Do you believe in UFOs & flying saucers ?

Feisar · 19-07-2020 9:59pm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_paradox

The Universe is so vast one would imagine life exists elsewhere. However that vastness also means we will never bump into another intelligent life form. Even travelling at the speed of light, it would take between 100 and 160 thousand years to cross the Milky Way.

bangkok · 19-07-2020 11:22pm

Feisar wrote: »

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_paradox

The Universe is so vast one would imagine life exists elsewhere. However that vastness also means we will never bump into another intelligent life form. Even travelling at the speed of light, it would take between 100 and 160 thousand years to cross the Milky Way.

More than likely they use worm holes to get from a-b

ExMachina1000 · 19-07-2020 11:43pm

Better off not being found. If they get here to us first it means they are much more advanced. History tells us that the people who do the discovering usually wipe out the natives

unhappys10 · 20-07-2020 7:10am

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

Better off not being found. If they get here to us first it means they are much more advanced. History tells us that the people who do the discovering usually wipe out the natives

You'd hope a civilisation that advanced would be a bit more enlightened.

The thinking being that if they weren't they would never have made it to the level they would need to be at to travel here due to wiping each other out!

saabsaab · 20-07-2020 8:00pm

unhappys10 wrote: »

You'd hope a civilisation that advanced would be a bit more enlightened.

The thinking being that if they weren't they would never have made it to the level they would need to be at to travel here due to wiping each other out!

Well maybe but they might have wiped out the opposition and went from there. Or they are so advanced they might look upon us as insects.

ExMachina1000 · 21-07-2020 9:52pm

They could have either set of intentions. They could also be like us and at a similar level and were searching for life too but got lucky with a probe.

They might be freaking out too

NIMAN · 21-07-2020 9:56pm

Rhys Essien wrote: »

There’s supposed to be a big announcement coming in the New York Times this week about the US government being in possession of material/wreckage from a UFO. We’ll wait and see.

Did it ever appear?

Who said it was coming? The NYT themselves? Or a crank on the internet?

Say my name · 21-07-2020 10:17pm

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

Better off not being found. If they get here to us first it means they are much more advanced. History tells us that the people who do the discovering usually wipe out the natives

Has War of the Worlds and the Coronavirus not taught us anything?

The Buggers are just observing us and are too afraid of catching the virus.

Ipso · 22-07-2020 12:03am

NIMAN wrote: »

Did it ever appear?

Who said it was coming? The NYT themselves? Or a crank on the internet?

A crank that works for the NYT, most likely. Expect there to be a big whiff of DeLonge/Bigelow from it.

I Am Nobody · 22-07-2020 12:15am

It's the NYT for feck sake.I'dd believe stories from the National Enquirer over them.

Ipso · 22-07-2020 1:01am

I Am Nobody wrote: »

It's the NYT for feck sake.I'dd believe stories from the National Enquirer over them.

Their reporting on bat boy was inspiring.

Rhys Essien · 22-07-2020 1:09am

If any Irish journalist wants to make a name for themselves, they should be asking the Irish Aviation Authority the results of their findings into the report of the multiple sightings off the south coast in 2018.

bangkok · 22-07-2020 10:25am

Rhys Essien wrote: »

If any Irish journalist wants to make a name for themselves, they should be asking the Irish Aviation Authority the results of their findings into the report of the multiple sightings off the south coast in 2018.

sad thing is it could be career ending to ask that question

BorneTobyWilde · 22-07-2020 1:38pm

bangkok wrote: »

sad thing is it could be career ending to ask that question

I thought it was just planes.

bangkok · 22-07-2020 2:30pm

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

I thought it was just planes.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-46181662

def wasnt planes

SixtaWalthers · 22-07-2020 2:58pm

Honestly, I don't believe but I believe that in this current world, we have more dangerous aligens in the form of humans and weapons more advanced than UFOs.

McGinniesta · 22-07-2020 3:02pm

Unidentified flying objects definitely.

I certainly wouldn't dismiss the possibility of extra terrestrial life. I don't know whether or not we have any concrete evidence to confirm or deny their existence.

ilovemuffin · 22-07-2020 7:27pm

I've seen a UFO that didn't seem to be a drone (which are all the rage now and everyone and their aunt has a drone of some form now).

And no it was not one of those Chinese skylanterns with the fire in the middle that makes it rise either. This was different in that it performed maneuvers that would be otherwise impossible with a plane, as moving like that would damage the plane.

It performed perfect 45 degree turns without slowing down and doing a curve to turn, like a plane would. In order to do a perfect 45 degree turn you need to slow down, and approach the turn slowly in a curve. This was my proof that some entity has mastered flight and can fly much better than conventional aircraft. Not necessarily saying it's aliens or some sentient beings, but it freaked me the fuck out

Dr. Bre · 23-07-2020 12:15am

ilovemuffin wrote: »

I've seen a UFO that didn't seem to be a drone (which are all the rage now and everyone and their aunt has a drone of some form now).

