Tokyo 2020 Qualifying. Athletes to watch

Ceepo · 26-06-2020 2:32pm

From the AIMS website.

Olympic Marathon qualification
Tue, 16 Jun 2020 11:09:00 +0000

World Athletics has lifted the limitation of 80 runners in the Olympic Marathon fields.

Any athlete who has met the qualifying times of 2:11:30 (men) or 2:29:30 (women) is eligible for selection for their national teams (of 3 male and 3 female runners). Qualification through the world rankings will not be possible.

Before the coronavirus pandemic led to the suspension of the qualifying period 90 runners had qualified, with qualifications set to resume on 1 December and continue until 31 May 2021.

“There is no longer a limit of 80 athletes in the marathon,” said Jakob Larsen, the new Competitions Director at World Athletics. “At the same time, we are assuming that we will still meet the total number of athletes who can start in athletics at the Olympics.” The IOC has specified a maximum of 1900 starting positions for athletics..

I'm not sure where that will leave Scullion etc who haven't yet ran QT.
Anyone hazard a guess.

26-06-2020 3:00pm

That's a weird news piece. Despite it apparently being released 10 days ago, there only two google hits on a search for "There is no longer a limit of 80 athletes in the marathon", and one of them is just a letsrun thread linking to the original on AIMS. Nothing on World Athletics either. At best, I'd say it's some misinterpretation of an interview where possible approaches WA are considering were discussed. Aside from anything else, it doesn't even mention the third method of qualification: top 10 in a Gold Label event

Ceepo · 26-06-2020 4:33pm

28064212 wrote: »

That's a weird news piece. Despite it apparently being released 10 days ago, there only two google hits on a search for "There is no longer a limit of 80 athletes in the marathon", and one of them is just a letsrun thread linking to the original on AIMS. Nothing on World Athletics either. At best, I'd say it's some misinterpretation of an interview where possible approaches WA are considering were discussed. Aside from anything else, it doesn't even mention the third method of qualification: top 10 in a Gold Label event

Also thought it was a bit weird. As I hadn't heard anything about it before.
I seen it in LR but didn't want to link from there.

average_runner · 27-06-2020 8:23am

Ceepo wrote: »

From the AIMS website.

Olympic Marathon qualification
Tue, 16 Jun 2020 11:09:00 +0000

World Athletics has lifted the limitation of 80 runners in the Olympic Marathon fields.

Any athlete who has met the qualifying times of 2:11:30 (men) or 2:29:30 (women) is eligible for selection for their national teams (of 3 male and 3 female runners). Qualification through the world rankings will not be possible.

Before the coronavirus pandemic led to the suspension of the qualifying period 90 runners had qualified, with qualifications set to resume on 1 December and continue until 31 May 2021.

“There is no longer a limit of 80 athletes in the marathon,” said Jakob Larsen, the new Competitions Director at World Athletics. “At the same time, we are assuming that we will still meet the total number of athletes who can start in athletics at the Olympics.” The IOC has specified a maximum of 1900 starting positions for athletics..

I'm not sure where that will leave Scullion etc who haven't yet ran QT.
Anyone hazard a guess.

Be pretty crap to change it massively now.

healy1835 · 12-09-2020 9:35am

61:10ish from Scullion in Larne this morning. Some running. Seaward around 63 mins.

djemba djemba · 12-09-2020 12:27pm

healy1835 wrote: »

61:10ish from Scullion in Larne this morning. Some running. Seaward around 63 mins.

Didn't see it all but at what stage did farrah drop him.

Not quite an athlete to watch for Tokyo, but what about Tommy Hughes setting a world record for over 60's this morning too.

healy1835 · 12-09-2020 12:30pm

djemba djemba wrote: »

Didn't see it all but at what stage did farrah drop him.

Not quite an athlete to watch for Tokyo, but what about Tommy Hughes setting a world record for over 60's this morning too.

Farah & Scott dropped SS and Ben Connor with about 2 miles to go, Farah dropped the hammer then with about a km to go. Looked like a great course, but very exposed to the elements if the weather's not great.

jamule · 12-09-2020 2:54pm

3min pb for scullion, He will be giving out now he didn't beat Craggs record but thats a good thing.

average_runner · 13-09-2020 8:24am

jamule wrote: »

3min pb for scullion, He will be giving out now he didn't beat Craggs record but thats a good thing.

Scullion could run a big time in London

[Deleted User] · 13-09-2020 6:31pm

average_runner wrote: »

Scullion could run a big time in London

Training with Mo must be bringing him on.

healy1835 · 13-09-2020 6:38pm

jamule wrote: »

3min pb for scullion, He will be giving out now he didn't beat Craggs record but thats a good thing.

John Treacy ran a 61 min dead HM I think, so SS is the, ahem, second fastest Irishman ever over the distance

Edit. That was a bit of a cheap shot. I remember Cragg being parachuted in in his mid 20's and there being a bit of resistance in some quarters? Did he contribute much to the athletics scene here aside from breaking records and competing in majir championships?

dna_leri · 14-09-2020 9:30am

healy1835 wrote: »

John Treacy ran a 61 min dead HM I think, so SS is the, ahem, second fastest Irishman ever over the distance

Edit. That was a bit of a cheap shot. I remember Cragg being parachuted in in his mid 20's and there being a bit of resistance in some quarters? Did he contribute much to the athletics scene here aside from breaking records and competing in majir championships?

