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25-08-2018, 17:18   #106
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how come the area after tress are felled is never cleaned up, just left over branches and bits of trees everywhere.
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coillte effectively acts as a monopoly who dictates the price paid for timber so as a forester who acts on behalf of privatly owned forests I do not like it
Interesting this and surprised there aren't more questions asked about Coilltes interests in 2 of the larger mills in waterford and Clonmel.

I do often wonder which is more detrimental to our Native woodlands Agri farmers constantly pushing out and clearing land/boundaries or commercial forestry. I think the former would be happy to see Ireland as one large field which leads me to believe the grants allocated to agri farming are to high and the incentives for forestry to low.
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in terms of premiums anything from €6300 to €8250 per year with no set up cost, you'd have to let a forester walk the land

Is that commercial spruce or native deciduous woodland?
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Interesting this and surprised there aren't more questions asked about Coilltes interests in 2 of the larger mills in waterford and Clonmel.

I do often wonder which is more detrimental to our Native woodlands Agri farmers constantly pushing out and clearing land/boundaries or commercial forestry. I think the former would be happy to see Ireland as one large field which leads me to believe the grants allocated to agri farming are to high and the incentives for forestry to low.



You make an important point. I have farmer neighbours uproot miles of ancient mixed-species hedgerow every year, throughout the year regardless of rules on species support. This more natural network is being replaced by a less-effective artificial plantation system which is far less effective and frankly ugly.
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Is that commercial spruce or native deciduous woodland?
The lower figure is conifers and the higher figure is native woodland

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You make an important point. I have farmer neighbours uproot miles of ancient mixed-species hedgerow every year, throughout the year regardless of rules on species support. This more natural network is being replaced by a less-effective artificial plantation system which is far less effective and frankly ugly.
you technically need a felling licence to take these out and I would imagine it is illegal
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this is the last day of the AMA so I'd like to thank everyone who contributed to the thread there were some interesting questions and points made and I think we all learned a little from each other and spread the word about forestry further than it generally would on this site

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Have ya a number for a lad selling logs around Kildare?

go to the forestry forum and you'll get a few lads there
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Fair play for taking the time.
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The lower figure is conifers and the higher figure is native woodland



you technically need a felling licence to take these out and I would imagine it is illegal

Yes it is illegal. However there appears to be no enforcement of the law.

Thank you for your patient comprehensive responses. It has been interesting and informative - much food for thought.
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Hi,

Are you aware of the Save Leitrim group, and would you have a view of their experience of forestry?

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I have heard of them and to be honest they don't seem to have a coherent direction as to what they want to achieve, sometimes they push for a stop to afforestation then other times they claim they want more native woodlands planted

they are looking to save leitrim (jobs ect) despite the fact that in reality forestry provides a lot of the jobs in the agricultural sector as I explained earlier in the thread based on the latest census data

with the vibe I get from them they should be renamed "the Bull McCabe group"

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Thanks so much for taking the time to do this, Forestry Manager I hope everyone enjoyed it, closing it up now.

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