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And since I have replied you the answer to your question...Cs encourages you to eat Low GI foods that keeps you full for longer. ie. porridge for breakfast etc....
Having just started and abandoned CS you certainly don't have porridge for breakfast, it's a shake for breakfast and lunch and a carb free dinner
The reality is that the shakes are 220 calories, for the same amount of calories you can have porridge for breakfast and a healthy lunch both of which will stand to you way better than the shakes and you don't feel crap after it like i did on the shakes. 0 -
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And since I have replied you the answer to your question...Cs encourages you to eat Low GI foods that keeps you full for longer. ie. porridge for breakfast etc....
Having just started and abandoned CS you certainly don't have porridge for breakfast, it's a shake for breakfast and lunch and a carb free dinner The reality is that the shakes are 220 calories, for the same amount of calories you can have porridge for breakfast and a healthy lunch both of which will stand to you way better than the shakes and you don't feel crap after it like i did on the shakes.
If you read from the beginning you would have seen the question that G'em had asked......and then you will see why I answered porridge as an example....0 -
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Well said....I couldn't have said it better myself. Ge'm take the hint..How to eat when you come off it....now let me think about that...I put food in my mouth...chew and swallow. Does that answer your question or should I research it a bit more....
Leah if you're not grown up enough to have a civil discussion I suggest you find somewhere else to post. Infracted and next out of line post will earn you a ban. And no, it doesn't answer anything given that the original request was:g'em wrote:write down what you think would be an appropriate days' eating.
@hunnymonster - thanks
The photo is still in the forum somewhere, here's probably not the place for it, and fwiw, your athletic achievements would put most people on the site (nevermind the forum) to shame!! The appreciation is mutual 
Fatloss08 I understand where you're coming from, I really do. When this forum was created as a by-product of Fitness there was always a fear that it would turn into a fad-diet forum where people would swap quick-fix tips and other remedies that only temporarily solve the problem without actually making any long-term positive impact, hence the reason why the Charter was put in place to say that these diets wouldn't be actively supported here. I stand by that Charter and when I see too much of this faddy diet shite going on I will wade in and remind people that these diets are not a good idea. The forum is about nutrition, your diet and essentially the impact it has on your health. There's LOTS of information available on these pages to help anyone start making positive changes to their diets, and WeightWatchers is gladly and actively supported and there are a lot of people here who are seeing great results - a quick glance in the Food Diaries will prove that.
As for hurting people, well you are - yourselves. Starvation diets like this only create more problems such as a dulled metabolism like hunnymonster has pointed out.
When you severely restrict your calories your body compensates for that by slowing down your metabolism to a crawl and it's quite difficult to recover from that. So once the shakes are finished and you start to eat 'normally' again, you are highly likely to gain weight again very fast as your metabolism is so sluggish that you can't cope with the extra calories.
Do you realise what you've just said? You've just perfectly parroted what I've been saying all along - why bother with Celebrity Slim shakes when more chicken and fish would give you the extra protein in your diet.Fatloss08 wrote:g'em ur a moderator and this is freedom of speech , we aint hurting anybody or slagging anybody so why come in and make people feel like crap for wanting to try something diff ???? after all its our lives not yours , u said u couldnt givea toss what people lost etc , then why u here ??? people were put on the planet to bodybuild ?? although its good
why do people take protein shakes ???? thats not natural , why not take alot more chicken or fish in ur diet to compensate ???
I'm not a bodybuilder, I'm a powerlifter - very different. I haven't drunk a protein shake in months. I don't have a six-pack anymore, but I'm a happy, comfortable, healthy weight. It doesn't come naturally to me, and I've battled an eating disorder for years. If someone wants to try and keep telling me how I haven't got a clue, then they're the one who's severely in the dark.
I know you're not having a go, and neither am I. All I'm doing is calling out CS for the lie that it is. I've been there, and I know that the structure that CS slim provides is so, so alluring. It takes the guess work out of eating. It takes the hassle out of planning meals. It promises quick weight loss, fast. It even provides recipes for the one solid meal you can have each day. It gives you a solid, workable timetable of eating that you can stick to and you don't need to second guess. Other people have used it and written to the manufacturer's to tell them how wonderful it is and how happy they are to have started using and and the manufacturer's, in turn, provide this feedback so that you, the customer, can see the success stories of others and be inspired.
