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N40 - Cork South Ring Bandon & Sarsfield Flyovers

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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,016 ✭✭✭blindsider


    http://www.sturdyproducts.com/products/road-furniture/road-dividers/sturdy-road-divider-musior-large

    When are they going to put in Road dividers? 5 months on, and still no sign of them - surely they're a necessity?

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  • Registered Users Posts: 707 ✭✭✭cork_south


    kub wrote: »
    You must be lucky so that you missed the tail back as far back as the Magic Roundabout from the tunnel yesterday evening.

    There was a 3 car crash on the road yesterday which caused the tail back as mentioned by @gardacork on twitter.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,311 ✭✭✭Days 298


    Well they still havent raised the limit yet. Bureaucracy knows no bounds.

    That siad I was behind a traffic corp entering the 60 zone last week. He went 80 and pulled no one overtaking him going 100 or so.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,035 ✭✭✭murphym7


    cork_south wrote: »
    There was a 3 car crash on the road yesterday which caused the tail back as mentioned by @gardacork on twitter.

    The tailback we are talking about happened on the 8th not the 9th.


  • Registered Users Posts: 707 ✭✭✭cork_south


    murphym7 wrote: »
    The tailback we are talking about happened on the 8th not the 9th.

    Yes, there were crashes on the road on both days.
    Please check https://twitter.com/GardaCork

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    GardaCheckpointsCork ‏@GardaCork 8 Jan
    Collision N40 South Ring Rd eastbound blocking the right lane near the Mahon exit
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    GardaCheckpointsCork ‏@GardaCork 9 Jan
    N40 South Ring Rd closed W/bound at Bloomfield due to 3 car crash also crash E/bound at Bloomfield however traffic able to pass
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    GardaCheckpointsCork ‏@GardaCork 9 Jan
    Gardai in the process of clearing 3 car crash from N40 South Ring Rd W/bound approaching Bloomfield
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  • Registered Users Posts: 315 ✭✭moyners


    Irish Examiner today:

    http://www.irishexaminer.com/text/ireland/cwojojmhsnau/
    Cork’s city manager has moved to ease fears about the completion of a €60m double flyover project on the city’s ring road while the main contractor works through examinership.

    Tim Lucey was responding to concerns raised by Bishopstown-based Fianna Fáil councillor Mary Shields about progress on the N40 scheme.

    Ms Shields described the two main construction sites — around the Bandon and Sarsfield Rd roundabouts — as "abandoned or ghost construction sites".

    However, Mr Lucey said that while Siac Construction Ltd is still in the examinership process, a contract for completion of the N40 scheme remains in place.

    Siac, the lead contractor on the €60m scheme, and eight related companies, employing 250 people, went into examinership in October.

    The High Court heard the companies owed their lender banks €42m.

    The petition stated that SCL had become insolvent due to a downturn in business caused by the recession in Ireland and losses arising from its involvement in a number of road-building projects in Poland.

    The company’s directors said that SCL was under significant pressure from its trade creditors, and any petition for its winding up would have a "catastrophic domino effect" on the group as a whole.

    The court was subsequently told that the various companies were involved in continuing and completed projects and were believed to have a reasonable prospect of survival.

    The new South Ring Rd flyovers opened to traffic last July, taking thousands of vehicles daily off the busy roundabouts.

    However, given the company’s difficulties, work on a substantial amount of completion works, including footpaths, drainage, landscaping, traffic signals, and remedial works to road pavements, has yet to be carried out.

    Ms Shields told Monday’s council meeting that work on the site has almost ceased, and machinery is lying idle.

    "I saw only two men with shovels on Monday working on the site," she said.

    "That is surely not progress and huge work needs to be done.

    "This site is now a ghost and abandoned site and surely examinership needs to be speeded up."

    Mr Lucey said that, while the outcome of the examinership process is awaited, Siac is still contractually obliged to finish the work.

    "Siac is well aware of that and they have committed to finishing the works," said Mr Lucey.

    "There is an amount of work still to be done and we await the outcome of the examinership process.

    "But there is a contractual obligation still in place to complete the project."


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,016 ✭✭✭blindsider


    Nice of him to include a committed completion date for the works....oh wait!!! :-((

    Utter codswallop from Lucey - more of the same sh1te - and we're expected to roll over and take it!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,175 ✭✭✭hoodwinked


    blindsider wrote: »
    Nice of him to include a committed completion date for the works....oh wait!!! :-((
    !

    they can't give a completion date as more than likely they don't have one, although a contract to complete is in place paying the staff to complete it is another totally different problem which at a guess is effecting the work rate.