And no it was not one of those Chinese skylanterns with the fire in the middle that makes it rise either. This was different in that it performed maneuvers that would be otherwise impossible with a plane, as moving like that would damage the plane.

It performed perfect 45 degree turns without slowing down and doing a curve to turn, like a plane would. In order to do a perfect 45 degree turn you need to slow down, and approach the turn slowly in a curve. This was my proof that some entity has mastered flight and can fly much better than conventional aircraft. Not necessarily saying it's aliens or some sentient beings, but it freaked me the fuck out

Where you see this ?

An Ri rua · 23-07-2020 12:25am

I've definitely seen a UFO. About 12 years ago. Looking from Tullamore NE towards Croghan Hill /Kinnegad direction.
A bright light, as bright as a star, brighter than a satellite, moved South to North across the NE sky, at 1am at night. I watched it with interest as I finished many winter nights with a few minutes stargazing at that time.
I thought to myself that it was moving quite fast. After continuing across the sky for 4-5 seconds, it turned at a right angle and went straight up. I've never seen anything like it since; though I have read one or two eyewitness accounts, one from a US air force pilot, that match what I saw that night.

No drink or drugs involved. May have had a cigarillo. Very credible observer. As many are, until they relate what they've seen.

Hector Savage · 23-07-2020 9:59am

Maybe it's been posted already - interesting podcast ...

He had Bob Lazar on before ...

I see it as entertainment, great entertainment- the only thing that has floored me is that footage from the FLIR system on those US fighter jets from 2004 ... I cannot see another explanation, I would love to see it debunked...

nthclare · 23-07-2020 10:57am

Myself and my son seen near one Doolough Co Clare, myself and my son just stood there watching this thing,and it wasn't a drone.
My lads very easy going,and nonchalantly said sure dad who's going to believe us, but we're both looking at it.

Sure some scientist like Richard Dawkins the Pope of the Atheists would suggest that we were under some delusion which was triggered by the sun and athmospheics, along with staring at the one object for too long.
A bit like his anology about the dancing sun in his book The God delusion.

It was a dull October's evening and it has an odd round but abstract shape to it.

Supposedly some people are more observant of what's going on around them than others and can see shapes and movements that others can't see because they're they're not creative and able to cognitively work out certain shape's and movements.

I'm not talking about Jesus on toast or the Co Limerick Virgin Mary stumps etc

An Ri rua · 23-07-2020 11:17am

nthclare wrote: »

Myself and my son seen near one Doolough Co Clare, myself and my son just stood there watching this thing,and it wasn't a drone.
My lads very easy going,and nonchalantly said sure dad who's going to believe us, but we're both looking at it.

Sure some scientist like Richard Dawkins the Pope of the Atheists would suggest that we were under some delusion which was triggered by the sun and athmospheics, along with staring at the one object for too long.
A bit like his anology about the dancing sun in his book The God delusion.

It was a dull October's evening and it has an odd round but abstract shape to it.

Supposedly some people are more observant of what's going on around them than others and can see shapes and movements that others can't see because they're they're not creative and able to cognitively work out certain shape's and movements.

I'm not talking about Jesus on toast or the Co Limerick Virgin Mary stumps etc

I know you from your other posts, nthclare, in farming forum, your an outdoors man. Same as myself, born on a farm, stuck in offices but at home when I'm streamwalking or stargazing. As you say, some people are highly observant. And when they tell people in their private circle things, they get taken seriously. But UFOs smashes the strongest credibility! It's a gas thing. Just how it is.

nthclare · 23-07-2020 2:15pm

An Ri rua wrote: »

I know you from your other posts, nthclare, in farming forum, your an outdoors man. Same as myself, born on a farm, stuck in offices but at home when I'm streamwalking or stargazing. As you say, some people are highly observant. And when they tell people in their private circle things, they get taken seriously. But UFOs smashes the strongest credibility! It's a gas thing. Just how it is.

Yes being highly observant is something unique that lot of people will never have.

You'll get the people who'll no matter what, they'll have what they call a scientific theory to explain it away.

Theory's are suspected economical lies, until proven otherwise.

You've a plethora of people,some think mathematicaly and in equations, others think in pictures and are more creative and innovative.

What's the point in proving something wrong all the time, rather than looking more deeply into it.

Rhys Essien · 23-07-2020 3:24pm

nthclare wrote: »

Myself and my son seen near one Doolough Co Clare, myself and my son just stood there watching this thing,and it wasn't a drone.
My lads very easy going,and nonchalantly said sure dad who's going to believe us, but we're both looking at it.

Sure some scientist like Richard Dawkins the Pope of the Atheists would suggest that we were under some delusion which was triggered by the sun and athmospheics, along with staring at the one object for too long.
A bit like his anology about the dancing sun in his book The God delusion.

It was a dull October's evening and it has an odd round but abstract shape to it.

Supposedly some people are more observant of what's going on around them than others and can see shapes and movements that others can't see because they're they're not creative and able to cognitively work out certain shape's and movements.

