New bin collecting

Just read that pdf, looks like this is actually in part, due to recently introduced EU regulations. Is there any part of our lives that they can't affect without the citizens having a say in it. How do they expect to force people to pay for and present a food bin? Do you have to pay if the bin is empty? Also mentions that our recycling bins will be microchipped! Surely there are better uses for technology and this bs is adding to the cost which is always incresing. Also, says that general waste bins deemed to have too much food waste will not be collected and will get a sticker to say they are contaminated. How will they figure that? Are they gonna crawl into my bin?

I'd wager the bin men are none too happy about these new duties, typical example of those who are not going to have to actually do the work making it harder and more complicated.

I know it's only bins but IMO it exemplifies the way we will live from now on under the EU and our own corrupt and inept government: forced to pay a standing charge for everything they can think of, be it your bin, your water, tv/internet (when the Tv license becomes the broadcast charge), anything you need they will charge for, and in some cases you get charged whether you use it or not, meanwhile your property tax and income tax goes into a black hole and provides you with nothing in return.

What if I have my rent and other bills due or I need to buy oil, etc. on the week when they want to collect this food bin, am I meant to take money out of the paltry amount I have left over for buying food, to pay for an empty bin? When you can barely afford your weekly shopping you don't waste much food, I can tell you with certainty. The truth is the only way I could possibly fill a bin fortnightly with food is if I dump all the food I buy directly into it upon returning from the supermarket!

This really angers me but you know what, I can hardly see this being enforced in any way, no one I've spoken to seems to understand it, and I doubt the bin men really want the extra hassle or care how often I put out my bin or if a few banana peels make its way into my general waste. I certainly don't plan on paying for this food waste bin every two weeks if it's not full, and they can't force me to. Since the whole point is to reduce the general waste whch is landfill waste, the food waste, which is biodegradable, should just be included with the standing monthly charge. That way people will be encouraged to use it and at least then the standing charge could be justified. People will only be encouraged to avoid mking landfill waste if it will save them money. Making it more complicated and more expensive while forcing people into paying standing charges and putting a bin out on designated days will never work. Maybe in Germany, but not here.

Bebo stunnah wrote: »

I had a good look at the thing Barna are sending out (I forget a few of the details)


From my understanding, they do fortnightly collections, you do not have to put your bins out every 2 weeks. But that means they're doing half the collections but cost more.

No, if you read the PDF from the council that was posted earlier it says you have to put the new food waste bin (which greenstar have not provided or mentioned in their pamphlet) out for collection every two weeks, to avoid the food rotting and such. What I can see happening is you top up your card and they start deducting 6 euro every two weeks for that bin on top of the standing charge which will cost you a fortune before you even get to putting out your recycling or general waste. I can't believe the local papers are not covering this, another blatant rip off being shoved down everyone's throats with poor communication and confusing everyone. The irony is they think this is going to deter illegal dumping and burning of waste, quite the opposite IMO.

Bebo stunnah wrote: »

I'd say that was way down the list. Money was the top 3 things the companies and council had

Yeah but obviously they are not going to put that in the materials they released. Again, if you read the pdf from the sligo co council it has all the info, including the new rules and their supposed reasons for them, and they say the main reasons are to discourage landfill waste and illegal disposal of waste, and to be able to record the amounts of each type of waste to please the EU, who can penalize countries for non compliance.

It suggests wrapping your food waste (of which I would have very little) in newspapers (which I never buy) to discourage odors and pest issues related to having a bin of rotting food sitting for two weeks. Ffs it'll be a full time job just organizing my rubbish, on top of that I'll need to find a second job just to afford to have it taken away. I'd say more people will be looking for less than legal alternatives rather than use this overcomplicated and overpriced new system.

All of this confusion about the food waste bin driving me crazy. Greenstar never even mentioned it in their letter about the new rates, and have not provided this bin. Though I live in the town so not sure if I am in one of the areas required, but I thought 'Sligo Borough area' meant town. Anyway, no effin way I am paying 6 euro to have it taken away if it is not full. I just can't see this working between standing charges, forced biweekly collections, confusion over everything, they're going to have major hassle getting people to do what they want and pay what they want. Rubbish should not be this difficult! When I lived in the US your taxes paid for the bin collecting, you seperated your recycling, put the whole lot out and you didn't have to think about it at all. When I moved back I thought the buying a bag or tag thing was ridiculous, but this new system being forced on us just goes beyond the beyond. The only way they can make this work is if the food bin is included with the standing charges. I know Barna is only 2 euro but I wouldn't be keen on paying a 20 euro charge in one go every three months. I can't afford to top up my phone 20 at a time even though I get unlimited any network texts and same network calls for it, I sure as hell am not paying 20 euro just for nothing at all other than the privilege of paying them another fee per lift of my bin.

Either they include the forced collection of food bins in the standing charge or they do away with the standing charge and have it be a true pay per lift service, even if the cost is a bit more per lift. Otherwise it is too expensive, too confusing and just unfair to the consumer. In any case, you can't force people to pay for and put out a bin if they are not using it, and unless it is really cheap people just won't use it, and I doubt they will be wanting to clog up the court system with ordinary law abiding people disputing fines over their rubbish collecting.