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Phoenix Park tunnel: 4 trains per hour from 2016

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  • #1442
    end of the road
    Registered Users Posts: 28,984 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    Sam Russell wrote: »
    Well, I think it would be full time. I was thinking that some direct services might be added or substituted during peak times - like direct to Bray for two or three departures in AM and Bray to Howth in PM.

    Probably not feasible.

    fair enough.

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



  • #1443
    patrickbrophy18
    Registered Users Posts: 1,303 ✭✭✭patrickbrophy18


    goingnowhere wrote: »
    There is no reference to a Howth - Howth Jnc shuttle in the draft timetable.


    What draft timetable and where can I see it?


  • #1444
    thomasj
    Registered Users Posts: 4,785 ✭✭✭thomasj


    patrickbrophy18 wrote:
    What draft timetable and where can I see it?

    I'd say it's fairly obsolete now, given the timetable didn't include the plans for Maynooth and PPT services


  • #1445
    marno21
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,344 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    OPW seem to be proposing an underground station near Dublin Zoo

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/environment/funicular-and-driverless-shuttle-in-proposed-phoenix-park-revamp-1.3869557


  • #1446
    XPS_Zero
    Registered Users Posts: 910 ✭✭✭XPS_Zero


    If it goes like the other plans heres what will happen:


    1. Announced, lots of glossy pics and leaflets
    2. Objections for 15 years
    3. Canceled

    4. Redesigned
    5. Announced, lots of glossy pics like it's the first time, lots of artists sketches like it's the first time
    6. Objections for 5 more years
    7. cANCELED
    8. Redes.....zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz


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  • #1447
    Lord Glentoran
    Closed Accounts Posts: 876 ✭✭✭Lord Glentoran


    XPS_Zero wrote: »
    If it goes like the other plans heres what will happen:


    1. Announced, lots of glossy pics and leaflets
    2. Objections for 15 years
    3. Canceled

    4. Redesigned
    5. Announced, lots of glossy pics like it's the first time, lots of artists sketches like it's the first time
    6. Objections for 5 more years
    7. cANCELED
    8. Redes.....zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

    “Won’t someone think of the poor penguins”


  • #1448
    Markcheese
    Registered Users Posts: 8,428 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    You'd hope, since its a single station, on public land that it shouldn't get stalled to badly..
    There will be objections though...

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



  • #1449
    Lord Glentoran
    Closed Accounts Posts: 876 ✭✭✭Lord Glentoran


    Markcheese wrote: »
    You'd hope, since its a single station, on public land that it shouldn't get stalled to badly..
    There will be objections though...

    There will be a complete redesign proposed of the Phoenix Park Tunnel, and a claim that this will be cheaper and quicker than the detailed costed and designed version ready to go.

    Then someone will say “Won’t you think of the penguins”. Again.

    Guaranteed.

    :rolleyes:


  • #1450
    Markcheese
    Registered Users Posts: 8,428 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    If you were ball parking, how much should a single station cost (assuming they go for basic, not an architectural statement,)

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



  • #1451
    cgcsb
    Registered Users Posts: 9,272 ✭✭✭cgcsb


    A station just east of the park would be brill for me, about half way between the proposed Heuston West and Cabra DART stations. Much better access to the Northern Suburbs and the airport.


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  • #1452
    XPS_Zero
    Registered Users Posts: 910 ✭✭✭XPS_Zero


    Lord Glentoran wrote: »
    “Won’t someone think of the poor penguins”


    I think it's some kind of endangered snail they are usually worried about


    This is too good an idea, I'm sure the first time election candidates and every single council candidate will be out any minute now to object that the track does not run a spur out to Swords to collect pensioners from their front door



    Most of the current crop don't seem to be able to open their mouth without pandering.


  • #1453
    thomasj
    Registered Users Posts: 4,785 ✭✭✭thomasj


    Interesting to see if the journey planner is correct , last PPT service to serve drumcondra will be around 9pm friday night (spice girls will be on that night.) They will run from Connolly straight through the tunnel

    Maynooth line services will serve drumcondra as normal on the night.


  • #1454
    Jamie2k9
    Registered Users Posts: 10,667 ✭✭✭✭Jamie2k9


    thomasj wrote: »
    Interesting to see if the journey planner is correct , last PPT service to serve drumcondra will be around 9pm friday night (spice girls will be on that night.) They will run from Connolly straight through the tunnel

    Maynooth line services will serve drumcondra as normal on the night.

    It is correct. I assume its for crowd control with extra Maynooth operating.


  • #1455
    Paddico
    Registered Users Posts: 1,019 ✭✭✭Paddico


    Are their any plans the increase the no of trains per hour.