I'm not talking about Jesus on toast or the Co Limerick Virgin Mary stumps etc

Very interesting. How did you feel in the moment you witnessed it?

I remember my experience it all feeling a bit surreal. I was calm yet nervous as hell. I actually had to look away because I said to myself that a beam of light is going to come down from this thing any minute and I'm going to be abducted.

As someone mentioned that you're a farmer, I recommend watching this case from Canada in 1974 about farmer Edwin Fuhr. All I'll say is I believe him.

Butson · 23-07-2020 3:37pm

I always find it interesting when people who believe in God snigger at those who say they believe in, or have seen, a UFO.

So many people have seen these things, going back hundreds of years, that they cant all be making it up / bat**** crazy.

I always think that J Allen Hynek is a good example. He was asked to run the Project Bluebook programme for the US Air Force in the 50s and 60s. At first he was insulted to be asked, given he was a leading Astronomer at the time, and after some convincing went into it a total skeptic. Came out the other side a total believer.

The Cometa Report by the French government in the 80s is worth a read too. Conclusion - they are not ours, its a serious subject that needs to be taken as such by governments and scientists.

nthclare · 23-07-2020 3:46pm

Butson wrote: »

I always find it interesting when people who believe in God snigger at those who say they believe in, or have seen, a UFO.

So many people have seen these things, going back hundreds of years, that they cant all be making it up / bat**** crazy.

I always think that J Allen Hynek is a good example. He was asked to run the Project Bluebook programme for the US Air Force in the 50s and 60s. At first he was insulted to be asked, given he was a leading Astronomer at the time, and after some convincing went into it a total skeptic. Came out the other side a total believer.

The Cometa Report by the French government in the 80s is worth a read too. Conclusion - they are not ours, its a serious subject that needs to be taken as such by governments and scientists.

During the 90's there was mutilated animals found around the Shannon Estuary, more so on the Limerick side, a few on the Clare side too.

And there was strange craft seen in the area.

It was something like you'd hear from Skinwalker ranch in America.
Really strange things going on.

I'd believe in UFO's before I'd believe in God.

I'm not sure if they're piloted by aliens or just phenomena we haven't the instruments to measure yet.

Then again they could be interdemsional objects and our brains cannot collaborate it and they just look like flying saucers.

nthclare · 23-07-2020 3:51pm

Rhys Essien wrote: »

Very interesting. How did you feel in the moment you witnessed it?

I remember my experience it all feeling a bit surreal. I was calm yet nervous as hell. I actually had to look away because I said to myself that a beam of light is going to come down from this thing any minute and I'm going to be abducted.

As someone mentioned that you're a farmer, I recommend watching this case from Canada in 1974 about farmer Edwin Fuhr. All I'll say is I believe him.

How I felt, it didn't really bother the both of us because we're quite laid back and have a "couldn't give a toss" attitude...

We talk about it a few times a year and it was what it was.
There's no point in drawing attention to ourselves and people are more sceptical than open-minded.

He was 9 I was 34 that was ten years ago.

Rhys Essien · 23-07-2020 3:55pm

Butson wrote: »

I always find it interesting when people who believe in God snigger at those who say they believe in, or have seen, a UFO.

So many people have seen these things, going back hundreds of years, that they cant all be making it up / bat**** crazy.

I always think that J Allen Hynek is a good example. He was asked to run the Project Bluebook programme for the US Air Force in the 50s and 60s. At first he was insulted to be asked, given he was a leading Astronomer at the time, and after some convincing went into it a total skeptic. Came out the other side a total believer.

The Cometa Report by the French government in the 80s is worth a read too. Conclusion - they are not ours, its a serious subject that needs to be taken as such by governments and scientists.

I suppose there’s so many people going around with a one track mind they don’t even have time to think about the subject. It’s definitely a real phenomenon.

What’s your take on it, time travelers, inter-dimensional beings or something else?

4068ac1elhodqr · 23-07-2020 4:06pm

nthclare wrote: »

During the 90's there was mutilated animals found around the Shannon Estuary, more so on the Limerick side, a few on the Clare side too.

And there was strange craft seen in the area.

It was something like you'd hear from Skinwalker ranch in America.
Really strange things going on.

I'd believe in UFO's before I'd believe in God.

I'm not sure if they're piloted by aliens or just phenomena we haven't the instruments to measure yet.

Then again they could be interdemsional objects and our brains cannot collaborate it and they just look like flying saucers.

The two are the same. i.e. Any UFO (intelligent lifeform, in craft, making it's way here) would be 'god like' by default, with their superior knowledge and capabilities.

Animal mutilations are ongoing and significant, and something likely experienced by every sizable country on the planet. Many forces have special quick reaction sections, designated for the inspection, removal, and news supression of such incidents.

A simple cow with 4 stomachs, and ability to turn simple grass into milk, proteins and methane, might be of special interest to visitors.

Do you believe in UFOs & flying saucers ?

Comments