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Gangland Shootings part 3 - Read OP before posting - updated 27/12/23

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  • #8762
    Don Logan
    Registered Users Posts: 248 ✭✭Don Logan


    ballsdeep69 wrote: »
    I’m not sayin he’s gay but he was seen doing lines of poppers in the George, and also was heard saying if you stick the smell I will stick the pain.

    “Poppers and weird sex”


  • #8763
    Haladmirer
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 601 ✭✭✭Haladmirer


    Don Logan wrote: »
    “Poppers and weird sex”

    Sounds good to me
    Your place or mine?


  • #8764
    Ciro Di Marzio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 387 ✭✭Ciro Di Marzio


    NewMan1982 wrote: »
    Agreed the papers made out they were all pals but more or less none of the murders were related.

    Little and Sanambars murders were about as related as could be. RR meant to be behind JD’s whacking. There a fella from Tallaght charged with it.


  • #8765
    Ciro Di Marzio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 387 ✭✭Ciro Di Marzio


    The whole thing is still a bit unclear but for sure Flashys crew does deal with that crew over in Coolock as mentioned. Clayo hung around with Davis and Little. They all were part of an extended circle in Coolock. Parker also dealt and associated with both the Finglas and Coolock groups.

    Where the confusion comes in is when it comes to CS and Sanambar. It is alleged that Flashy was involved in Parker hit, but that he was not on board with CS going rogue and doing the Little hit.

    The papers kept suggesting that all men were both associates/friends of Flashy but also that he was linked to the murders. This obviously confused a lot of people.

    After Little got done, CL is meant to be one of the 3 people who hit Sanambar at the wake in revenge.

    JD still involved in dealing and gang crime with that overall crew in Coolock so maybe it just happened to be coincidence he was done a day or so later.

    But then again, maybe not ...


  • #8766
    MickyPearse
    Registered Users Posts: 300 ✭✭MickyPearse


    Ciro Di Marzio wrote: »
    The whole thing is still a bit unclear but for sure Flashys crew does deal with that crew over in Coolock as mentioned. Clayo hung around with Davis and Little. They all were part of an extended circle in Coolock. Parker also dealt and associated with both the Finglas and Coolock groups.

    Where the confusion comes in is when it comes to CS and Sanambar. It is alleged that Flashy was involved in Parker hit, but that he was not on board with CS going rogue and doing the Little hit.

    The papers kept suggesting that all men were both associates/friends of Flashy but also that he was linked to the murders. This obviously confused a lot of people.

    After Little got done, CL is meant to be one of the 3 people who hit Sanambar at the wake in revenge.

    JD still involved in dealing and gang crime with that overall crew in Coolock so maybe it just happened to be coincidence he was done a day or so later.

    But then again, maybe not ...

    I think you are right about CS and the Iranian going rogue. Maybe they were behind the Parker hit and feared Little would retaliate. Don't think flashy gave the go ahead on Little and thats why he was happy to get CL and them to take out sanambar. CS knew he was in trouble then and that would explain his behavior on social media soon after.

    The Jordan Davis murder made the whole episode more confusing but as posted above it sounds like it was unrelated


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  • #8767
    Ck988
    Registered Users Posts: 23 ✭Ck988


    I saw Biggie had Clayo on his story a few weeks back so obviously all seem to know each other and hang around a bit


  • #8768
    Haladmirer
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 601 ✭✭✭Haladmirer


    Ciro Di Marzio wrote: »
    The whole thing is still a bit unclear but for sure Flashys crew does deal with that crew over in Coolock as mentioned. Clayo hung around with Davis and Little. They all were part of an extended circle in Coolock. Parker also dealt and associated with both the Finglas and Coolock groups.

    Where the confusion comes in is when it comes to CS and Sanambar. It is alleged that Flashy was involved in Parker hit, but that he was not on board with CS going rogue and doing the Little hit.

    The papers kept suggesting that all men were both associates/friends of Flashy but also that he was linked to the murders. This obviously confused a lot of people.

    After Little got done, CL is meant to be one of the 3 people who hit Sanambar at the wake in revenge.

