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2020 US Presidential Election (aka: The Trump Coronation)

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  • Registered Users Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Bernie is the only interesting democrat candidate. the rest are a collective snoozefest.


  • Registered Users Posts: 39,466 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    I was talking about Joe Biden. How's it what Trump does a defense of that?

    'But Trump, but Trump..' is not an argument and referring to over 60 million people as "dribblers" is not a good look.

    Because the title of the Thread is the "The Trump Coronation" and if you are going to label people "charlatans" surely the "dotard" who has told nearly 16,000 lies since he took office is relevant to the thread.

    Also this thread is not your twitter feed, you will have to expect opinion not akin to Fox News or Breitbart.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,423 ✭✭✭weisses


    The US is a corrupt, morally bankrupt country and has the leader it deserves ....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,524 ✭✭✭Gynoid


    Boggles wrote: »
    ... the millions of dribblers ....

    You should post that on to Hillary. She loves a nice snappy phrase to describe the plebeians.


  • Registered Users Posts: 39,466 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    notobtuse wrote: »
    I walk the walk. I donate to some politicians I endorse (directly, not the party or PAC’s) and campaign for some (but rarely), my oldest daughter is a politician and I beat the path and campaign for her, I am sending my youngest to the most politically active university in the US located in Washington, DC as she wishes to become a lawyer, then judge, then federal politician... and I vote in every election.

    You?

    Why are you "campaigning" constantly on an Irish platform, where virtually no one can vote in any American election?

    It's beyond bizarre.

    Would be like me joining boards.us and filing the threads with shíté about Leo or Micheál.

    I imagine I would be rightly written off as the loon I'd appear to be.

    I'll tell you a secret, Irish people don't give a flying fúck about America.

    They see it as the very creepy uncle, but they tolerate him because he is rich.

    It's that simple.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    Boggles wrote: »
    Why are you "campaigning" constantly on an Irish platform, where virtually no one can vote in any American election?

    It's beyond bizarre.

    Would be like me joining boards.us and filing the threads with shíté about Leo or Micheál.

    I imagine I would be rightly written off as the loon I'd appear to be.

    I'll tell you a secret, Irish people don't give a flying fúck about America.

    They see it as the very creepy uncle, but they tolerate him because he is rich.

    It's that simple.
    Oh, come on... you're not a loon. Passionately misguided in US politics, maybe, but not a loon.

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    So, which democrat won the first primary in Iowa? ;)

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,727 ✭✭✭ebbsy


    notobtuse wrote: »
    So, which democrat won the first primary in Iowa? ;)


    Talk about handing the initiative to Trump. And he is on the other side...….


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    ebbsy wrote: »
    Talk about handing the initiative to Trump. And he is on the other side...….
    I don’t think the DNC will let Iowa be the first primary going forward after that debacle. (I hear the app that caused most of the problems was created by people who worked for the Hillary campaign back in 2016). Between the impeachment nonsense and a bad start out of the gate on the democrats primaries, there’s always a hope for a Hail Mary in November, I guess.

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



  • Registered Users Posts: 39,466 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    notobtuse wrote: »
    Oh, come on... you're not a loon. Passionately misguided in US politics, maybe, but not a loon.

    Can you answer the question I asked you please?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    Boggles wrote: »
    Can you answer the question I asked you please?
    Just partaking in the Current Affairs/IMO discussions regarding US Politics. And just offering some opposing views to the groupthink that abounds here. Is there some law against it?

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    Pelosi and Schiff’s impeachment gambit may be the biggest backfire in political history. The newest Gallup poll has Trump's job approval up to 49%, a new all-time high, and +4 when compared to Obama at the same point in their first terms. Also, the same approval rating as GWBush at this time in his first term. Both won reelection.

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



  • Registered Users Posts: 39,466 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    notobtuse wrote: »
    Just partaking in the Current Affairs/IMO discussions regarding US Politics. And just offering some opposing views to the groupthink that abounds here. Is there some law against it?