You have no idea how much I "get this". And I know how much of a snotty cow people like me seemed when I was in that situation. But somewhere along the lines I had to break the cycle and start to learn how to cope with my weight on my own and without magic aids.
But what Celebrity Slim does not do is teach you how to eat properly once you're finished. How to cope with or avoid hunger pangs. How to curb the sweet tooth that appears after meals. How to stop snacking in front of the tv. How to learn how to say no to the fourth night on the beer with the lads which invariably includes the trip to a chipper at 2am. How to cope with binges. How to swap crap foods for healthier alternatives. How to read food information labels and know the difference between macronutrient properties. How to structure your eating habits so that you keep yourself metabolically primed. How to get out of the "quick-fix" mentality. How to plan meals.
For anyone who wishes to avail of it I have a proposal. Copy the below template and post in back up with your own answers, give me a few hours and I'll post you up some daily meal plans and food options. I'm not trying to criticise anyone here, I'm only criticising Celebrity Slim. I would have hoped that the pages of information that I provided in the stickies would have shown how much time and effort I've invested int eh forum and that I do, genuinely, care about the people who post here. If you're still in doubt though, fill this in and post in back up.
Height:
Weight:
Male/ Female:
Age:
Activity level per week:
1 = sedentary
2 = mildly active
3 = moderately active
4 = highly active
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Height: 5'7
Weight: 200 lbs
Sex: Female
Age: 20
Activity level per week: 2
1 = sedentary
2 = mildly active
3 = moderately active
4 = highly active
Particular Food Dislikes or Allergies: (Dislikes) Mushrooms,Tomatos, Beans/Peas, Sweetcorn, Lamb, Sometimes peppers although thats kinda changing now thats it i hope!!
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Thanks Bubble, I'll get onto that and have something back to you soon. I've edited the orignial template as I forgot to include sex/ age Can you let me know those whenever you see this? Thanks!
And those veg dislikes - do you really despise them or can you eat them when they're in stuff?0 -
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Height: 5'7
Weight: 200 lbs
Sex: Female
Age: 20
Activity level per week: 2
1 = sedentary
2 = mildly active
3 = moderately active
4 = highly active
Particular Food Dislikes or Allergies: (Dislikes) Mushrooms,Tomatos, Beans/Peas, Sweetcorn, Lamb, Sometimes peppers although thats kinda changing now thats it i hope!!
Cheers in advance...
Ok ive edited the above also. Ill tell u what so i really really really hate mushrooms, sweetcorn and peas but the rest are fine in things as u said!!
Thanks a mill
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For Bubble19:
Alrighty, so at your height/ weight you need around 2,500 cals per day to maintain the weight your at now. Around 1,700 of those cals are your absolute minimum requirements that your body needs to fuel its most basic functions - anything less than that and you're effectively starving yourself. So to lose weight a daily of intake of around 2,000 cals a day should be perfect. That's also a fairly substantial amount of food so you shouldn't feel excessively hungry.
I imagine one of the greatest parts of the allure of Celebrity Slim is hte structure of it, so lets do something similar here. 2,000clas per day very neatly divides into 5 meals of 400 calories each, or 3 x 500 cal main meals and two 250 cal snacks.
So that's teh first step - you know how big each meal should be. Now, what will those meals consist of?!
All your main meals meal are going to contain one of the following:
eggs, meat, fish, shellfish, lean dairy (natural yoghurt, cottage cheese, greek yoghurt, skimmed milk), unsalted nuts
All these foods have protein, and where weight loss is concerned protein is your BFF! Protein helps fill you up, keeps your metabolism primed (your body has to work hard to break it down) and it's very hard to turn protein into bodyfat.
You're also going to make sure you get a couple of daily servings of good fats:
nut and seed oils (flax, almond, walnut, olive, macadamia etc. - any and all of these are great. Vegetable and sunflower oil aren't good oils), whole nuts and seeds, avocadoes, oily fish.
Finally you're going to be taking in the vast majority of your carbs in the form of vegetables. You can have some fruit, but not more than two servings per day (simply because it tends to exacerbate a sweet tooth) and also two servings of wholemeal starchy carbs (basmati or brown rice, wholemeal bread, wholemeal pasta) or oats.