    JD still involved in dealing and gang crime with that overall crew in Coolock so maybe it just happened to be coincidence he was done a day or so later.

    But then again, maybe not ...
    That's it in a nutshell.
    Davis was rr
    If its true like we think flashy is a sick bastard
    Anyone that goes to a funeral and mixes with mourning relatives of a person you were behind murdering is sick as ****.no doubt


  • #8769
    Ciro Di Marzio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 387 ✭✭Ciro Di Marzio


    Ck988 wrote: »
    I saw Biggie had Clayo on his story a few weeks back so obviously all seem to know each other and hang around a bit

    A lot of them network and deal together broadly speaking. This is why the media calls them the ‘young Flashys’ and terms like that. They are basically a loose syndicate made up of sub groups from diff areas, but more organized as they go up the chain.

    The young lads in my area deal and pal around with them too, wear the brands and the rolex’s etc., use Snapchat for dealing.

    If the boys run out of Charlie here or can’t get hooked up by the bigger boys in this area then they can, and do source it in other areas...particularly Clondalkin, Finglas and Coolock.


  • #8770
    Ck988
    Registered Users Posts: 23 ✭Ck988


    How big was Little in the scheme of things would he have been below flashy or separate to him, thought I read somewhere he might have got done for lost drugs


  • #8771
    MelvinWagstaff
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 192 ✭✭MelvinWagstaff


    Haladmirer wrote: »
    Anyone that goes to a funeral and mixes with mourning relatives of a person you were behind murdering is sick as ****.no doubt

    It's happened numerous times over the years


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  • #8772
    UUJ_Lad
    Registered Users Posts: 66 ✭✭UUJ_Lad


    MelvinWagstaff wrote: »
    It's happened numerous times over the years

    Also looks good for deniability.


  • #8773
    Righteouswrong
    Registered Users Posts: 457 ✭✭Righteouswrong


    Parker “misplaced” drugs from Finglas on tick and was refusing to pay the debt


  • #8774
    bigsuge1
    Registered Users Posts: 162 ✭✭bigsuge1


    Righteouswrong wrote: »
    Parker “misplaced” drugs from Finglas on tick and was refusing to pay the debt

    I remember reading it may have been from a traveler gang and CP was named and supposed to have got flashy to set him up. Paper talk of course.


  • #8775
    GerryFog
    Registered Users Posts: 69 ✭✭GerryFog


    Righteouswrong wrote: »
    Parker “misplaced” drugs from Finglas on tick and was refusing to pay the debt

    This is it.

    Then after killing Parker they went for Little and Davis for the debt and they refused to pay so they killed them.

    Sanibar was either the trigger man or he knew where Parker had stashed his drugs and took them. Or maybe the same gang that killed Parker, Davis and Little had moved onto Sanibar for the debt owed by Parker.


  • #8776
    Eyes1
    Registered Users Posts: 560 ✭✭✭Eyes1


    GerryFog wrote: »
    This is it.

    Then after killing Parker they went for Little and Davis for the debt and they refused to pay so they killed them.

    Sanibar was either the trigger man or he knew where Parker had stashed his drugs and took them. Or maybe the same gang that killed Parker, Davis and Little had moved onto Sanibar for the debt owed by Parker.

    Who’s ‘they’ Gerry?

    And why would they go after Davis and Little & possibly Sanambar for the debt? Were these lot working together moving bits of work about?

    Very complex bunch of killings.


  • #8777
    beerbellybob
    Registered Users Posts: 117 ✭✭beerbellybob


    MickyPearse wrote: »
    I guess the main theory so is that Little was unhappy with what happened to Parker so they took him out too. Then the little gang got CL1 and them kids to take out the iranian. Strange that they allowed it to happen on their own front door at Sean Little's wake. Still alot doesn't add up.

    WHO IS "THEY"?


  • #8778
    MelvinWagstaff
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 192 ✭✭MelvinWagstaff


    GerryFog wrote: »
    This is it.

    Then after killing Parker they went for Little and Davis for the debt and they refused to pay so they killed them.

