Star Trek Discovery S03E03 'People of Earth' - Discussion

ilovesmybrick wrote: »

I'm sorry, but "woke" is a ludicrous charge to level at any Star Trek show. Every single series has tried to be socially progressive in it's own way, going right back to The Cage with Number One and having a woman in a command position. From the interracial kiss between Kirk and Uhura, the black and white Charons, the ethics of Data's right to self determination, the kiss between Dax and a previous hosts wife, the racism of twentieth century American in several DS9 episodes, the rise of jingoism and nationalism on Earth in Enterprise (& DS9 at the outset of the dominion), it goes on and on.

Dislike the Disco all you want, and I do have issue with how ham fisted some of this is in Disco, but if you're under the illusion that Star Trek has never been a show that engages with contemporaneous social issues then you may want to go back and rewatch these older series a bit more closely.

I have watched Star Trek all my live thanks very much. I posted the below earlier on in this thread not that read it.

“”Ah stop the whole arching plot is a complete joke written by woke idiots. Can you imagine riker doing what Burnham does, countermanding Picard or getting in a fist fight with Data.

There is a hatred of men which is constantly displayed throughout this show, they have emasculated Spock. The constant moving camera shooting dynamic is awful the “main” characters are pathetic, Tilly for example is written to appeal to snowflakes and burnham is no way likeable. This latest season is entirely contrived, badly, in my opinion to have two black characters as the leads in Star Trek, a woman in an iron man suite crashes into and disable a mans space ship come on.
It’s is ground breaking when you consider that the original Star Trek had white guys “blacked up” to play sKlingons for example, an awful thing. But this puts everything that Star Trek has achieved into the garbage, Ben Sisko, Janeway, worf, le forge, all well written characters with a morale code that does not discriminate. Plus the many many episodes of there respective iterations that tackled numerous injustices.

Fine have a show with an agenda but write the damn thing so it at least does justice to the themes.

pixelburp wrote: »

Oh GOODY, another tedious diversion over that lazy 'effing reduction of "woke". What larks.

If people actually looked up the definition instead of jumping on a high horse things might be a lot less tense.

flazio wrote: »

Yeah, but you went home after work every day presumably. Try serving on a military mission for two years, or serving on a sea vessel sailing the world. In those instances, your workmates are your family.

Ya navy personnel regularly break down crying on duty.

Evade wrote: »

There's three things to like in this episode.

1. Saru is the captain
2. The memorial wall. The scene was awful but the wall itself is a nice touch.
3. They're continuing whatever is going on with Detmer. It could turn out to be crap but it hopefully won't be a Burnham-centric plot line.

But can somebody for the love of God (who needs a starship) pin a giant notice in the writers room of the general scale of galaxies.

The Nguyen thing is a perfect example of how bad they are at this. Titan is only hours away at impulse, even at the speeds we currently have the Star Trek style life support and artificial gravity would make the trip long but doable. And radios exist, they have done for over a thousand years in this time.

Also millions died is comically low, I had to re-watch the scene with subtitles to be absolutely sure it wasn't billions, which is still low for a galactic event. Dozens to hundreds of millions of Starfleet personnel alone should have died given what we know about the Burn. To be absolutely fair this is an old issue, the Cardassians did nothing wrong on Bajor given the stated numbers, but it's glaring in this episode.

EDIT: And Discovery need a massive refit.

“Captain sensors indicate a massive cynical disturbance!