  • Registered Users Posts: 112 ✭✭Baldilocks


    surely there is a penalty clause for failure to complete??


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,015 ✭✭✭Ludo


    Good luck getting that out of a company in examinership .


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,016 ✭✭✭blindsider


    hoodwinked wrote: »
    they can't give a completion date as more than likely they don't have one, although a contract to complete is in place paying the staff to complete it is another totally different problem which at a guess is effecting the work rate.

    My point exactly!


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,224 ✭✭✭alaimacerc


    Is there anything "structural" left to do? I'm guessing if it's just tidying up the roundabout islands and doing with and that with the footpaths, absolutely no urgency whatsoever will be evinced. (I speak as a cyclist that spends much time being yelled at for not using the cycle path (whether or not a cycle path even exists at the point of yellage), and much time finding that cycle paths have a cross-country like surface, and/or built-in kerbs sufficient to throw one off one's bike.)

    On the other hand, if the whole thing (or parts thereof) really is sinking...


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,016 ✭✭✭blindsider


    alaimacerc wrote: »
    Is there anything "structural" left to do? I'm guessing if it's just tidying up the roundabout islands and doing with and that with the footpaths, absolutely no urgency whatsoever will be evinced. (I speak as a cyclist that spends much time being yelled at for not using the cycle path (whether or not a cycle path even exists at the point of yellage), and much time finding that cycle paths have a cross-country like surface, and/or built-in kerbs sufficient to throw one off one's bike.)

    On the other hand, if the whole thing (or parts thereof) really is sinking...

    Yellage...nice Word! Might have to use that sometime! :-))


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,224 ✭✭✭alaimacerc


    Grammar production rule of "add -age to the end of everything" likely patented by Joss Whedon. :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 707 ✭✭✭cork_south


    With the end of January approaching I think we can safely say the high traffic volumes at the tunnel northbound which we saw at the end of last year were down to Christmas.

    In January I have not seen anything like the queuing that existed in December, except when there were accidents on the road.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,224 ✭✭✭alaimacerc


    I've noticed that the BRR has been smartened up a fair bit, and there's some sort of work underway at the SRR. Pumps and generators running... not sure if this is just to clear the site after the recent deluge, or if it's in preparation for some sort of finishing work.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,400 ✭✭✭TheChizler


    alaimacerc wrote: »
    I've noticed that the BRR has been smartened up a fair bit, and there's some sort of work underway at the SRR. Pumps and generators running... not sure if this is just to clear the site after the recent deluge, or if it's in preparation for some sort of finishing work.

    Some of the dips and bumps have been temporarily filled in all right. Hopefully we're nearly there.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,541 ✭✭✭AugustusMinimus


    No lights at all on the Bandon flyover. Weren't they working a few months ago ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,528 ✭✭✭kub


    No lights at all on the Bandon flyover. Weren't they working a few months ago ?

    I wouldn't be too concerned about it, there has been quite a lot of construction activity again out that way over the last week. Also bear in mind Audi are constructing a new garage at that old builders providers premises and may have accidentally damaged a power line or something.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,224 ✭✭✭alaimacerc


    There seem to be huge numbers of non-working street lights around Cork in general these days. Corpo cut that department, I guess?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,720 ✭✭✭Sir Arthur Daley


    alaimacerc wrote: »
    There seem to be huge numbers of non-working street lights around Cork in general these days. Corpo cut that department, I guess?

    There was a maintenance team working on lights at mid night earlier at the Sarsfield roundabout.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,224 ✭✭✭alaimacerc


    It must be said, that my vague understanding is that N-roads aren't the council's direct responsibility, so the two phenomena likely aren't at all related.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 67,600 Mod ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Street lighting is the responsibility of the provider not the council. It's airtricity in most but not all areas.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,035 ✭✭✭murphym7


