. Going to skip it thanks but no thanks.

I'm convinced, I think I'll skip it too. Thanks for opening my eyes.

Johnmb · 10-12-2018 11:41pm

gmisk wrote: »

I might be wrong here (only saw it once) but I thought at the end of ant man and the wasp
Scott didn't disappear at the thanos finger click, he was just trapped in the quantum realm as the 3 people with him operating machinery etc did turn to dust? The question isn't then how did he come back from being turned to dust..because he didn't

Yeah, I wonder are the people on the list they are viewing assumed dead because they are missing, or will they have worked out a formula because the snap wasn't as random as Thanos expected. If the former, then they shouldn't be that surprised at someone thought dead showing up, but if the latter then it means that

anything in the quantum realm was out of reach of the snap and the Infinity Stones

, which could give a

non-time travelling

way to deal with the outcome of the snap. Potential options to not be as obvious as it seems to be...

Bacchus · 11-12-2018 9:33am

Johnmb wrote: »

Yeah, I wonder are the people on the list they are viewing assumed dead because they are missing, or will they have worked out a formula because the snap wasn't as random as Thanos expected. If the former, then they shouldn't be that surprised at someone thought dead showing up, but if the latter then it means that
anything in the quantum realm was out of reach of the snap and the Infinity Stones
, which could give a
non-time travelling
way to deal with the outcome of the snap. Potential options to not be as obvious as it seems to be...

I think the simpler answer is the right one here. The assumed he died in the snap and were therefore surprised to see him knocking on the door.

Regarding the quantum realm theory, we have a sample size of one (Ant-Man) so there's not much to go on there.

abcabc123123 · 11-12-2018 1:07pm

SimonTemplar wrote: »

I think there could be a mid-movie time jump. I'm probably wrong but here is my rationale:

Various photos from the set suggest to me that there may be several. Of course they could just be filming flashbacks or BARFing... but I reckon we could see Ant-Man escaping the quantum realm via a time vortex and emerging in the future. His daughter fills him in on the history and then he starts jumping back to various periods to try to change it.

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Avengers: Endgame [ SPOILERS FROM POST 613 ]