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If a German regime took over the running and planning of Ireland in the 1950s..

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    badabing106
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    What would Ireland look like today?

    If they (or any other regime, free from gombeenism) had wanted to make a go of Ireland as a country, putting all their resources and strategic planning behind it. What would Ireland look like today. What would be the social and economic landscape look like?

    Let me get out my calculator

    I can't imagine childcare costing 1000 per month in some places? Possibly free or 90 % subsidised with childcare amenities planned for

    Housing. Would a average sized house in a nice area in Dublin cost 1 million? Lol. 1/4 million max?

    Cost of food and entertainment? 50% less? 148 euro plus 8 euro ticketmaster fees for front row seats to see David Gray in an arena? Are you having a laugh

    Sports. Would it have taken 72 years to build an Olympic sized pool in Ireland? Would Ireland be having a national holiday getting dumped out of the soccer world cup quarter finals?

    Infrastructure. I presume there would be fast and frequent rail transport from airports


    Industry. We would be leaders of renewable energy technologies employing 10s of thousands. The size of the waves off the coast of Ireland

    Average industrial wage. Double what it is today


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    badabing106 wrote: »
    What would Ireland look like today?

    If they (or any other regime, free from gombeenism) had wanted to make a go of Ireland as a country, putting all their resources and strategic planning behind it. What would Ireland look like today. What would be the social and economic landscape look like?

    Let me get out my calculator

    I can't imagine childcare costing 1000 per month in some places? Possibly free or 90 % subsidised with childcare amenities planned for

    Housing. Would a average sized house in a nice area in Dublin cost 1 million? Lol. 1/4 million max?

    Cost of food and entertainment? 50% less? 148 euro plus 8 euro ticketmaster fees for front row seats to see David Gray in an arena? Are you having a laugh

    Sports. Would it have taken 72 years to build an Olympic sized pool in Ireland? Would Ireland be having a national holiday getting dumped out of the soccer world cup quarter finals?

    Infrastructure. I presume there would be fast and frequent rail transport from airports

    :pac:
    Industry. We would be leaders of renewable energy technologies employing 10s of thousands. The size of the waves off the coast of Ireland

    Average industrial wage. Double what it is today
    :pac::pac::pac::pac:


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    LineOfBeauty
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    At least triple the amount of parades each year.


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    0byme75341jo28
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    Is it any wonder no one looks at Boards anymore?


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    corner of hells
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    I'd like to be a Tiger tank commander or maybe a Stuka pilot.

    Herself could be in trouble though , the old Jewish heritage wouldn't do her any good.


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    Ipso
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    It would be hard to get used to people dressed in black telling everyone what to do.


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    Without going into the ethical and moral issues of the Nazi regime, the perception of its efficiency and ability to have "the trains run on time" was just that. A perception.

    In reality, the regime was rife with croneyism and corruption. It had to rely on slave labour to function.


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    ytpe2r5bxkn0c1
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    Jesus wept!


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    Yester
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    The buses would run on time


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    SmartinMartin
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    You wouldn't see many travellers around.


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    riffmongous
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    3 words into the title and you just know this thread is going to be a Trainwreck, fair play OP, your nazi heroes would be proud of your efficiency


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    Stacksofwacks
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    So in a nutshell your saying we would be all better off if the Nazis took over, good god


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    I Am The Law
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    Ward J. Littell wrote: »
    Without going into the ethical and moral issues of the Nazi regime, the perception of its efficiency and ability to have "the trains run on time" was just that. A perception.

    In reality, the regime was rife with croneyism and corruption. It had to rely on slave labour to function.

    No change there then.


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    LirW
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    There'd be one hell of an Autobahn around Dublin.


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    The Tetrarch
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    Nice uniforms for everyone.


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    Samuel T. Cogley
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    No more Man in the High Castle for you OP.


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    corner of hells
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    The Tetrarch wrote: »
    Nice uniforms for everyone.

    Theres thousands of young fellas going round Dublin already with the haircut to go with the uniforms.


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    Stacksofwacks
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    We'd be living under a dictatorship of a foreign murder cult, whatever little of us that were left. Even if the Nazi's won the war the regime would never have survived no more than a few decades anyway. There would have been too many uprisings and rebellions. Europe is nigh on impossible to control anyway as there are so many different nations and ethnicities. It was a doomed project from the start


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    ytpe2r5bxkn0c1
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    I see the thread title has changed from Nazi to German.

    So, do the points in the OP still stand?


    Childcare in some parts of Germany exceeds €900 per month. Utilities cost approx. €250 per month. An apartment in Munich is €2,250+ per month.


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    Sincere Big Mountain wrote: »
    I see the thread title has changed from Nazi to German.

    About as subtle as a brick to the face. Imagine if he squeezes the calculator it makes a noise.


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    Ipso
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    Stacksofwacks wrote: »
    We'd be living under a dictatorship of a foreign murder cult, whatever little of us that were left. Even if the Nazi's won the war the regime would never have survived no more than a few decades anyway. There would have been too many uprisings and rebellions. Europe is nigh on impossible to control anyway as there are so many different nations and ethnicities. It was a doomed project from the start

    Shur, as long as they weren't English.


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    Jonybgud
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    About as subtle as a brick to the face. Imagine if he squeezes the calculator it makes a noise.

    Abacus, eye eye who has money for batteries,


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    badabing106
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    Ward J. Littell wrote: »
    Without going into the ethical and moral issues of the Nazi regime, the perception of its efficiency and ability to have "the trains run on time" was just that. A perception.

    In reality, the regime was rife with croneyism and corruption. It had to rely on slave labour to function.

    Fair point, None of that credit goes to the Nazis, but Germany industry and technology enterprise was second to none in that time period

    Germany went from economic obliteration after world war 1 to a superpower and leaders in industry and technology in the short time preceding


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    kona
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    Pavee point would have a awful time .


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    banie01
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    corner of hells wrote: »
    I'd like to be a Tiger tank commander or maybe a Stuka pilot.

    Herself could be in trouble though , the old Jewish heritage wouldn't do her any good.

    ILoveYourVibes is your Mrs? ;)


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    banie01
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    The Tetrarch wrote: »
    Nice uniforms for everyone.

    Quite fond of a bit of Hugo Boss aftershave, their uniforms are sweet too :D


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    FrancieBrady
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    Caclick Germans or Proddy ones?


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    TuringBot47
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    Cheap volkswagens for all and no VRT.
    Although they'd probably force the country to left hand drive for efficiency.


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    badabing106 wrote: »
    Fair point, None of that credit goes to the Nazis, but Germany industry and technology enterprise was second to none in that time period

    Germany went from economic obliteration after world war 1 to a superpower and leaders in industry and technology in the short time preceding

    I wouldn't go that far. I mean the German army was still using horses all the way through World War 2 when the allies had become almost completely mechanized.


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    badabing106
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    Stacksofwacks wrote: »
    We'd be living under a dictatorship of a foreign murder cult, whatever little of us that were left

    There are very few countries in history that haven't lived under a dictarship of a foreign murder cult?


    In fact, are there any?


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    Stacksofwacks
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    badabing106 wrote: »
    There are very few countries in history that haven't lived under a dictarship of a foreign murder cult?


    In fact, are there any?

    Look in fairness the Brits while they did commit atrocities from time to time they never put people in concentration camps and systematically murdered whole races of people


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