    No. The point remains though, you are wasting your time as an active campaigner here.

    All you are getting is ridiculed - which by any metric is justified TBF.

    But each to their own. Best of luck.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    Boggles wrote: »
    No. The point remains though, you are wasting your time as an active campaigner here.

    All you are getting is ridiculed - which by any metric is justified TBF.

    But each to their own. Best of luck.
    Ridiculed for not believing radical leftism (by US standards, anyway) overtaking the Democratic party is the greatest thing to happen to the US in it's history? Well, knock me over with a feather.

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



  • Registered Users Posts: 39,466 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    notobtuse wrote: »
    Ridiculed for not believing radical leftism (by US standards, anyway) overtaking the Democratic party is the greatest thing to happen to the US in it's history? Well, knock me over with a feather.

    I rest my case.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    Boggles wrote: »
    you will have to expect opinion not akin to Fox News or Breitbart.

    That's your defense for calling millions of people "dribblers" ??

    I'll take it so that you can't defend it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    Boggles wrote: »
    I rest my case.
    That you can't fathom context?

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



  • Registered Users Posts: 39,466 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    That's your defense for calling millions of people "dribblers" ??

    I'll take it so that you can't defend it.

    Why would I feel the need to defend it? :confused:
    notobtuse wrote: »
    That you can't fathom context?

    I have no idea what context has to do with it, but the average American Trump cheer leader is hardly complex not much to fathom at all.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    Boggles wrote: »
    I have no idea what context has to do with it, but the average American Trump cheer leader is hardly complex not much to fathom at all.
    I see it went WAAAY above your head.

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    Elizabeth Warren... typical Democratic presidential candidate... DO AS I SAY, NOT AS I DO.

    Her presidential campaign website includes support for the Green New Deal and the Blue New Deal that wants to eliminate carbon output and save the oceans.

    So Big Chief Hypocrite is caught getting off a private chartered jet and sees a camera. She then uses an aid as a human shield so the camera can't see her.

    Does she think the voters are plain stupid or that going green is merely for the unwashed masses?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6GaL6kYiL8

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



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  • Registered Users Posts: 829 ✭✭✭Ronaldinho


    Loving the new thread title


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    Primaries should only involve voters from the candidate’s party. It’s no secret Bernie Sanders would be the candidate most easily trounced by Donald Trump. Coming up soon is the South Carolina primary, and the early primaries carry a lot of weight to candidates sticking around. A new Operation Chaos seems to be taking place in SC (it was Democrats who started the gimmick). With Trump guaranteed to be the Republican candidate, Republicans plan to ask their voters to show up for the state’s open primary and vote for Bernie Sanders. Underhanded, yes, but rules are rules. Change the rules or accept the consequences.

    The gimmick just worked in Germany's election.

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    Biden keeps slipping in the polls. Absolutely no surprise to me. Most people have been familiar with him over the last 10 years, or so. I’ve had to endure his antics for decades. The guy is delusional and has always thought he deserved to become president. All his presidential runs ended in disaster and he has been on the wrong side of history his entire life. There was never any reason for Trump to enlist Ukraine in order to hurt Biden because he was considered to be a serious candidate. Biden would, as he always has, destroy his own chances. Trump simply wanted to get to the bottom of corruption by a US elected official, which is his job.

    Biden is just plain dumb. But don’t take my word for it, take this guys...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4J9db3V8Ag

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



  • Registered Users Posts: 39,466 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    notobtuse wrote: »
    There was never any reason for Trump to enlist Ukraine in order to hurt Biden because he was considered to be a serious candidate. Biden would, as he always has, destroy his own chances. Trump simply wanted to get to the bottom of corruption by a US elected official, which is his job.

    There is literally no one buying that bullshít anymore, not even Republicans.