    Sanibar was either the trigger man or he knew where Parker had stashed his drugs and took them. Or maybe the same gang that killed Parker, Davis and Little had moved onto Sanibar for the debt owed by Parker.

    Fiction


  • #8779
    ElZee
    Registered Users Posts: 60 ✭✭ElZee


    Parker - Refusing to pay drug debt

    Little - unhappy about parker so he was whacked

    Sambar - retaliation for little

    Davis - RR ordered it, unlrelated to the other killings


  • #8780
    MelvinWagstaff
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 192 ✭✭MelvinWagstaff


    MMAbhoy wrote: »
    Men, how many grams are in a 50 bag of weed nowadays ? Just told it was 2 grams in a 50 bag. Surely not ?

    In different parts of Ireland that were struck with drought during this pandemic two grams was the going rate.
    MrFlashy92 wrote: »
    Depends where you are, 3.5-4 was standard in a lot of Dublin before this pandemic

    Before this pandemic most of the snapchat accounts based in the capital were doing five gram 50bags aswell as some other great deals.


  • #8781
    GerryFog
    Registered Users Posts: 69 ✭✭GerryFog


    MelvinWagstaff wrote: »
    Fiction

    Makes the most sense to me. I think Parker was 100% killed because of his debt and Little was killed because of his association to Parker.

    Usually if someone owes a huge debt and something happens to them then the creditors will go to whoever is close to them and who can pay. In this case after killing Parker they would have gone to Little to recoup the debt.

    Now where Davis and Sani come into it is blurred but if they are part of the same crew then I think the most likely scenario is they moved on to the others for the debt as they were all a tight knit group.

    As for the 'who is they'? Considering its a traveler group I am assuming it would be CP's crowd. That is just guesswork though.


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  • #8782
    Thesiger
    Registered Users Posts: 443 ✭✭Thesiger


    GerryFog wrote: »
    Makes the most sense to me. I think Parker was 100% killed because of his debt and Little was killed because of his association to Parker.

    Usually if someone owes a huge debt and something happens to them then the creditors will go to whoever is close to them and who can pay. In this case after killing Parker they would have gone to Little to recoup the debt.

    Now where Davis and Sani come into it is blurred but if they are part of the same crew then I think the most likely scenario is they moved on to the others for the debt as they were all a tight knit group.

    As for the 'who is they'? Considering its a traveler group I am assuming it would be CP's crowd. That is just guesswork though.

    Been said a thousand times already but it seems clear that Davis killing was unrelated. We have the name of the likely shooter and know about his relationship with the sister of a well-known Coolock gangster who has his own operation.


  • #8783
    Ciro Di Marzio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 387 ✭✭Ciro Di Marzio


    GerryFog wrote: »
    This is it.

    Then after killing Parker they went for Little and Davis for the debt and they refused to pay so they killed them.

    Sanibar was either the trigger man or he knew where Parker had stashed his drugs and took them. Or maybe the same gang that killed Parker, Davis and Little had moved onto Sanibar for the debt owed by Parker.

    I don’t think that would be fully right. It wasn’t one outright debt. SL and JD who were murdered would have been sourcing, shifting and owing debts from multiple sources. I mean just look in Coolock alone higher up the ladder you have Big and associates, Ru, Norton’s, among others. Then look at the network of lower levels that directly link across North Dublin suburbs and even onto north county Dublin and into Drogheda etc.

    Boylan’s murder was linked to the N’s over a debt too if I’m not mistaken. I think the angle on Parker owing an original debt is true. This debt was said to be to Flash or associates of Flash. So it could have been to CS and others as Flashys finglas gang is not easily nailed down as just GW himself and people following his orders. Little supposedly had mouthed that he was pissed about ZT hit and was going to retaliate. With the crew around him in Coolock and his family connections some might see that he had growing means to carry our these threats. CS and SH then seem to be the standout suspects for Littles killing. So take from that what you will. Coolock boys then took out SH either in revenge or also maybe they were led to do so from higher up’s to clear SH out of the picture. Remember these boys are still linked to Big, Flash in Finglas and the some of other major dealers and figures in Coolock. So we don’t know what motives may lie up the chain to clear out any lower levels, be it from unpaid debts, pissing someone off or being a liability.