    Temporary Traffic Management Measures
    Motorists are advised that significant traffic management measures will be put in place on the Cork South
    Ring Road overnight on Tuesday 18th March. The temporary arrangements will affect N40 traffic heading
    west from the Kinsale Road Roundabout. The westbound slip road heading toward the Sarsfield Road
    Roundabout will be reduced to 1 lane from Wednesday morning 19th March. Traffic management measures
    will also be in place on Sarsfield Road. All other routes will not be affected.
    Advance warning signage for N40 westbound traffic will be in place over the coming days immediately east
    of the Kinsale Road Flyover, immediately west of the Kinsale Road Flyover and at Pouladuff to alert
    motorists to the upcoming traffic management measures. Additionally, advance warning signage will be in
    place in the general vicinity of Sarsfield Road Roundabout to alert motorists in this area.
    An alternative route for traffic heading to CUH and Wilton via the Bandon Road Roundabout will be sign
    posted in advance of the works. Directional signage will be in place, commencing immediately west of the
    Kinsale Road Roundabout and motorists are asked to pay particularly close attention to this directional
    signage while the traffic management measures are in place.
    The purpose of the traffic management measures is to facilitate remedial works on the southern section of
    Sarsfield Roundabout and on the westbound slip road heading toward the Sarsfield Road Roundabout.
    It is anticipated that these works will be complete by mid-August with the above traffic management
    measures in place until then. Motorists should note that delays are expected, particularly at morning and
    evening peaks and are advised to take an alternative route where possible. Motorists should additionally note
    that An Garda Siochana will be on site throughout enforcing the works speed limit.
    Details of further traffic management measures required to complete the scheme will be issued under further
    progress updates. As always, those with queries or concerns in relation to any aspect of the scheme; can
    contact us on the free-phone helpline number 1800 932 046 or by email on n25@ccc-site


  • Registered Users Posts: 315 ✭✭moyners


    murphym7 wrote: »
    Temporary Traffic Management Measures
    Motorists are advised that significant traffic management measures will be put in place on the Cork South
    Ring Road overnight on Tuesday 18th March. The temporary arrangements will affect N40 traffic heading
    west from the Kinsale Road Roundabout. The westbound slip road heading toward the Sarsfield Road
    Roundabout will be reduced to 1 lane from Wednesday morning 19th March. Traffic management measures
    will also be in place on Sarsfield Road. All other routes will not be affected.
    Advance warning signage for N40 westbound traffic will be in place over the coming days immediately east
    of the Kinsale Road Flyover, immediately west of the Kinsale Road Flyover and at Pouladuff to alert
    motorists to the upcoming traffic management measures. Additionally, advance warning signage will be in
    place in the general vicinity of Sarsfield Road Roundabout to alert motorists in this area.
    An alternative route for traffic heading to CUH and Wilton via the Bandon Road Roundabout will be sign
    posted in advance of the works. Directional signage will be in place, commencing immediately west of the
    Kinsale Road Roundabout and motorists are asked to pay particularly close attention to this directional
    signage while the traffic management measures are in place.
    The purpose of the traffic management measures is to facilitate remedial works on the southern section of
    Sarsfield Roundabout and on the westbound slip road heading toward the Sarsfield Road Roundabout.
    It is anticipated that these works will be complete by mid-August with the above traffic management
    measures in place until then. Motorists should note that delays are expected, particularly at morning and
    evening peaks and are advised to take an alternative route where possible. Motorists should additionally note
    that An Garda Siochana will be on site throughout enforcing the works speed limit.
    Details of further traffic management measures required to complete the scheme will be issued under further
    progress updates. As always, those with queries or concerns in relation to any aspect of the scheme; can
    contact us on the free-phone helpline number 1800 932 046 or by email on n25@ccc-site
    Mid-August!


  • Registered Users Posts: 247 ✭✭bg07


    moyners wrote: »
    Mid-August!
    The west boundound slip to the sarsfield roundabout and the roundabout itself are sinking badly. They will probably need yo be dug up piled underneath and relaid. 6 months sounds about right for that


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,251 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    bg07 wrote: »
    The west boundound slip to the sarsfield roundabout and the roundabout itself are sinking badly. They will probably need yo be dug up piled underneath and relaid. 6 months sounds about right for that

    Badly is an understatement, I rarely come through the roundabout, but had to twice this week. The drop as you're coming from Kinsale Road Roundabout onto Sarsfields is pretty severe.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,016 ✭✭✭blindsider


    Jebus! That's going to be a disaster - back to chaos....ah well......


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,699 ✭✭✭Bacchus


    dulpit wrote: »
    Badly is an understatement, I rarely come through the roundabout, but had to twice this week. The drop as you're coming from Kinsale Road Roundabout onto Sarsfields is pretty severe.

    Yup, went through it last night. How did they manage to miss that in planning?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,541 ✭✭✭AugustusMinimus


    I presume the only piece that will be limited is slip lane going onto the Sarsfield's roundabout ?

    If that's the case, I wouldn't think it should make a huge amount of trouble. If you wanted to, you could continue onto the Bandon roundabout and do a 360 there to access Wilton.


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