    Try keep up.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,875 ✭✭✭Edgware


    Boggles wrote: »
    There is literally no one buying that bullshít anymore, not even Republicans.

    Try keep up.
    Ya
    Drain the swamp. Lock her up!


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    Joe Biden might be looking at a fifth place finish in the New Hampshire primary… on the heals of a fourth place showing in Iowa. Also, watching the democratic debate Friday evening it looks like Joe is tired and his heart isn’t in it anymore. And if he starts bleeding money how long does he stay in? If Joe goes, that leaves Buttigieg, Sanders, Warren, a rising Klobuchar, and Bloomber’s money.

    I doubt any one of them will get the 1,990 delegates needed to clinch the party’s presidential nomination. That then leads to a brokered convention where the super delegates probably get to pick the candidate. They won’t go for the socialist Sanders, and socialist-lite Warren in unelectable. I highly doubt they would give it to Mayor Howdy Doody or Klobuchar because she doesn’t have national recognition. So who would the suberdelegates give it to? Hillary Clinton is the first one to come to mind and she did have the election of 2016 stolen from her, if you haven't heard. There’s Mike Bloomberg, who if nominated, would cause a civil war because he is merely buying the nomination with his billions of dollars (But Bloomberg might make sense in the short term if the superdelegates admit there is no way to win the White House this election. Bloomberg has committed to spending $4 or $5 billion of his own money, and not just for his own campaign, but for Democrats everywhere. Every superdelegate at the convention might just think Bloomberg will spends millions in support of each of their districts if they vote for him). Or will the DNC completely shock everyone and nominate their new hero… Mitt Romney -- who hates Orange Man Bad even more than they do?

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    After the New Hampshire primary results came in Michael Bennet and Andrew Yang apparently remembered the first rule of holes (stop digging) and dropped out. Media also reported that Tom Steyer had dropped out but apparently he decided he still has lots of money to burn and was staying in the race.

    Joe Biden got another gut-punch and high-tailed it out of Dodge. With such pitiful showings in the first two primaries how much longer can he stay in the race? His credibility as a viable candidate and his donations are drying up.

    That leaves Bernie Sanders, Pete Buttigieg, a rising but broke Amy Klobuchar and a failing-fast Elizabeth Warren with any chance.

    I think you can scratch Klobuchar and Warren from having any chance at this point and I don’t see Mayor Howdy Doody surviving after Super Tuesday. That leaves Democratic-Socialist Bernie Sanders. (Why is it if you put the term “Democratic” in front of something the democrat loyalists eat it up? I think if they renamed the WuFlu to the Democratic-Coronavirus the faithful would be rushing out to catch it). If Sanders becomes the DNC’s candidate to run against Trump then Russia has won the Cold War.

    But the DNC, Democratic establishment, and their wealthy mega-donors who want no part of Sanders, are afraid they’re already out of options to take Sanders down by legitimate means. Does that lead to DNC last-minute convention shenanigans to bestow the nomination on a corrupt Hillary Clinton or Mike Bloomberg who is trying to buy the election with his billions?

    One thing interesting I’ve taken notice to this election is a glaring difference in Bernie Sanders from 2016 to 2020. Back in 2016 he was campaigning on the same platitudes as now only then he was gonna make millionaires and billionaires pay for all the free stuff he was promising. But after that election he capitalized (pun intended) on his notoriety and made a couple million dollars. Now this election its just billionaires according to him who are going to foot the bill. I guess like every other socialist politician he only wants other people to pay for his fantasies.

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,098 ✭✭✭MonkeyTennis


    so any thoughts on William Barr today lads ? Or is this all perfectly normal too ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    so any thoughts on William Barr today lads ? Or is this all perfectly normal too ?
    Is he running for president now, too?

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



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  • Registered Users Posts: 39,466 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    so any thoughts on William Barr today lads ? Or is this all perfectly normal too ?

    It's the new normal, hope they enjoy it.

    Brought to you by the party of law and order.

    :)


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