    Again JD whacking could have been done to tie up all loose ends within the group and relating to the other incidents, but I think it seems more likely it was something drug/debt related internal to Coolock.


  • #8784
    MelvinWagstaff
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 192 ✭✭MelvinWagstaff


    GerryFog wrote: »
    Makes the most sense to me. I think Parker was 100% killed because of his debt and Little was killed because of his association to Parker.

    Usually if someone owes a huge debt and something happens to them then the creditors will go to whoever is close to them and who can pay. In this case after killing Parker they would have gone to Little to recoup the debt.

    Now where Davis and Sani come into it is blurred but if they are part of the same crew then I think the most likely scenario is they moved on to the others for the debt as they were all a tight knit group.

    As for the 'who is they'? Considering its a traveler group I am assuming it would be CP's crowd. That is just guesswork though.

    Yes your whole post is guesswork. You didn't mention that this was your theory in your original post you put it as if it was fact and not fiction.


  • #8785
    Thesiger
    Registered Users Posts: 443 ✭✭Thesiger


    Also worth remembering this one-post wonder in relation to Parker - https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin//showpost.php?p=112539731&postcount=8787


  • #8786
    Ciro Di Marzio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 387 ✭✭Ciro Di Marzio


    Thesiger wrote: »
    Also worth remembering this one-post wonder in relation to Parker - https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin//showpost.php?p=112539731&postcount=8787

    That was a big line at the time, that the 3 boys ZP, SL and JD has fallen out with the Zombie ...and he had put contracts out on them...that theory seemed to drop off over time though


  • #8787
    Thesiger
    Registered Users Posts: 443 ✭✭Thesiger


    Ciro Di Marzio wrote: »
    That was a big line at the time, that the 3 boys ZP, SL and JD has fallen out with the Zombie ...and he had put contracts out on them...that theory seemed to drop off over time though

    What about the Baldoyle ex-soldier though? We don’t see him mentioned anywhere, then in pops this random poster who name-drops him and never returns to Boards. Which kind of makes me think there might be something to it.


  • #8788
    bigsuge1
    Registered Users Posts: 162 ✭✭bigsuge1


    CL1 and co were quick to wack Sanimbar over Little so why didn’t they get RR for setting up Davis?

    Davis and CL1 were very close, way closer than he would have been with Little. There’s multiple pictures of them together on Facebook going back years.

    Where does RR fit into the scene?


  • #8789
    Thesiger
    Registered Users Posts: 443 ✭✭Thesiger


    bigsuge1 wrote: »
    Where does RR fit into the scene?

    He has his own operation around Coolock and Donaghmede working with a few guys who mostly never get mentioned on here. The one exception being the Budweiser Weetabix clown.

    He was mates with Davis too.


  • #8790
    420munky
    Registered Users Posts: 3 ✭420munky


    MMAbhoy wrote: »
    Men, how many grams are in a 50 bag of weed nowadays ? Just told it was 2 grams in a 50 bag. Surely not ?
    It depends where your at and what ur getting , most 50 chats 3g maybe 3.5g , then u have a drought like now and u can charge what you can get and give what ya want ,,


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  • #8791
    Ciro Di Marzio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 387 ✭✭Ciro Di Marzio


    bigsuge1 wrote: »
    CL1 and co were quick to wack Sanimbar over Little so why didn’t they get RR for setting up Davis?

    Davis and CL1 were very close, way closer than he would have been with Little. There’s multiple pictures of them together on Facebook going back years.

    Where does RR fit into the scene?

    Sanambar is an outsider by nature and no one was going to mourn him as he was in the cross hairs for a nasty double cross on Little at the time. RR in contrast would be a much more dangerous hit for the lads(Little fam/friends/Moatview boys) and there would be retaliation. Plus there is a still a pecking order that usually is followed regarding this type of stuff. RR Is a more senior figure than JD, with connections to other more senior figures in the area.

    Look into what Sanambar was upto in the year or so before the murder. Easy to see why there may have been plenty of people happy to see him hit, not just over
    SL hit.Think about other trigger jobs CL was involved in at the time.


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