    I also see the mention of a station in the Phoenix Park. Pie in the sky really but any update on a station at Heuston, Heuston West I believe?



  • #1456
    LXFlyer
    Registered Users Posts: 17,542 ✭✭✭✭LXFlyer


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118467583#Comment_118467583

    Well the medium-term project is DART+ South West.

    Details here: https://www.dartplus.ie/en-ie/projects/dart-south-west

    It should move to the railway order application being made to ABP later this year.



  • #1457
    sheff the ref
    Registered Users Posts: 617 ✭✭✭sheff the ref


    Can anyone explain why the Commuter Trains from the Dublin Cork line only go to Heuston at Weekends and do not use the Phoenix Park Tunnel?

    Surely with matches in Croke Park it would make sense to have a Park and Ride commuter service to Drumcondra from places like Sallins & Naas etc.



  • #1458
    LXFlyer
    Registered Users Posts: 17,542 ✭✭✭✭LXFlyer


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119250973#Comment_119250973

    Insufficient drivers to run the additional services at weekends.

    That should be addressed as more drivers pass out.



  • #1459
    sheff the ref
    Registered Users Posts: 617 ✭✭✭sheff the ref



    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119250981#Comment_119250981

    Thanks. It would be a welcome addition to the range of weekend commuter services



  • #1460
    petronius
    Registered Users Posts: 849 ✭✭✭petronius



    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119250973#Comment_119250973

    In the past there were special trains to Drumcondra for Hurling and Football matches at Croke Park from the south using the phoenix park tunnel - they should be in place for big match days and garth brooks concerts;) they seemed to be able to do it 100 year ago but not now.

    Maybe even the Kerry team could use it avoid the high hotel charges;)



  • #1461
    AngryLips
    Registered Users Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭AngryLips


    Gotta laugh at this thread ...still waiting for those "4 trains per hour". The promise versus the reality of PPT is what gives me pause for concern on future rail projects like Dart Plus.



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  • #1462
    LXFlyer
    Registered Users Posts: 17,542 ✭✭✭✭LXFlyer


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119254656#Comment_119254656

    If you read the original article it said four trains per hour at peak times.

    That was delivered.



  • #1463
    Ronald Binge Redux
    Registered Users Posts: 230 ✭✭Ronald Binge Redux


    ah - a “get out of jail free” card that. Peak times. Are new drivers employed at peak times only? The GDA is clearly a long way from having proper turn up and go suburban rail services *on its existing lines* - never mind any new rail and metro services that will continue to be kicked thirty years down the track for whatever excuse is deemed worth making at any time.



  • #1464
    LXFlyer
    Registered Users Posts: 17,542 ✭✭✭✭LXFlyer


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119266688#Comment_119266688

    But that was what was in the article - the paper made the headline not Irish Rail.

    At the time there were insufficient drivers for anything more than the peak services.

    As more new drivers pass out, the services are increasing. They are completely constrained by the number of drivers, and not all of the new recruits have stayed either.



  • #1465
    TheWonderLlama
    Registered Users Posts: 588 ✭✭✭TheWonderLlama


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/110017158#Comment_110017158

    but what if the lions dig into the tunnel, Joe?



  • #1466
    Paddico
    Registered Users Posts: 1,019 ✭✭✭Paddico


    Any mention of when work on Heuston West Station is going to commence?



  • #1467
    p_haugh
    Registered Users Posts: 1,117 ✭✭✭p_haugh


    It's part of the Dart+ South West Railway Order, so whenever that gets approved and a contractor is appointed, construction can start. And even then it may not be one of the initial phases to be worked on.



  • #1468
    Citizen Six
    Registered Users Posts: 2,232 ✭✭✭Citizen Six


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120574823#Comment_120574823

    Preparatory works started a couple months ago. Slow process though, I'd imagine.



  • #1469
    NewbridgeIR
    Registered Users Posts: 3,712 ✭✭✭NewbridgeIR


    Is there any issue if I buy a return ticket from Newbridge to Dublin City Centre (alighting at Heuston & then getting the Luas) but come back via Pearse on a Phoenix Park Tunnel service?

    Return ticket is same price for Newbridge to Dublin City Centre and Newbridge to Dublin Pearse



  • #1470
    LXFlyer
    Registered Users Posts: 17,542 ✭✭✭✭LXFlyer


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120729225#Comment_120729225

    No - both are valid routes.



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  • #1471
    kc56
    Registered Users Posts: 431 ✭✭kc56


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120729288#Comment_120729288

    the City Centre ticket also includes the 145 bus as far as the canal at Leeson St. Rail to Grand Canal Dock, Luas to Mayor St.



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