Not "parachuted" - Irish passport holder since childhood.
Good interview here:
https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/othersport/arid-40025507.html

Contributed more to the athletics scene here than most of us.

healy1835 · 14-09-2020 11:16am

dna_leri wrote: »

Not "parachuted" - Irish passport holder since childhood.
Good interview here:
https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/othersport/arid-40025507.html

Contributed more to the athletics scene here than most of us.

Well he was parachuted in to be fair, Irish passport or not, he hadn't been an underage athlete for Ireland. I was never questioning his abilities, records or efforts while wearing the Green singlet, just as to whether he was really accepted by the running community here and if he did more than just turn up at championships. It would appear by that interview, a nice retrospective on his career notwithstanding, that he seems to think he has an obligation to give something back to the running system here.

Duanington · 14-09-2020 11:26am

healy1835 wrote: »

61:10ish from Scullion in Larne this morning. Some running. Seaward around 63 mins.

Super running from Scullion. Interesting to see now if Seaward\Pollock go again or if they can sit on their times now

average_runner · 14-09-2020 11:45am

Duanington wrote: »

Super running from Scullion. Interesting to see now if Seaward\Pollock go again or if they can sit on their times now

Sets him nicely for London

Duanington · 14-09-2020 11:54am

average_runner wrote: »

Sets him nicely for London

It really does, puts him firmly into sub 2.10 territory

IvoryTower · 14-09-2020 12:54pm

Delighted for him. Not sure how i feel about him doing some training with Mo, I feel like if it was anyone else id probably assume the worst but because im a fan boy im trying to shrug it off. It's probably an opportunity too good to turn down and a dream situation for most athletes who are just below that level. But....Mo. Need WalshB in here to clear my conscience.

KSU · 14-09-2020 4:02pm

IvoryTower wrote: »

Delighted for him. Not sure how i feel about him doing some training with Mo, I feel like if it was anyone else id probably assume the worst but because im a fan boy im trying to shrug it off. It's probably an opportunity too good to turn down and a dream situation for most athletes who are just below that level. But....Mo. Need WalshB in here to clear my conscience.

To be fair it's a popular training spot for Irish/UK athletes, Similar to where he trains in Flagstaff plenty of athletes loop in with each other when suits without actually having any connection outside of the runs.

average_runner · 14-09-2020 4:09pm

KSU wrote: »

To be fair it's a popular training spot for Irish/UK athletes, Similar to where he trains in Flagstaff plenty of athletes loop in with each other when suits without actually having any connection outside of the runs.

He spent more time with O'Connor and another person than Mo's group. Mo's group was mainly long runs etc. Got some advice from Gary also.

I think he just saw how the top athletes work at a different level.

IvoryTower · 14-09-2020 4:09pm

yes they all seem to have their own coaches, different sessions and lots of different groups on long runs so its not exactly what you'd call a training partner

KSU · 14-09-2020 4:26pm

average_runner wrote: »

I think he just saw how the top athletes work at a different level.

Would have said that this was something he was accustomed to give Ed Cheserek and Hassan Mead are some of his regular training partners in Flag, Even the Japanese athletes in the group are in the 2.08/9 range from a marathon perspective

Duanington · 14-09-2020 4:42pm

I don't think SS was lacking any quality training companions. The group in Flagstaff are pretty quick folk. Who knows what the difference is this time around? Better standard of shoe polish to black out the next%s with ?:pac:

healy1835 · 14-09-2020 4:45pm

Duanington wrote: »

I don't think SS was lacking any quality training companions. The group in Flagstaff are pretty quick folk. Who knows what the difference is this time around? Better standard of shoe polish to black out the next%s with ?:pac:

Looked like blacked out Alphaflys to me

Duanington · 14-09-2020 4:47pm

healy1835 wrote: »

Looked like blacked out Alphaflys to me

Really? Haven't seen any out on the roads yet

healy1835 · 14-09-2020 4:55pm

Duanington wrote: »

Really? Haven't seen any out on the roads yet

Well from a few of the pics they certainly looked like them. Although all the others were in Next%'s which would make you wonder. Looked like the sole of the AlphaFly' s anyway.... Not that it matters one jot either!

average_runner · 14-09-2020 4:58pm

KSU wrote: »

Would have said that this was something he was accustomed to give Ed Cheserek and Hassan Mead are some of his regular training partners in Flag, Even the Japanese athletes in the group are in the 2.08/9 range from a marathon perspective

I agree, but what he probably means he got to see another side of it as they all train that bit differently. Gary's group seem to push the pace in long runs while in Flagstaff that wasn't the case.

IvoryTower · 14-09-2020 5:24pm

ah im not surprised with the result at all, always thought he would make a big jump if a few things came together. Felt he was a good bit better than the other irish hopefuls and just needed the right race. Hope he smashes it in London.

KSU · 14-09-2020 5:33pm

healy1835 wrote: »

Well from a few of the pics they certainly looked like them. Although all the others were in Next%'s which would make you wonder. Looked like the sole of the AlphaFly' s anyway.... Not that it matters one jot either!

Course it matters......... easier to polish the Black and Green

AuldManKing · 15-09-2020 1:38pm

Duanington wrote: »

Really? Haven't seen any out on the roads yet

There's a few pairs going around alright - seen a few pics in local races & some banter amongst some folks.

66_Lad · 15-09-2020 4:21pm

AuldManKing wrote: »

There's a few pairs going around alright - seen a few pics in local races & some banter amongst some folks.

There were a few pairs on show in Charleville on Sunday also. Some lads got them back in April when there was a limited release, and one purchased off Stockx trading platform

Tokyo 2020 Qualifying. Athletes to watch

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