No chocolate, no sweets, no crisps, no pizza, no sugary cereals... but all is not lost. Once a week it's totally fine to let rip and have a cheat meal - eat whatever you like and have a big ol' desert with it too. It won't set you back, but it will keep you in tip top psychological shape and you won't mind restricting yourself for the rest of the week Just try and do some exercise that day.
I strongly, strongly, strongly urge you to get to know www.fitday.com (or another food log tool) as it's absolutely invaluable for keeping track of htings when you start out. After a while it'll all become second nature.
Breakfast
Personally my absolutely favourite breakfast is scrambled egg and bacon!
2 large eggs + 2 tsp oil (almond oil goes brilliantly with eggs, it has a lvoely gentle sweet taste) + 2 tbsp grated cheese for the scrambled eggs served with 2 slices of turkey bacon. That comes to 400 cals so it's a perfect choice for you too.
Alternatively you could go for porridge.
1/3 cup oats + 1/2 cup natural yoghurt + 1/2 cup blueberries + tbsp flaked almonds.
Deeee-lish and also 400 cals per serving
Snack wise during the morning you could havea serving of unsalted, unroasted nuts (a serving is 10-12 almonds, 8 walnuts, 6 brazil nuts, 15 pistachios) which is around 150 cals along with a yoghurt (be careful with yoghurts, they're often FULL of sugar. Glenisk organic yoghurts are among the best I've found, they do have sugar added but overall they're pretty fine) and a small handful of grapes or another piece of fruit.
Alternatively you could have a couple of Ryvita (or even better some vegetable sticks) and a couple of tbsp of hummous - again look for a high quantity of chickpeas in the ingredients, good hummous will have 70% + chickpeas.
How's this sounding so far? Try and go to www.fitday.com and see can you put together a couple of 500 calorie meals (hint: LOTS of vegetables, they're super low cal and you can eat huge portions of them!!)0 -
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In your case your maintenance needs would be 2100 cals per day, and 1700 calories per day will be enough to ensure slow, steady weight loss.Height: 5'4
Weight: 205lbs
Male/ Female:female
Age:20
Activity level per week:1
1 = sedentary
2 = mildly active
3 = moderately active
4 = highly active
Particular Food Dislikes or Allergies: I'm not keen on fish can do the usual cod or tuna or haddock or maybe salmon but anything fishy fishy is out!!
Don't stress if you only lose 1-2lb per week, slower is safer and healthier. Needless to say adding in some exercise 3-4 times a week will help a lot!
So again we could look at splitting your meals into calorie blocks
3 x 400 cal meals and two 250 cal snacks would be perfect. So the same suggestions would apply as for Bubble19.
Lunch/ Dinner options include:
Stir fry: 1 chicken breast + 1/2 tbsp sesame oil + unlimited amounts of carrots, broccoli, mushroom, onion, sprouts + soy sauce
Salmon parcels: place a fillet of salmon on a piece of tin foil and add lemon juice, soy sauce, pinch of salt and some pepper. Loosely wrap the tin foil around the salmon so that it creates a sealed pillow or parcel. Place in the oven at 180C for 15 mins. Serve with broccoli, mange tout, runner beans and half a cup of basmati rice. You can do this with any fish actually, just leave out the soy sauce and add a bit of fish seasoning.
Feta salad (inspired by Cafe Bar Deli - my favourite dish there!): two cups cooked broccoli + half a cup of chickpeas + half a cup of diced feta + a cup of sugar snap peas + plenty of rocket leaves + balsamic vinegar
As with the protein, fat and carb advice above, think about how you're going to structure the meals over the day.
e.g.
B: eggs & bacon: protein and fat
S: fruit and nuts: fats and carbs
L: chicken/ salmon salad with a side of wholemeal bread: protein and carbs
S: veg and hummous: carbs and protein
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Sounds really interesting i never though i could possibly have that much food and still loose weight!
Breakfast sounds great i like the thought of eating porridge on cold winter morning to heat and fill me up so thats great.
