Physiotherapist Vs Pharmacist in Ireland (Salary, and routes)?

The Hound Gone Wild wrote: »

I don't know where these people are working?? A new graduate can and should expect around 50-60k. A supervising Pharmacist should be above €70,000. I'm a managing pharmacist, my wife's a supervising pharmacist, we're both over 80k, I'm significantly over at 94k. Most of our friends are pharmacists and are on similar.

What kind of hours do you work?

9 to 5 type deal?

That's a nice salary; historically I viewed pharmacology as a more challenging area than pharmacy. Of course pharmacists seem to have degrees in pharmacology before progressing to clinical pharmacy but, R&D just seemed more challenging to me than running a community pharmacy.

Sour grapes?

Yeah a little.

I puke at career guidance standards, sending me doing an degree I'd never freakin' use.
We had this dipsh1t fat woman whose primary interest was stuffing her face in between giving absent minded career advice.

Alls I'm saying is racking up that kind of a salary on a non-life-consuming 9 to 5 job role is a cool way to live.

Was living with a junior Dr a couple years ago. He said his salary was 36k annual - not sure if that was net or gross.
I think he got living and travel benefits also though (as in, they fully paid for his diggs and car).

Physio typical annual salary

Less than 40 annually for physio

Pharmacist annual salary

About 70k annually for pharmacist.

Physios don't really move up the pay scale either.
Pharmacists do - so roughly twice as much for the latter.

Sound about right?

palmcut wrote: »

From a recent post on another thread.

Pharmacy salaries are dependent on the pharmacy that you work in. At present there are around 1,850 pharmacies registered with the HSE.

In 2017, 46% of the pharmacies received less than €120,000 in HSE fees. It is estimated that it takes about €150,000 for a small pharmacy to break even. Some of these 46% are doing well because their front of shop business is very good.

Generally about one third of the pharmacies are doing very well, one third are doing moderately well and the remaining third are not doing well.

Like every other business pharmacy went down hill from around the of 2008 and this has continued in pharmacy with new cuts arriving all the time. Pharmacy salaries and wages dropped by about one third from 2008 on-wards.

Of late there has been a bit of a recovery in pharmacy pay. However not all pharmacies have increased pharmacist pay. The bottom one third of pharmacies cannot afford to pay increased pharmacist wages.

The other pharmacies are paying increased wages and salaries.

Currently a new Irish graduate pharmacist can expect around €45K for the first year. This will probably increase by 2 to 3K a year during later years.

A supervising pharmacist. (3 years experience and managing the dispensary) can expect around 55K per year plus bonus. That would increase with more experience and with more responsibility.

A practicing Superintendent pharmacist can expect around 65K a year and more depending on experience and responsibility.

A practicing Superintendent pharmacist who is also the business manager for the pharmacy can expect around 90K and bonus.

These figures will not apply to the bottom one third of pharmacies.

Locum rates are much different. For emergency work at late notice (such as a funeral) some locums can get up to €50 an hour and in some cases even more.
Regular locum work is not as lucrative and can be anywhere between €30 to €40 an hour; again depending on the pharmacy.
If the HSE reduce fee payments to pharmacies in the coming year then those wages and salaries above will come down.

Firstly, as you can tell I'm trying to reconcile the fact that I'm possibly missing out on the ideal career for myself - so with that being said in terms of those salaries you mention;

Supervising pharmacist with experience: 55 k per year
Superintendent pharm (what's the difference vs supervising?): 65 k
Super pharm + business manager: 90 k +

As a means to explores concurrent yet kind of a-typical interests which don't have an industrial application (i.e. no real way to make money off them), the job role I was looking for was not a "move up the ladder" type deal, but rather technical based discipline where I could work set (not excessive) hours, put away some nice bank, and still have time outside of work to explore these areas;

Areas being neurology/nervous system, but again in a domain that has no current practical application (quantum neural activity) so, although "nervous system" sounds like it would compliment pharmacy well (which to a certain level, it would), the specific area has little current direct relevance.

It would also compliment physio - but that's what this thread is about - which career could net me better bank for the work hours I'd put in.

Looking on payscale.com etc, clearly it would have been pharmacy, but that was on average and seems as you seem to be fairly well up to spec on current salaries depending on the pharmacist position - I guess my question is - for non-supervising, kind of 4 day per week, 8 hour day assistent type pharmacist, what kind of annual salary would THAT specific subset be looking at?

No super pressure, super responsibility, management positions etc - cause again that would impede on extra-curricular interests and I can't have that.


The last bolded part is interdasting - locums get 50 euro per hour.
You say this like it's more than your supervising pharmacist would make?
(crunching #'s, 2000 per week at 40 hour weeks, okay they're up on the top shelf pay scale).

I mention these cause 50 euro is about the typical fee per session for physio's in a private clinic dealing almost exclusively I believe with musculoskeletal complaint based patients (not gonna get cardiovascular, neurological patients or orthopedics in a private clinic it would seem).
Of course in a private clinic also you can chop your own hours etc - I'm guessing a job approach pharmacists don't have the luxury of doing...?