Glenisk organic yoghurts wouldn'y be my favourite yoghurts how would u feel about the Activia strawberry ones? i ab love them more than a piece of chocolate even! :rolleyes:
All sounds really well put together you put alot of thought into it. Just checked out the fitday website can't seem to figure it out to be honest, do u just look at ideas of do they give u recipes? Love fish im happy its on the menu is it okay to grill it? Think thats a meal in itself with a side salad!
Im a bit taken aback by the two sevings of fruit a day i thought it was a great thing to eat but i do see your point about its sweetness!! Is there anything sweet out there thats relatively good for you? How about Jelly?
One last question could you possibly recommend a few dinner's that would be filling and really tasty or even a decent website that gave me amount of cals in the dish and recipe? Would be a great help.
Thanks for doing this its much appreciated.
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I know, it's great isn't it! I think we have a tendency to forget that essentially our bodies are machines, and we need to give them enough fuel to work properly. When you take away too much fuel it just makes it inefficient. Your weight loss won't be as fast as on a fad diet, but it'll be be more consistent and will stay off (mostly becuase you're teaching yourself how to eat right and when you learn that, youre waaaay less likely to eat junk again and you'll automatically make the right choices!Sounds really interesting i never though i could possibly have that much food and still loose weight!
oh it's so yum - another favourite of mine is cooking the oats (two minutes in the microwave with double the volum of oats' worth of water seems to work for me i.e. half a cup of oats and one cup of water, bung in the microwave for two minutes at high power), then add a bit of milk, some raisins and some cinnamon - eat it with a big mug of tea by your sideBubble19 wrote:Breakfast sounds great i like the thought of eating porridge on cold winter morning to heat and fill me up so thats great.
just check the label - if it has sugar, dextrose, fructose or corn syrup as one of hte first three ingredients it'll be v. high in sugar. But it's still better than eating chocolate so don't worry about it!Bubble19 wrote:Glenisk organic yoghurts wouldn'y be my favourite yoghurts how would u feel about the Activia strawberry ones? i ab love them more than a piece of chocolate even! :rolleyes:
You have to input the foods one by one. So for each of these posts for example I've been inputting the foods one by one and then it adds up all the calories and grams of fat/ protein/ carbs for you. It even tells you what your % breakdown is for each one each day and you can keep a daily food log. Each day is a new page of food. It takes some getting used to but it's worth it.Bubble19 wrote:Just checked out the fitday website can't seem to figure it out to be honest, do u just look at ideas of do they give u recipes?
Brilliant way to eat it! Grilling is soooper healthy. Schwartz do a lovely fish seasoning too, you buy it in a jar alongside all the other herbs and spices, and I love it on white fish especially.Bubble19 wrote:Love fish im happy its on the menu is it okay to grill it? Think thats a meal in itself with a side salad!
I know, it's a bit disheartening. Fruit is still really good for you, just not too much. Veg is better (of course :rolleyes::p). There's also new research to show that the fructose (sugar) in fruit is very easily turned to fat so and excess of fruit is no different to having too many sweets in your diet.Bubble19 wrote:Im a bit taken aback by the two sevings of fruit a day i thought it was a great thing to eat but i do see your point about its sweetness!!
Good thinking Batman- sugar-free jelly is a *great* treat to have every so often. Every few weeks I'll make myself some sugar free jelly and it last for a few days, it's perfect for curing a sweet craving a few spoons (a small bowlful) is enough to curb it without ruining your efforts.Bubble19 wrote:Is there anything sweet out there thats relatively good for you? How about Jelly?
I'm actually crap at recipesBubble19 wrote:One last question could you possibly recommend a few dinner's that would be filling and really tasty or even a decent website that gave me amount of cals in the dish and recipe? Would be a great help. But the one thing I do is when I'm planning dinner, I start with the meat and I work from there. I'll think of a meat I want to eat and tehn add the veg accordingly. You can also look at recipes of various websites and manually work out what their calorie content is - I know, I know, that sounds like such a pain but it's a great way to get used to how many calories are in different foods. If you have to cut things out of the recipe though always start by cutting down/ out the starchy carbs - rice, pasta, potatoes etc. Keep the veg and meat where possible.
No bodger, glad to help. Why don't you search for a recipe you think you mgiht like and see can you figure out what the cal content is?Bubble19 wrote:Thanks for doing this its much appreciated.
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